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DeliciousHamBeast
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:16:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:... Thanks for the tears. I needed some more sodium in my diet. 
Lowsex is most certainly worth the risk, I've lived out there for months, and I'm making a pretty steady profit. Low is exciting, risky and most of all fun - plus there's a startling amount of very friendly and polite people out there (even when they're on fire). For the purposes of full disclosure, I'm not even a pirate and I love it out here.
FYI this whole "Mmmm your tears sustain me" crap makes you sound like a child - not a badass. Come up with something original. -- Beep Beep Imma Jeep. |

Aida Nu
Nu Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.10.25 11:56:00 -
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I agree with OP. Im a 2 week old character. Yesterday I put a scrambler on my Kestrel and off I went to lowsec. I roamed for about 1 hour. Visited 20+ lowsec systems. It felt so exciting jumping into a new system and start scanning for potential targets. After a while I found a potential target that I thought I might be able to beat so I scanned him down and started warping to his location. My adrenaline was through the roof!!! Ive never had this feeling in ANY game before. Sadly the guy got away before i got a chance to lock him :( Luck was not smiling on me yesterday and I didnt manage to find anyone that I could take on. But tonight im going out out again!
Also people are so afraid that the second they jump in to lowsec they are going to die. NOT TRUE. I visited so many lowsec systems in Caldari space yesterday and I got out alive.
Dont be afraid of loosing a ship. Buy a cheap frigate, fit it cheaply and go out and have fun! I cant wait for my first kill!
PS, if there are any new players that would like to gang up and roam around and look for trouble contact me ingame :) |

Justin Credulent
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.10.25 12:35:00 -
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Quote:FYI this whole "Mmmm your tears sustain me" crap makes you sound like a child - not a badass. Come up with something original.
You sound bitter. Did someone blow you up and say something similar when you whined about it? Awe. :( |

Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
37
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Posted - 2011.10.26 14:05:00 -
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Good on you lads - more explosions and more pew pew is awesome. |

Cerisia
Lone Star enterprises
248
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Posted - 2011.10.26 15:35:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:Quote:FYI this whole "Mmmm your tears sustain me" crap makes you sound like a child - not a badass. Come up with something original. You sound bitter. Did someone blow you up and say something similar when you whined about it? Awe. :(
Confirming that your posts make you sound like you're about 12 Justin
Lo-sec isn't everybodys cup of tea but there is definitely excitement to be found down there. Kudos to the OP for taking the plunge and I think that you will fit into the game very well.
Free Lyris Nairn, goodposter extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar. |

Justin Credulent
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.26 16:01:00 -
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^Got blown up. Bitter over smack. |

Cerisia
Lone Star enterprises
248
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Posted - 2011.10.26 17:34:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:^Got blown up. Bitter over smack.
Yeah sorry - my mistake, I meant to say 5 - 6ish
1/10 poor troll is poor. Free Lyris Nairn, goodposter extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar. |

Blood Fart
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.10.26 19:12:00 -
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EvE starts at .4
Anything over that is for the brain dead and people who think there is nothing to be gained by loosing.... |

Jaxemont
Look At This Amazing Bullet
0
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Posted - 2011.10.26 20:43:00 -
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Toshiro GreyHawk wrote:The thing is - when people are warning new people about going down to lo sec - it is about going down there to make money - NOT about going down there to fight.
I made my first Billion Isk in lowsec, so I would argue that a little.
I started out grinding missions. By the time I unlocked lvl4 missions, I got so bored that I decided to do something else. I fitted up a 1m isk rifter, and went to lowsec. There I heard of 1/10 DED sites (Serpentis Drug Outlets) and decided to run those. From that, I made more money than I could running missions with the little SP I had. (And little time I had. During a few months, I could only log on for 1 hour at the end of the day, but I managed to average 20-40m isk/hr in that time spent online. I had a few lucky drops too. Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer - 285m ISK )
During that time I was training up my skills, getting a T2 fit for my rifter, and learning about D-Scan and the lay of the land. I got into quite a few rifter duels and managed to pull off some victories. I had a blast, along with the proverbial adrenaline/shaking hands. I still only have Min Frig 4, and mediocre gunnery support skills (lvl3s mostly).
Contracting the loot actually got me interested in trading, and that's what I'm doing now. I ran into a bad rut with drops a few months ago, everyone was running those sites, and the only ships I could find to fight were AFs and Dramiels. So I do other things now.
Caveat: If you're new and thinking of doing this, be careful. Sometimes "leet pvpers" camp those DED sites in Ishkurs/Dramiels, so make sure to scan those sites first before warping to 0 at them.
TL;DR: New players - there is a way to make ISK in lowsec as well, and it could even be better isk/hr than running missions if you have very low SP. You only need knowledge, willingness to learn, and willingness to take a few losses here and there. |

Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
17
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Posted - 2011.10.27 11:53:00 -
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Low-sec isn't worth the increased amount of risk taken. I've recently moved to low-sec, but I have yet to see any actual increase in income from being there. |
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Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
42
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Posted - 2011.10.27 12:16:00 -
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I moved to low sec recenltly too. Less time invested for similiar or greater profits. Seems good to me. |

