Anyone is able to scan out your mission once you are inside it and take the mission objective / kill rats or indeed kill you.

Player interaction is everywhere

NPC reward is only a fraction of income of mission runner. About 50-70% of income is LP points. You compete with other players when you sell LP items.

Also, there are such things as ninja salvaging/looting and suicide ganking. Try to do some missions in popular mission hub (i.e. Osmon) in pimped mission-running ship and see what happens :)

Why are we allowed to run missions without having to compete against other players?, no other profession is allowed to do that.

Trading, exploration, production, mining and so on, are all influenced by the constant competition of other players. People might move to you area and start competing against you for the best sites, or constantly undercut your market orders. The market might get flooded with items, like we are seeing at the moment with data and relic items.

All professions are influenced by other players, except missions. As a mission runner you are payed by the npc, totally unaffected by other players. No matter how many players use the same agent the rewards are always the same, there is absolutely no player vs. player competition.

I know some are going to say, "another nerf mission thread", and i guess it is... but i'm not saying nerf the income, just make it more competitive, rewards smart, skilled, competitive playgame more then "afk" mission running.

Mission runners a famous for doing stupid things in overly expensive ships, but i think that classify as human stupidity not as challenge by game design.

Not everything has to be heavily contested in this game. Sometimes you just want to relax and blow stuff up.

NPC reward is only a fraction of income of mission runner. About 50-70% of income is LP points. You compete with other players when you sell LP items.

Also, there are such things as ninja salvaging/looting and suicide ganking. Try to do some missions in popular mission hub (i.e. Osmon) in pimped mission-running ship and see what happens :)

while that might be true, only mission runners are giving that choice....

Not really. Missions aren't restricted to a select few. If that's the sort of gameplay you want, then fit up a ship and run some missions. It's just one choice of many.

I like exploration, if missions was designed the same way, there would be a chance the agent would give the same mission to more then only player. I can't choose opt out the possibility of other players showing up and trying to steal the reward, only the mission runner get to play eve in easy mode.

Rinnve Elennean speaks the truth there.

After roughly a year and a half break i came back to eve and thought I'd give mission running out of Osmon a try. Two mission latter i paid the price for my own stupidity.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18812644

I like exploration, if missions was designed the same way, there would be a chance the agent would give the same mission to more then only player. I can't choose opt out the possibility of other players showing up and trying to steal the reward, only the mission runner get to play eve in easy mode.

would you mind explaining the circumstances of that encounter; was it a simple case of alpha damage, or was the room also heavy with NPC DPS?

would you mind explaining the circumstances of that encounter; was it a simple case of alpha damage, or was the room also heavy with NPC DPS?

what's special about Osmon, that prevents an alpha group from travelling elsewhere?

Why are we allowed to run missions without having to compete against other players?, no other profession is allowed to do that.

Trading, exploration, production, mining and so on, are all influenced by the constant competition of other players. People might move to you area and start competing against you for the best sites, or constantly undercut your market orders. The market might get flooded with items, like we are seeing at the moment with data and relic items.

All professions are influenced by other players, except missions. As a mission runner you are payed by the npc, totally unaffected by other players. No matter how many players use the same agent the rewards are always the same, there is absolutely no player vs. player competition.

I know some are going to say, "another nerf mission thread", and i guess it is... but i'm not saying nerf the income, just make it more competitive, rewards smart, skilled, competitive playgame more then "afk" mission running.

Dexington, all players are effected by mission runners, as there are limited activities in EVE that actually create ISK, mission running is essential to all market, PVP, PVE, exploration, and anything else you can think of. Without the ISK printed by mission runners there would be no economy and no EVE.

So find a carebear and thank him for making the game you play possible.

I prefer to think my ISK was generated by insurance payouts.

It's a good thought but diminishing returns means that ISK eventually will dry up and disappear.

Insure a BS and the pay-out might get you a BC, probably a Cruiser, lose the cruiser and you might get a t2 frig but most likely a T1 frig, lose the frig and you can get a shuttle.

Diminishing returns.