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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.25 15:24:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month
You're already been told all the answers to your questions. But I'll give you my experience.
When I first started playing I quit after a month, came back 2 years later and became hooked.
Eve is not meant to be played alone, especially as a noob. To do so is the most boring activity you could ever hope to pay for the privilege.
Being a noob is tough. You don't know squat and you can't afford sht. With mining, it's an activity that will progressively allow you to afford your next mining ship but little else. And it completely takes your skillset into a singular direction that, unless you want to be a miner, will not serve you in any way to experience the other facets of the game. Unless your intent on being only a miner, save that for an alt.
You should get into missioning. Not only will this develop your skillset to also get into PVP, it pays more than mining and will develop your skills for higher income ratting which is by far one of the more lucrative activities in the game without having to get into industry. Not that industry doesn't pay well....it does...it's just not exciting unless you're the accountant type.
I say this from experience. I mined right until I could fly a retriever. Then a friend got me into missioning and pvp. I've never mined again and won't.
I also highly recommend joining a corp with more experienced members from whom you can learn.
Oh and um....Eve has tutorials? HTFU!...for the children! |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.25 15:27:00 -
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Crying (also called sobbing, weeping, wailing, whimpering, bawling, or blubbering) is the shedding of tears in response to an emotional state in humans. The act of crying has been defined as "a complex secretomotor phenomenon characterized by the shedding of tears from the lacrimal apparatus, without any irritation of the ocular structures". A related medical term is lacrimation, which also refers to non-emotional shedding of tears.
A neuronal connection between the lacrimal gland (tear duct) and the areas of the human brain involved with emotion has been established. Some scientists believe that only humans produce tears in response to emotional states while others disagree. Charles Darwin wrote in The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals that the keepers of Indian elephants in the London Zoo told him that their charges shed tears in sorrow.
Tears produced during emotional crying have a chemical composition which differs from other types of tears. They contain significantly greater quantities of the hormones prolactin, adrenocorticotropic hormone, Leu-enkephalin, and the elements potassium and manganese.
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bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:05:00 -
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I must say most items in Eve cost more now than a few years ago. My first abaddon was 140m (now 240m...) and the orca was 440m (was nearly 700m a few months ago) and of course, missions (the thing most noobs do first for iskies) got nerfed a bit. So yeah, Eve is kind of harder at the moment for a noob than it was 3-4 years ago (of course, frigs and cruisers got their ass buffed a lot lately, but cost much more too).
I agree Eve isn't easy when you begin the game |
Toshiro Hasegawa
The Circus Corp Nulli Tertius
13
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:57:00 -
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i just made a new toon - seeded it with isk from main account .. and am training it up
day 1 frigs + basic equipment - did a few lv 1's - no issue -- but i think thats because i knew how to use my skills, ship and equipment properly .. somethign that a new player would not .
day 2 - destroyer with almost less than basic skills and equipment - tried lv2's and i had to dock up mid fight once or twice .. very inneficient in terms of time / mission. My player skill was no match the lack of SP .. will probably have to use cruiser for lv2
day 3 my plan is to get into a cruier i cant use properly and see what lv 2 are like with it .. using a t1 frig fit .. wasted but curious to see how it goes.
day 4+ once i have all the basic lv skills to basic fit a cruiser i am going to work social, connections and negotiation skills to 4/5 and see where my standing ends up .. and then either grind lv2 in a cruiser, or start the process over with BC.
I am sure i will end up in ships i cant fly right .. but i have a deep wallet to support myself and more importantly i have player skills. I dont plan on loosing anything. I wont be going anywhere near low sec. I wont be traveling around with valuables in my cargo. I will align for warp out when things are harry in a mission. I will stay away from objects so i dont get too close and end up not being able to warp out. I dont need to get insurance - as i am my own insurance .. but if you are new .. then i would buy it.
When getting into your first maj ship upgrade . i would suggest it best to have enough for the ship + insurance +fitings + extra left over. - as well as back up ships to jump right into if somethig goes wrong.
One shojuld not go to low sec unless one is confindent that a death will not have much of an impact. (i dont go to low sec - there is nothing there i want that would make up for the shame of giving some douche a kill). Stick to highsec. Mission, loot and salvage. Sellorder the good items, quicksell the rest.
If you need a leg up then join a corp - making isk is always easier with others .. even though you have to share profits - you can get more done , more safely, more quickly in groups .. and when i comes down to it you to need to mitigate risk, and increase your isk / hour income.
Eventually after you stick with it .. you will have more than enough isk to cover lsoses and still get back to making isk.
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Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 17:08:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month
Problem with the game is that people seem to think they need lots of skills to play the game, sure skills help but it's not like games where you can reach the highest level is a fairly short amount of time. You can buy PLEX to boost your isk, but if new I would not recommend it, as you might find yourself with more isk than you can earn and hence have no reason to do anything. Don't try to rush the game to access the higher content like you would in other MMOs in this game you'll more than likely give up on the game if you do. |
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