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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2915
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Posted - 2013.06.23 23:12:00 -
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Quick Gratification.
It does not happen here. |
Mytai Gengod
Sebees
30
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Posted - 2013.06.23 23:18:00 -
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I can see how the game can cause frustration, it is based on a different time scale and approach than many other popular MMO's. You do have to be patient early on, but there are some options.
1. Obviously you mentioned trading. Instead of trying to play the .1 isk station game, haul between systems/regions. Go to lower pop areas and note pricing on different items. Then either buy and bring back to sell in your "home" region or buy from your home and take it there to sell. This is doable everyday, on any scale and a safe and reliable source.
2. But that can get boring to some. Use agent finder to find a corp of NPC agents that has levels up to 4 in your general area. Grind those until you can do level 3's. 3's don't make you rich, but they do provide enough income to get established and prepare for 4's.
3. Do some exploration. I did with close to the same skill points as you and got lucky on a couple of sites. I haven't done it since the latest patch but I understand it is easier now. Prices are reporting to drop for loot but I am betting those prices are still decent for new players.
4. Faction warfare. I have not done it (yet), but I understand you can make decent isk using cheap frigs. Also learning pvp.
5. Check markets for a certain set of items (lower end minnie ship hulls, ammo, etc.) Depending on how many you watch and how often you check you will find quick sellers regularly. Buy and sell.
6. Don't mine unless you really like it. That will burn you out quicker than anything.
7. Join a decent corp. Many will help you get on your feet.
There's a ton more. Many don't realize the options available since the game doesn't hold your hand like other MMO's.
Good luck and safe travels. |
Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
321
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Posted - 2013.06.23 23:37:00 -
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Dear newfriend
Read about Evian Drinker
You, dear newbro, just because you can't yet go head to head with everybody doesn't mean that you can't make a difference. Your little Rifter, or whatever's your T1 frigate of choice, is an asset to any fleet or gang smart enough to let you join them. You are small, fast and cheap, you can be the eyes and ears of the fleet, you can be the point of the spear, you can be the small fast tackle that pins down a ship worth billions and holds him for the big guns to show up.
But you can even make a difference alone, let me tell you about wheniaminspace. - this guy flies around nullsec, in a T1 fit Thrasher, just killing people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsrq0PxiU-8
You can do this too.
Here's a 19 day skillplan for a wheniaminspace trasher
Have fun.
Also try joining Red Vs Blue, or factional warfare or something.
As for making money... try this
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ninja_Salvaging
Or try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
670
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:08:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month
600k lp is really nothing.
You should spend more time understanding the game, and how to make isk, before you go losing ships you can't fly well.
This is the single biggest mistake in the game. People want instant pvp, but don't understand it takes time and isk to do it well. If you can't afford plex to fund your game play style, then you need to learn about isk generation first.
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:(
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:10:00 -
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Pro tip of the day, Don't put all of your eggs into lowsec. |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
300
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:12:00 -
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This dude has been complaining for a month now that he can't train Winning V. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
140
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:18:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:
Hmmm... I'll help you out.
- Buy yourself a T1 frigate.
- Training salvaging and buy salvagers.
- Go to a busy L4 mission system.
- Ask in local if anyone is running missions and not bothering to salvage.
- Fleet up with the player(s).
- Explode and die
- Rage on forums
ftfy |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
30
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Posted - 2013.06.24 00:31:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:
Hmmm... I'll help you out.
- Buy yourself a T1 frigate.
- Training salvaging and buy salvagers.
- Go to a busy L4 mission system.
- Ask in local if anyone is running missions and not bothering to salvage.
- Fleet up with the player(s).
- Start collecting loot/salvage.
- Profit.
This will earn you ISK fast...
This
Edit: In fact after a month of this you can probably even afford to start plexing your account AND if the mission runner is particularly nice, you may even have the standings you need to run level 4's on your own. |
Sir Mack Inawrex
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
0
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Posted - 2013.06.24 01:22:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:RubyPorto wrote:With 600k SP, you probably don't have the skills to fly a cruiser well.
Consider the following advice: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
You can't afford to lose cruisers, so it follows that... ?
You can put a competent frigate fit together for under 1m ISK. yeah everyone tells me that but no-one says how to make the money to recover their costs.
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.co.uk/ is a fantastic site that shares a lot of grat, easy ways to make some iskies. Check the links to other money-making blogs at the bottom of the page too, there's some great tidbits of info there.
