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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
123
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Posted - 2013.06.25 10:52:00 -
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People - another suggestion from the COST Group (me)
I move that we help the ganker improve his Eve experience and help him on way to his obvious path. This will be done by CONCORD when they show up to the gank to administer justice.
When the sec status of the ganker gets below -5, they should be ported to the nearest area where they can start to obtain the tags required to repair their sec status - and not be able to enter any high sec area (re-porting back to original lo-sec location ) until that sec status is raised. I envisage that the re-porting will not cause the items in the ship or pod to be lost.
I must add that this will help them by giving them the incentive and increase their fun by being the object of gankers wanting to get the tags as well.
To those forums trolls - no, I have not been a victim of a gank or the ganker. I suggest conditions to situations.
Discuss, +1 and flame as necessary and if this is in the wrong place, pls feel free to move.
Thx
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
0Lona 0ltor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2013.06.25 10:55:00 -
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Naw my ganking alt works fine at -10 standing, I don't really feel the need to collect these tags. |
Jumfat Kohlah
Dark Sacred Night
5
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Posted - 2013.06.25 10:58:00 -
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LOL - what a great idea
Could also stop all the whiners on GD that complain about being ganked
+1 |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
163
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:10:00 -
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What problem does your proposal solve?
I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15215
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:11:00 -
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Why?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
baltec1
Bat Country
7023
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:13:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:What problem does your proposal solve?
It removes the gankers from the OPs path. |
BURRITO CHUNKS
25 TA LIFE
2
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:14:00 -
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Somehow, I don't believe any of us are female. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2995
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:21:00 -
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Unlike other troll threads about ganking on GD, this appears to have been carefully thought out.
Oh wait... |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:31:00 -
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Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument
For the ganker:
- this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself
Against
- he will not be present to point out people's poor ship fits
he will not be allowed to harness high sec tears
he will not have any high sec epeen because in high sec no one will see him - he will be in lo-sec
For CCP
- this will help gameplay for those particular type of players, help fulfil the requirement to get out of high sec into Losec and null sec
purchase of more accounts
less feedback on the forms to deal with both for the ganker and gankee
And thank you Jake for your very constructive post - not
As always - constructive feedback is encouraged - but not expected
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
537
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:35:00 -
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-1
This idea is terrible. Once the "teleport" happens and the player can no longer access hisec, it takes one loss to be reduced to using nothing but a Reaper. The Reaper is not powerfull enough to kill the lowest level Clone rat, leaving the player in limbo. This goes against very basic gameplay designs. Anything controlling traffic that is not player generated is a bad idea. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2210
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:41:00 -
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How original.
OP, does it bother you yet that you forgot to capitalize "stella" in your corp name?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:42:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote: +1
This idea is great. Once the "teleport" happens and the player can no longer access hisec, it takes one loss to be reduced to using nothing but a Reaper - but this will help the lo-sec hub economy as the person will have to buy a ship and fit it . As the Reaper is not powerful enough to kill the lowest level Clone rat, leaving the player in limbo he will have to spend some of his insurance money to buy and fit out a good ship suitable for the job. This promotes basic gameplay designs. Anything controlling traffic that is not player generated is a bad idea but this idea is one of the best.
Why, thanks for your support Ultramar - most unexpected
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
163
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:42:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument For the ganker:
- this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself
How do you come to the conclusion that the ganker wants to learn about low-sec? You see, the ganker goes through all the trouble to help him survive in high-sec (Alt to bring ships in and scout, using only fast aligning ships to avoid faction police etc), why would you want to take that away from him? Surely if he wanted to go to low- or null-sec he would already be there.
A ganker also is not a pirate or wants to be one. Pirates hunt for profit, gankers hunt for tears.
It just seems to me you want to take away a playstyle that has existed for 10 years for no reason at all - You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is.
I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:50:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Klandi wrote:Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument For the ganker:
- this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself
You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is.
I don't see a ganker doing what he does as a problem - I see it as a missed opportunity for the ganker to experience a life he is obviously hankering for. For me he is calling out for more obstacles to be put in his path so the tears he harvests are worth his time and dedication to his trade. Rather than prey on useless hi-sec pubbies that serve nothing but an inconvenience to his game, he can strike out for a more rewarding Eve experience
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
163
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:54:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is. I don't see a ganker doing what he does as a problem
I agree, so there is no change needed. Next please.
