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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 10:52:00 -
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People - another suggestion from the COST Group (me)
I move that we help the ganker improve his Eve experience and help him on way to his obvious path. This will be done by CONCORD when they show up to the gank to administer justice.
When the sec status of the ganker gets below -5, they should be ported to the nearest area where they can start to obtain the tags required to repair their sec status - and not be able to enter any high sec area (re-porting back to original lo-sec location ) until that sec status is raised. I envisage that the re-porting will not cause the items in the ship or pod to be lost.
I must add that this will help them by giving them the incentive and increase their fun by being the object of gankers wanting to get the tags as well.
To those forums trolls - no, I have not been a victim of a gank or the ganker. I suggest conditions to situations.
Discuss, +1 and flame as necessary and if this is in the wrong place, pls feel free to move.
Thx
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:31:00 -
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Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument
For the ganker:
- this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself
Against
- he will not be present to point out people's poor ship fits
he will not be allowed to harness high sec tears
he will not have any high sec epeen because in high sec no one will see him - he will be in lo-sec
For CCP
- this will help gameplay for those particular type of players, help fulfil the requirement to get out of high sec into Losec and null sec
purchase of more accounts
less feedback on the forms to deal with both for the ganker and gankee
And thank you Jake for your very constructive post - not
As always - constructive feedback is encouraged - but not expected
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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:42:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote: +1
This idea is great. Once the "teleport" happens and the player can no longer access hisec, it takes one loss to be reduced to using nothing but a Reaper - but this will help the lo-sec hub economy as the person will have to buy a ship and fit it . As the Reaper is not powerful enough to kill the lowest level Clone rat, leaving the player in limbo he will have to spend some of his insurance money to buy and fit out a good ship suitable for the job. This promotes basic gameplay designs. Anything controlling traffic that is not player generated is a bad idea but this idea is one of the best.
Why, thanks for your support Ultramar - most unexpected
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:50:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Klandi wrote:Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument For the ganker:
- this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself
You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is.
I don't see a ganker doing what he does as a problem - I see it as a missed opportunity for the ganker to experience a life he is obviously hankering for. For me he is calling out for more obstacles to be put in his path so the tears he harvests are worth his time and dedication to his trade. Rather than prey on useless hi-sec pubbies that serve nothing but an inconvenience to his game, he can strike out for a more rewarding Eve experience
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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:58:00 -
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See you have taking out of context to lvl5 - good work
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:03:00 -
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Thanks for that Thorn - you need to read the next part of the thread to get your question answered.
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:04:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:How original.
OP, does it bother you yet that you forgot to capitalize "stella" in your corp name?
no
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:39:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:What problem does your proposal solve? It removes the gankers from the OPs path.
You know Baltec - that thought hadn't crossed my mind as I don't get out much.
Thx for the feedback
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:41:00 -
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NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:Excellent idea. In order to make this a success CCP also needs to add a minigame that needs to be completed every mining cycle or the mining ship gets transported to a lowsec system as well. In addition the auto pilot should have a random chance of sending you through the wrong gate (including lowsec gates). I envision that the auto pilot error is low during day time, but increases at night, and you can decrease the chance of an error by training the new navigation skill "Drunk Piloting".
Now that name doesn't suit - you ARE a pretty smart cookie :)
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:29:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Klandi wrote:... .....and not be able to enter any high sec area...(-5.0 sec status players) Nah, i like to shoot reds. let them in
See this is where it starts to get more interesting
If you go out to lo-sec to shoot them it will help CCPs concept of populating lo-sec, establishing lo-sec hub points and so will be a more target rich environment!!
Good move I say :)
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:42:00 -
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But that is definitely against games rules as a NPC is not allowed to pop a pod.
Nope - send them out to lo-sec repair the mistake is a good alternative to no consequence imo
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:56:00 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:
I have not even managed to move beyond this post because your series of stacked assumptions based off of your personal opinion and their complete disregard for fact, reality, and the ignorance of choices others make has left me deeply amused.
LOL
You caught me out - guilty as charged. I am glad it amused you so what I would now ask is to put up some facts based on YOUR perspective that are for and against.
C'mon - you know you want to ...
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 15:28:00 -
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Don't understand how it does that- pls explain
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:00:00 -
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Great post - love the sentiment. Feel free to mess with my game as much as you want. Just one word
Accountability
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:03:00 -
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Milan Nantucket wrote:I don't like it.
I make my isk from the gankers and the gankees. Who do you think supplies the dessies and the barges. Its a win-win for me. Leave it alone.
As do I, but this does highlight the Jita problem (de-centralizing empire trade hubs) and making people responsible for their actions.
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:48:00 -
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Being perfectly serious - it is the impunity the a -10 has in a system that irks me slightly. I am a great fan of being responsible for your actions and this capability refutes that.
To compare it to something you will understand - its like occupying Fountain and having all the wealth of the moons go to the Goons ....
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:39:00 -
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Winter Archipelago
I likened the situation I see with the situation you are currently in to help you realize where I am coming from. But it seems you read what you want to read and only see what you want to see. But I will give it one more go.
I like a responsible attitude and if you can't be responsible then there are consequences. Allowing people that have reached -10 into a station in high sec is a breach of those consequences. They can activate a clone and stay in high sec - without consequence except with the possibly of someone giving a sh*t and shooting at them.
Now if CCP decided that -10 WAS an outlaw and discharged them from hi-sec, I would feel that the consequences suited the crime, hence my suggestion - I proposed this idea because I basically feel that people that gank are bullies and think they should not benefit from being so. To put them into a situation where they had to come to terms with their consequences, they might change.
Now about your situation.
I have read the blogs. The consensus of opinion is that Goons WILL NOT take Fountain from you but WILL take the moons off you.
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:47:00 -
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Fair play Jonah but I do not believe this does impact the situation as much as you think it would. At this time there is a cap on Jita pretty much constantly most days and that is because the only place that people will congregate to buy,sell and scam is Jita. If a situation was provided that forced the requirement into low-sec, then you would have to sell your wares there - taking the pressure off that node.
CCP have long stated that they want more people to get out into lo and null sec. The two reasons why that doesn't happen is the risk adverse nature of some (and only some) people and the trade hubs in high sec.
I build, trade and buy in hi-sec as do you - but the situation is not ideal for doing that as long as there is a bottleneck in the system called hi-sec trade hubs.
Implementation of a plan like this would do three things:
1. Provide a place for the gankers to go with an incentive to earn their way back (and I guarantee the ganking would not stop)
2. Increase the trade in lo-sec and NPC null sec stations to meet those requirements
3. Depopulate hi-sec as more trade would be de-centralised.
Now as the the gankers being bullies etc - we will each have an opinion that should not come into the equation. What I am doing here is to increase the possibility of trade in other areas. Think big picture
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Klandi
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Posted - 2013.06.25 22:48:00 -
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Awww poor GC ... don't worry, I got some people I know that would hunt ur ass to extinction and back
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