I'm certianly not space-rich but Gevlon's advice has significantly boosted the enjoyablity of EvE for me by showing me ways of getting a decent amount of cash in relatively little time. |
Lidam
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.06.24 01:31:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month
Holy ****, the sense of entitlement coming from this post is overwhelming. If you can't achieve anything in this game, how do you explain that I'm barely 2 weeks older than you and have 1.2b from trading? I was making 40-50m a day when I was two weeks old. It's not impossible. Some other guy and I I even gave you advice on the newbie forums which was pretty extensive save for telling you exactly what to buy.
Nothing is going to come easy in this game. But if you set goals and are willing to put actual time and effort into something, then you will go far. |
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Marmaduke Hatplate
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:37:00 -
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I'm also new, about 2 weeks I think. I'be done the tutorials, the careers, the SoE epic, and now I'm basicslly pootling around doing a bit of mining here, a few dilevery/security missions there, in Frigates. I'm currently at 39mil ISK, but 30mil of that I won in the lottery in a chat channel I frequent.
I like the fact that Eve can take a while longer than 'NAO!' to achieve things. And the journey is great fun.
If you can fly Cruisers already, I suspect your Frigate skills are worse than mine (I don't have the skills for Cruisers, but I've invested that time into jury-rigging and other stuff which can improve my Frigate efficiency.
I'm coming to realise that Eve isn't made up of a level progression illustrated by size of ship - rather, as you progress in SP and ISK, you build up a fleet of ships of your own, and you ise them depending on need.
A good example happened yesterday. I was on a group mining op. loads of Retrievers, an Orca, a frieghter, and a few Ventures, mine included. We were stripping belts with the rule that if we got to a belt and there was already someone there, we'd move on - there were plenty of belts in the system, it's nice to be nice, etc.
My little vent has 25% the ore cap of a ret, and its mining lasers are slower, but because it's a much faster vessel than the 'better' mining barges, I could quickly warp to a belt and report back 'clear' or 'already occupied', saving the fleet cumbersome pointless warps snd realigns etc.
Eve's not about getting a bigger hammer. It's about collecting a full set of appropriate tools.
"Friends and fun...The only 2 really important things in EVE Online." - Crazy Dutch Guy |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
455
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:39:00 -
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What, no instant gratification? In MY EVE? 
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Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
189
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:44:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:Steve WingYip wrote:Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month This seems like a QQ I died and lost my stuff, rather than a critique of the tutorials. Yes, and there was a similar post yesterday with the guy that said you had to have all 4 and 5 levels skills to do anything in the game and that meant ccp was hamstringing him. And, also similar, that guy just kept fending off any suggestions given to him.
Confirming that we all need to skill up for 30 more years before we can start to play this game.
"You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Lost True
Paradise project
2346
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:13:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month
I've flied the Kestrel frigate for my first 2-3 months.
You wussies are getting all the stuff way too easy these days already.
And you know what? I miss my kestrel(in the old client), it was probably the most exiting time for me..
And this game is not free-to-play. So don't cry if you trying to play it for "free".
in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
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Knights Armament
Yale Socialite Club
50
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:15:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month
When you're docked in station, go to the captains quarters and look at the advertisements to purchase plex, once plex has been purchased, I recommend dropping 300-1000 dollars on plex, put the plex into your cargo hold, all of them, and fly to jita. now wait outside the station, and let people know you're selling plex in local, don't dock, because it makes trading plex more difficult.
-áAll of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement. |
Paul Otichoda
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:27:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month When you're docked in station, go to the captains quarters and look at the advertisements to purchase plex, once plex has been purchased, I recommend dropping 300-1000 dollars on plex, put the plex into your cargo hold, all of them, and fly to jita. now wait outside the station, and let people know you're selling plex in local, don't dock, because it makes trading plex more difficult.
I'm not an idiot you know, I can tell that that is stupid.
Also I don't want to scam in this game. I would prefer to have some personal integrity
Also I've ground up enough money to get a mining barge (the cheap one), however I don't have enough to get the strip miners for the ship. |
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
16
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:31:00 -
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A new corp member of ours has been playing a month and has made over 2bil.
The difference is he had people to talk too. |
Yummy Chocolate
Biohazard.