I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:58:00 -
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See you have taking out of context to lvl5 - good work
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
1204
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:59:00 -
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Seconded.
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse
CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:03:00 -
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Thanks for that Thorn - you need to read the next part of the thread to get your question answered.
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:04:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:How original.
OP, does it bother you yet that you forgot to capitalize "stella" in your corp name?
no
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
NotTheSmartestCookie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
3
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:37:00 -
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Excellent idea. In order to make this a success CCP also needs to add a minigame that needs to be completed every mining cycle or the mining ship gets transported to a lowsec system as well. In addition the auto pilot should have a random chance of sending you through the wrong gate (including lowsec gates). I envision that the auto pilot error is low during day time, but increases at night, and you can decrease the chance of an error by training the new navigation skill "Drunk Piloting". |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:39:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:What problem does your proposal solve? It removes the gankers from the OPs path.
You know Baltec - that thought hadn't crossed my mind as I don't get out much.
Thx for the feedback
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:41:00 -
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NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:Excellent idea. In order to make this a success CCP also needs to add a minigame that needs to be completed every mining cycle or the mining ship gets transported to a lowsec system as well. In addition the auto pilot should have a random chance of sending you through the wrong gate (including lowsec gates). I envision that the auto pilot error is low during day time, but increases at night, and you can decrease the chance of an error by training the new navigation skill "Drunk Piloting".
Now that name doesn't suit - you ARE a pretty smart cookie :)
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Grunanca
Sickology
10
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:53:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Klandi wrote:Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument For the ganker:
- this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself
How do you come to the conclusion that the ganker wants to learn about low-sec? You see, the ganker goes through all the trouble to help him survive in high-sec (Alt to bring ships in and scout, using only fast aligning ships to avoid faction police etc), why would you want to take that away from him? Surely if he wanted to go to low- or null-sec he would already be there. A ganker also is not a pirate or wants to be one. Pirates hunt for profit, gankers hunt for tears.It just seems to me you want to take away a playstyle that has existed for 10 years for no reason at all - You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is.
Actually its the other way around.. Pirates hunt in low sec for fights and tears. When they are low on isk, they go gank in high sec. having done both a lot I can definately say that I have made way more ganking stuff in high sec (1-2 months total) compared to looting my targets in loe sec (4-5 years). You only need patience to get a kill dropping billions in loot for you ganking. In low sec you mainly loot a max of 100 mil per kill, which you have to split with your fleet anyway. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
537
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:00:00 -
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Klandi wrote:... .....and not be able to enter any high sec area...(-5.0 sec status players)
Nah, i like to shoot reds. let them in
GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:29:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Klandi wrote:... .....and not be able to enter any high sec area...(-5.0 sec status players) Nah, i like to shoot reds. let them in
See this is where it starts to get more interesting
If you go out to lo-sec to shoot them it will help CCPs concept of populating lo-sec, establishing lo-sec hub points and so will be a more target rich environment!!
Good move I say :)
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
131
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:35:00 -
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-10 concord should pop you. Prevent -10 from highsec smartie ganking but not any other activities. The smartie ganking is stupid. I can sit my -10 in Jita and shop pod kill people all day without consequence. |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
124
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:42:00 -
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But that is definitely against games rules as a NPC is not allowed to pop a pod.
Nope - send them out to lo-sec repair the mistake is a good alternative to no consequence imo
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
308
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:44:00 -
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I'm not sure what all that mumbo jumbo is about but no one needs your help. Maybe try convincing people to not pack 3bil worth of crap into a paper airplane and ghost ride it while watching reruns on Hulu. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
1471
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:44:00 -
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Posting in stealth butthurt thread.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
131
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:45:00 -
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Klandi wrote:But that is definitely against games rules as a NPC is not allowed to pop a pod.
Nope - send them out to lo-sec repair the mistake is a good alternative to no consequence imo
Nope I mean instaspawn scram their ships. Faction is too slow to stop them with insta-warp bms
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