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Aelius
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:16:00 -
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In the moment i'm a VERY hangry EVE costumer 
I'm not going to discuss GM talks or anything but lets just say i just lost a 4Bil ship to CTD NPCing. You figure out the rest.
Who is the owner of the game CCP or the GM's team? Why can't GM's use common sense even if their laking tools show nothing?! Isn't time that CCP changes his policy when problem happen outside PVP. I feel that the only afected person in this matter is me.
Can please GM's have better tools to foundament their decisions upon?
I fully undertand and compreend the GM's, because they have rules to follow and prolly crapy tools too. What i can't understand is how and why CCP lets a 2 and an half paying costumer on the verge of quiting the game by enforcing such hard "loss against NPC" policy.
To whom shall i write to show my great unsactifation? Someone that knows something about getting costumers happy. Someone on CCP's comercial costumer area.
For me EVE is the best game i've played in my entire life, i may love the game but i'm also entitled to feel unrespected as a costumer, and if i feel that i can and i will do the thing that my conscience tell me too.
Others may or already have made that decision.
Please do not rant this thread.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:21:00 -
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hangry?.
d solo.
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AdriaLima
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:22:00 -
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If you quit can i have your stuff? 
Seriously though it must be really hard taking a loss like that.
I dunno to whom you could write cause all you got is ccp and gm's ..and i think thats bout it. 
You're right though that things like loss due to lag isnt confirmed or acknowleged which is a bit lame.
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Zac Paris
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:22:00 -
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 Originally by: darth solo
hangry?.
d solo.
I'm guessing it's a cross between really hungry and being angry about it.
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Callisto Augustus
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:23:00 -
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Hangry? Maybe you should eat a sammich...
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madaluap
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 27/11/2005 15:23:47
hangry is that the new 1337?
**** happens
edit+WAIT now i know, hangry is kinda chinese-english, like harro :D
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:24:00 -
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I'd suggest writing a very Blunt but honest account to a games magazine...
There always looking for story's, good or bad, and it'll grab CCP by the short and curlies when someone brings it to their attention they are receiving bad publicity. You wont get anything useful from petitioning it to higher authorities unless you threaten slightly.
If you've ever had problems with anyone providing a half-arsed service, you should know this already.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:31:00 -
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Hey, winnig from npc's is way too easy as it is, random losses that cant be reimbursed at least keep it somewhat exiting
Nah j/k, sorry bout your loss, I hope you can get up on your feet again without too much trouble...
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Aelius
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:40:00 -
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Ok my english sucks... does that make less right?!
I don't want to threat CCP or anyone about anything, i'm just trying to make EVE a better game. This is not your regular "i quit" thread threat. This is more a "Open your eyes CCP" thread.
I love EVE as a GAME and i don't have bad feelings upon the game itself, or his comunity. I only have bad feeling upon some policys that need to be chanced. NPCing CTD is one thing and PVP CTD is another. If i had my ship back no one would get hurt, if i had lost it due to PVP and CTD i wouln't be posting anything because i could be ruining the game for someone else.
Why do CCP launch such items like CN Raven and Gistti X-Type modules?! Are they damned to be pieces of forniture inside your hangar like "project entropia" style?!
If these items exist they are meant to be flown and used, and not rotten inside an hangar.
IF i quit i would like to auction my stuff and my char for RL money and then CCP or someone entitled would give that money to charity. It would be a shame letting a 36M char dead in EVE without giving a meaning to his 2 and a half years life. I'm not sure if this is possible or not...
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
... I hope you can get up on your feet again without too much trouble...
Hang on a moment... I'm sure I've seen that somewhere before
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:40:00 -
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ive lost 2 bs and one ishtar to lag and ccp problems. when i lost the ishtar i had a log that showed id jumped out of the system (that iwas killed in) before i was killed yet i still didnt get re-imbursed.
v annoying at the time.
i dont mind losing ships but not to bugs thats just annoying.