Jaxemont
Look At This Amazing Bullet
1
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:19:00 -
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Anshio Tamark wrote:Low-sec isn't worth the increased amount of risk taken. I've recently moved to low-sec, but I have yet to see any actual increase in income from being there. Could you be a bit more specific in how you're trying to make money in lowsec?
Lowsec isn't a good place to make money off rat bounties. Ratting and missioning aren't worth the risk, I'll admit that. Stick to highsec missions if that's how you like to make money. (Ratting is best done in 0.0 anyways).
Lowsec PI can make some decent money, if you know what you're doing. I know somebody who can make over a billion per month in PI. (Though that could be with an alt.) Still, 500m per month for mostly passive income can't be too bad.
Exploration in lowsec isn't too bad either. Though you have to go out of your way to places no one is likely to go. If you expect to get a bunch of sites near a hub, you're probably out of luck.
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Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
42
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Posted - 2011.10.28 10:30:00 -
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Exploration in low sec is fantastic (more sites as most people are afraid of going into low). Faction warfare missions. Planetery interaction. Salvaging (T2 ships wrecks from PvP combat - intact stuff sells for alot). Ganking haulers. Ransoms
Lots of good sources of income.
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Justin Credulent
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.10.28 12:47:00 -
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Quote:Yeah sorry - my mistake, I meant to say 5 - 6ishRoll
1/10 poor troll is poor.
Don't try so hard - you actually look like you're overcompensating now. |

Cerisia
Lone Star enterprises
250
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Posted - 2011.10.28 22:57:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:Quote:Yeah sorry - my mistake, I meant to say 5 - 6ishRoll
1/10 poor troll is poor. Don't try so hard - you actually look like you're overcompensating now.
Um yeah....... Free Lyris Nairn, goodposter extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar. |

Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
3
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:42:00 -
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Jennifer Starling wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jennifer Starling wrote:My only problem with podding is losing implants worth several hundred millions of ISK. And it's not that skilltraining isn-¦t already extremely sluggish without them .. Jump clones are the answer here. Imho the whole implant stuff is one of EVE-¦s worst game mechanics - why have them while you better don-¦t use them for a day every single time you PvP?!
Make a JC that has 20 mil worth of +4s for whatever the attirbute you are training and a few 3% hardwires (if you need/want them) and just jump back and forth.
That being said a LOT of people fly some expensive implants in low-sec, because you stand are pretty high chance of getting you clone out. I've lost 33 ships in the year I've played but only 4 clones and two of them were my fault, aka I screwed up.
If you are in the S-button as you go down it takes a remote sensor boosted interceptor who's watching for it to catch you, you will usually get away. |

Justin Credulent
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.10.30 03:23:00 -
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Because being forced to pay millions of ISK or else get podded is so much fun!*
*That is, if they honor ransom. |

Schmata Bastanold
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:28:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:(PS: Schmata Bastanold is cute because she's one of those "wannabe psycopath" players)
well, thank you for those kind words :)
yesterday I was some kind of Tuskers groupie because I hang out in Havrice and other lowsec sectors nearby where they were flying, even played hide and seek with Mara Abraham for a few moments, exchanged some literature related words with her on local and then followed few Tuskers across several sectors luckily avoiding being scrammed and webbed by Suleiman Shouaa at one of gates.
but I suppose not very far into future this groupie will get gangbanged and that will scar her twisted mind even more :) I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
4
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Posted - 2011.10.31 22:22:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:Because being forced to pay millions of ISK or else get podded is so much fun!*
*That is, if they honor ransom.
(PS: Schmata Bastanold is cute because she's one of those "wannabe psycopath" players)
Bah, Bastards are the only corp you pay a ransom, most of the rest the standard response is **** you, just pod me. |

Cunane Jeran
22
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Posted - 2011.11.01 02:19:00 -
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Lowsec is as safe or as dangerous as you want it to be.
That said, nice work on going out there and giving it a bash in the humble Rifter. We could do with more young pilots fighting, it's just plain fun (and good for the economy) |
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Xi 'xar
Mise en Abyme
1
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Posted - 2011.11.01 09:38:00 -
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I applaud the OP for this post.
Lowsec doesn't need fixing by CCP (some things could use some work, sure) - it needs fixing by the players, specifically by a change in their attitude towards lowsec. Every new player should know that getting into lowsec is easy, relatively safe (if you have done a bit of research) profitable (again, do some reading) and can be extremely fun (even if you lose).
http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/explore-low-sec/
http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/live-low-sec/
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Praxis Astra
Smiling Friends Social Club Hearts And Minds Alliance
21
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:47:00 -
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I could not agree with you more.
I do a lot of exploring in NPC nullsec and sov nullsec as well as low sec and sometimes there's trouble but I routinely go on 20-40 jump trips and make it through seeing some nullsec hi jinx.
Low and null sec are just more interesting.
 Praxis Astra Master of Assassins and Punctuality http://heartsandmindsalliance.org |