892
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:37:00 -
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EVE is fine L2P |
Paul Otichoda
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:37:00 -
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Lidam wrote:Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month Holy ****, the sense of entitlement coming from this post is overwhelming. If you can't achieve anything in this game, how do you explain that I'm barely 2 weeks older than you and have 1.2b from trading? I was making 40-50m a day when I was two weeks old. It's not impossible. Some other guy and I even gave you advice on the newbie forums which was pretty extensive save for telling you exactly what to buy (even there if you simply asked I could have given you a few tips). Nothing is going to come easy in this game. But if you set goals and are willing to put actual time and effort into something, then you will go far.
Heres my general experience in trading
Spend 3m on a buy order for minerals in a system full of asteroids, take it to Jita believing I can sell it for 40 after paying 12, find I was reading the selling section by mistake. Sell the stuff to a buyers at about 13 or so, and make about 100000 profit for half and hours work. Then give up and go back to mining. |
Tiber Ibis
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:44:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:Lidam wrote:Paul Otichoda wrote:They give the impression that you can actually achieve something in this game
I've finished the tutorials, carrer and sisters of eve arc with 600,000 SP yet I find myself unable to gain enough ISK to do anything. After losing a few ships in low sec I find myself unable to even aford a cruiser and am having to grind badly paying level 2 missions and mining 6 hours a day and yet barely achieving anything. Trading seems to have been designed for (and played by) actual workers in the stock market.
Mining pays about 1m isk an hour and tier 2 missions about the same. Yet a fully ensured and equibed cruiser is going to cost up to 15m.
Really the only way to achieve anything in this game seems just to buy and sell PLEX. And I'm not paying -ú15+ just to able to do things in game.
No wonder most people only play this game for a month Holy ****, the sense of entitlement coming from this post is overwhelming. If you can't achieve anything in this game, how do you explain that I'm barely 2 weeks older than you and have 1.2b from trading? I was making 40-50m a day when I was two weeks old. It's not impossible. Some other guy and I even gave you advice on the newbie forums which was pretty extensive save for telling you exactly what to buy (even there if you simply asked I could have given you a few tips). Nothing is going to come easy in this game. But if you set goals and are willing to put actual time and effort into something, then you will go far. Heres my general experience in trading Spend 3m on a buy order for minerals in a system full of asteroids, take it to Jita believing I can sell it for 40 after paying 12, find I was reading the selling section by mistake. Sell the stuff to a buyers at about 13 or so, and make about 100000 profit for half and hours work. Then give up and go back to mining.
That is because you aren't too smart. This is evident from your posting. There are plenty of suggestions in this thread for you, but you continue to ignore them and whinge. My personal advice for you would be world of warcraft. |
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Logical Chaos
Justmore
9
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:45:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:RubyPorto wrote:With 600k SP, you probably don't have the skills to fly a cruiser well.
Consider the following advice: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
You can't afford to lose cruisers, so it follows that... ?
You can put a competent frigate fit together for under 1m ISK. yeah everyone tells me that but no-one says how to make the money to recover their costs.
In the beginning it's hard. But when you get your first kill and loot you sell some juicy mods!
By the way: join a corp that supports you. If you want to go into PvP, go do that (Loyalty Point rewards there are easily claimed by a frigate and can pay for everything a new player wants).
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Then explain how I saw someone with a battleship after 10 days or another with a 30m mining barge after 16 days?
Just because they can sit in it does not mean they can fly it well...
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
158
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:53:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:RubyPorto wrote:With 600k SP, you probably don't have the skills to fly a cruiser well.
Consider the following advice: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
You can't afford to lose cruisers, so it follows that... ?
You can put a competent frigate fit together for under 1m ISK. yeah everyone tells me that but no-one says how to make the money to recover their costs.
Until You can run level 4 missions, Missions ain't worth your time. Unfortunately You'll need to run some missions at least to get Your standings up high enough to run level 4 missions.
So, somewere in the (possibly) near future You'll be at a point were You feel You'll have to vomit quite violently If You do so much as just opening the the mission agents dialogue window. :)
You could try exploration sites, hacking and relic sites, preferably. Or You go and hook up with some mission runner corp, they'll let You tag along in their L4 missions so You can get standings and iskies at a reasonable rate. And if they don't they're a bunch of jackasses, go look for another mission runner corp.
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
282
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:06:00 -
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EVE is not a good game for lone wolves. Although new players do get a lot more stuff these days.