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:42:00 -
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I always try to fly with a partner to avoid this happening to me. If it's not Eve crashing it's my ISP spazzing out 
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Aelius
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:49:00 -
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BTW, what ****es me off more in this all thing is that this beautifull piece of hardware didn't had a gloryfing death. I've taken it to some PVP areas before as NBSI, F-E and PA may state for.
I just wish it had been destroyed there, in PVP, in battle, not like this... 
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Selena 001
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
Ok my english sucks... does that make less right?!
I don't want to threat CCP or anyone about anything, i'm just trying to make EVE a better game. This is not your regular "i quit" thread threat. This is more a "Open your eyes CCP" thread.
Yea, thats what I mean. It happenes, CCP know about it. The only way to make them "Open their eyes" is if you threaten them with something that would damage them more than just letting you post on a forum.
If you want anyone to do something about this, you have to push them EVERY step of the way, otherwise they'll just let it be. If threatening them with something (like your withdrawl of subscription) doesn't take your fancy, reply to the GM's descision asking for it to be taken to a more senior one.
If it was just a crappy requent, run-of-the-mill CTD though, this wont go anywhere.
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Dracolich
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:55:00 -
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If people get their ships back or not, seems very random indeed. I must have lost a dusin bs this way. And only twice have I gotten it back.
Feel and know your your pain, mate.
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Olza Harp
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
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I'm not going to discuss GM talks or anything but lets just say i just lost a 4Bil ship to CTD NPCing. You figure out the rest.
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EVE is a nice game - it is not WoW.
Ship-Kill/Death is really a pain but this makes the difference.
(Btw., what I'm missing is Perma-Death  )
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Aelius
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:04:00 -
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OFFICIAL STATEMENT
I'm here by swearing to everyone in EVE that IF i get my ship back i will set course to enemy territory without IJBM and end it all there. If it must be destroyed at least it will be with a bang. That way i can be prowd to give someone the satisfaction of killing a CN Raven with Gistii X-type Modules.
END OF STATEMENT
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fisho
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:31:00 -
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cheese?
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n00b script0r
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:32:00 -
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hands out some more cheese
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:32:00 -
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Need a Tissue?
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MarkyP
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
OFFICIAL STATEMENT
That way i can be prowd to give someone the satisfaction of killing a CN Raven with Gistii X-type Modules.
END OF STATEMENT
Sympathy, dropping, away, fast...........
I know *PLENTY* of 2 y/o characters that have never even FLOWN a CN Raven, let alone owned one fitted with Gisti modules!!!
I am amazed its only been mentioned so briefly in this thread, but ANY player who has any experience of EVE, knows that if you cant afford to lose it, dont click on the "Undock" button.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
Please do not rant this thread.
Kinda broke your own rules with the original post?
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Hollborn
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:35:00 -
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Want some cheese?
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:35:00 -
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/me hands over the cheese..
--thoth
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ex-Curse Alliance
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Tiny Carlos
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Callisto Augustus
Hangry? Maybe you should eat a sammich...
Maybe some....cheese?
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hezitationkillz
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:36:00 -
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Cheese? i prefer spam when im hangry
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2005.11.27 16:37:00 -
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I'm thinking that this thread isn't overly serious.. because I don't remember any of Aelius' former posts being like this.. unless he sold his character :O
Originally by: Noriath
Duct tape is like the force, it has a dark side, a light side, and it holds the universe together...
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Udat
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Posted - 2005.11.27 17:36:00 -
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I've tidied the thread up a little. If you do not have anything constructive to say then please do not post. I will be watching this thread to ensure that noone starts ranting.
/me goes back to hiding in the bushes 
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.11.27 18:01:00 -
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if you were alway sguaranteed toget it back we woudl all be npcing in 4 bil worth of ship
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.11.27 18:03:00 -
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I would suggest you go through the proper channels.
The same rules bound us all, as iv'e seen many times on this board, we are constantly told that complaining about our loses on the board because of the intial, or be it final gm decission does not help the process of adjudication, or nor will it have effect on reversing it.
I for one wait for 'better tools' as they have been called.
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