Neriko Hakaari
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:48:00 -
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I just bought a few new frigates to try it out as im quite fresh in eve. Jumping closer towards 0.0 as I am typing this and I must say that I'm really excited :)
It doesnt matter if I get killed or not, I can always buy new ships, however I cannot buy back lost time from staring at asteroids. |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
34
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Posted - 2011.11.05 00:19:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:Quote:Yeah sorry - my mistake, I meant to say 5 - 6ishRoll
1/10 poor troll is poor. Don't try so hard - you actually look like you're overcompensating now. You have nothing constructive to add to the thread, and you've been trolling since you got here. You, actually, look like the one overcompensating.
Didn't like low-sec myself, WH's are much more to my taste, but I commend the OP for at least *trying*.
Good on ya' m8!
EDIT TO ADD:
Onictus wrote:Bah, Bastards are the only corp you pay a ransom, most of the rest the standard response is **** you, just pod me. The Bastards have a policy of honoring every ransom that they make... They don't always offer a ransom, but if so, they *WILL* honor it!
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

Hugo Mesmopotian
Space-punk Universe-runner Corporation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.05 08:13:00 -
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Hello there,
well for me as an beginner aka "noob" (I-¦m playing EVE for a month now) low sec is not really an option atm. Ok, I have already some frigates to waste, but first I-¦d like to learn more about the game and train my skills higher.
One thing is clear to me though, I definitely don-¦t waste the rest of my EVE-life with all the carebears in high sec. |

Hedoran Jaynara
Cromwell Holdings
0
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Posted - 2011.11.05 09:41:00 -
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Hugo Mesmopotian wrote:
well for me as an beginner aka "noob" (I-¦m playing EVE for a month now) low sec is not really an option atm. Ok, I have already some frigates to waste, but first I-¦d like to learn more about the game and train my skills higher.
On the contrary. The things you learn about the game in low sec can not be learned in high sec. And you don't have to have many skillpoints either to visit low sec. Many people say to them self, "not yet, I'll just wait until I get *insert random skill* before I enter low sec."
The quicker you go, the sooner you realize:
a) This isn't so bad at all, I'm still flying my ship
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b) The thrill of watching your surroundings is something you never will experience in high sec, and once you've felt the sweet taste of danger that may be lurking around the corner, you never want to go back to high sec again. :) |

Zeth Neccro
AMEBIX Crust
0
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Posted - 2011.11.05 10:33:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:And what I personally don't like there is a common attitude "oh, don't go there, bad people will hurt you if you do". uuh, me is terrified so much, I better cover my head with blanket and read ghost stories instead...
Because I paid money to see beautiful interiors of CQ and wait until I will be "ready"...
Truth is that sneaking around lowsec is fun. Nobody's in overview but scanner detects a lot of ships. You check their info (cause you are noob, you don't remember what is dangerous yet) and they are pretty nasty. "Will I make it to a gate or will they jump on me?".
Or when you find some lone ship all those thoughts running through your heads: "is he alone?... is it a trap?... do I have a chance?... will I escape if sh*t hits the fan?... omg, omG, oMG, OMG he's locking me!!!".
It is all fun, at least to me. And without those emotions I don't think I would pay my subscription.
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! *applause*
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VR Highfive
Raptor Industries Art of War Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.11.05 11:22:00 -
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+1 like for the OP because she is taking the risk and having fun. 
And I agree getting blow up in the learning proces of PvP ain't so bad.
Get in fights, get messy, loose ships, have fun.
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Aida Nu
Nu Industries
22
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Posted - 2011.11.05 13:43:00 -
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Hugo Mesmopotian wrote:Hello there,
well for me as an beginner aka "noob" (I-¦m playing EVE for a month now) low sec is not really an option atm. Ok, I have already some frigates to waste, but first I-¦d like to learn more about the game and train my skills higher.
One thing is clear to me though, I definitely don-¦t waste the rest of my EVE-life with all the carebears in high sec.
I got my first kill in lowsec when i was 2 weeks old :) Give it a shot! |

Daisai
Daisai Investments.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.06 19:35:00 -
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@ OP
Nice story and all only it just shows that pvp in eve online is dead. Low sec pvp is mostly gatecamps and the same thing goes for null sec.
Going alone pvp is just asking to be killed and your post confirms this, if you see a target which looks to good to be true. Its a baitship and you get scrambled as soon as you start attacking only to be killed by a larger group.
Being killed like cannonfodder in a game where the gameplay is all about skillpoints and fittings and basicly has the most passive gameplay i have ever seen is not fun.
Sure you only lost your cheap tech 1 frigate only you did loss your implants which costs way more then that frigate.
You can of course take a jumpclone without implants to pvp with only that basicly causes you to loss 48 hours of optimized skill training. Which already take ages to complete.
I tried it several times using a fitted ship i didnt really care about to try and search for some fun pvp in low/null sec. The only thing i came across are gatecamps.
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