If you see people that are around for 10 days and fly a battleship, yes, they probably PLEXed it.
At least in my corp though we do provide some ships to new players once they are able to really fly them. The logic is simple:
Why wait for them to get effective when all that stands between them and effectiveness is a bunch of ISK?
It'll take a little time, but you'll see then that is really is not hard to make ISK. And that you can have an impact.
But don't fool yourself, EVE is one of the last MMOs where playing with others will make a huge difference.
Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com
My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:22:00 -
[54] - Quote
its pretty easy to progress into a cruiser to do some more difficult missions for more cash, or just try doing some random stuff, i don't know how the tutorial gives a wrong impression as it gave me the right impression for me. Why not mine a little bit, what I did is train up for a retriever (won't need more training really) so u can get your money up very easy while multi tasking.. or salvage stuff, in the mean time why not learn how to explore and get better at scanning as well? LIterally so many things to try out.. go scan out a WH and see how long you can survive.. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
955
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:26:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:Mr. Orange wrote:
Hmmm... I'll help you out.
- Buy yourself a T1 frigate.
- Training salvaging and buy salvagers.
- Go to a busy L4 mission system.
- Ask in local if anyone is running missions and not bothering to salvage.
- Fleet up with the player(s).
- Explode and die
- Rage on forums
ftfy
fleeting up stopped being dangerous (had to do with the way at war flagging was inherited for gang members) before I started playing EVE back in 2008.
If anyone tells you that joining fleets can allow fleet members to shoot you he is using horrendously outdated information. |
Knights Armament
Yale Socialite Club
52
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:28:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u08dQSiT8f4&feature=youtu.be
Check out this eve online expansion, I feel it gives the right impression of the game.
-áAll of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement. |
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
226
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:38:00 -
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If you aren't the high-moraled type, try to probe down other peoples missions and steal their loot and salvage. That is - for a new player - good income, easily in the range of 15-30 M isk/hour. It doesn't need much in SP, just Salvage and basic astrometrics skills. Decent align time is also nice.
Trading is more lucrative (it is the way i make money), but maybe it isn't for you.
Faction warfare should be good money for a new player. Earn LP in the rookie and small complexes (flying a cheap T1 frigate fit), cash in big time in the LP store. I hope you aren't scared of lowsec. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
10281
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:43:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:RubyPorto wrote:With 600k SP, you probably don't have the skills to fly a cruiser well.
Consider the following advice: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
You can't afford to lose cruisers, so it follows that... ?
You can put a competent frigate fit together for under 1m ISK. yeah everyone tells me that but no-one says how to make the money to recover their costs.
I guess what he means is that you shouldn't be looking at cruisers yet. Stick to flying Frigates and Destroyers while your support skills (ie: electronics, engineering and mechanics Skills) improve and you have trained up your cruiser skill to 4. Trust me when I say that you still have a lot to learn about small ships, and I don't mean your character skills.
1.5M SP is probably a good threshold to start flying a cruiser, depending on exactly which kind you want.
What ships and weapons are you training in at the moment?
1 Kings 12:11
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Paul Otichoda
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:47:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Paul Otichoda wrote:RubyPorto wrote:With 600k SP, you probably don't have the skills to fly a cruiser well.
Consider the following advice: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
You can't afford to lose cruisers, so it follows that... ?
You can put a competent frigate fit together for under 1m ISK. yeah everyone tells me that but no-one says how to make the money to recover their costs. I guess what he means is that you shouldn't be looking at cruisers yet. Stick to flying Frigates and Destroyers while your support skills (ie: electronics, engineering and mechanics Skills) improve and you have trained up your cruiser skill to 4. Trust me when I say that you still have a lot to learn about small ships, and I don't mean your character skills. 1.5M SP is probably a good threshold to start flying a cruiser, depending on exactly which kind you want. What ships and weapons are you training in at the moment?
Training for mining barges (got the small one but can't afford the strip miners) and now I'm training salavaging. Actually is seems to be working. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
The Retirement Club
15
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:53:00 -
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Confirming that it is impossible to move to nullsec and engage in huge fleet battles and small gang warfare within the first few months of playing.
http://401k.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1600685
Just a hint though. mining and missions are a fairly poor way of making isk. People are not flooding you with specific isk making methods as more competition would lower their income. The tutorials are a guide to the various toys available in the sandbox. They are not a guide on how to use those tools.
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