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Salpad Carebears with Attitude 345	Posted - 2013.07.02 19:31:00 - [31] - Quote Claire Raynor wrote: I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too. Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much. But I'd like this! For the Gallente, faction drones are the obvious choice of a second "ammunition" type.
Lallante Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 360	Posted - 2013.07.02 19:57:00 - [32] - Quote Jen Ann Tonique wrote: Minmatar have viable rocket/missile ships from the Breacher frigate all the way to the Typhoon Battleship now, yet Minmatar pilots can't get faction rockets/missiles from their own racial LP stores. I'm not sure why Minmatar don't have "Republic Fleet" missiles yet but would love to hear an explanation. The same goes for amarr actually.
Sigras Conglomo 442	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:07:00 - [33] - Quote an easier fix would be to remove CN hybrid ammo from the game because they're the odd ones out, but i feel like the CN would scream bloody murder if they did that.
Jen Ann Tonique University of Caille Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:24:00 - [34] - Quote Sigras wrote: an easier fix would be to remove CN hybrid ammo from the game because they're the odd ones out, but i feel like the CN would scream bloody murder if they did that. Very true. I'd rather have a second choice of missile supplier myself though. It would be nice if Amarr/Gallente had options to turn in say 5 drones + LP and ISK for 5 faction drones as well. Or at least Gallente. Jen Ann Tonique *does not* approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms.
Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 2242	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:58:00 - [35] - Quote It sounds like some Minnie FW pilots want a new outlet for their LP's.... On the surface, the creation of rustbucket missiles sounds alright, but I'd leave it up to the devs to decide if this will destroy game balance.
Jen Ann Tonique University of Caille Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:02:00 - [36] - Quote Gizznitt Malikite wrote: It sounds like some Minnie FW pilots want a new outlet for their LP's.... On the surface, the creation of rustbucket missiles sounds alright, but I'd leave it up to the devs to decide if this will destroy game balance. I can't speak for everyone, but I have no experience with FW myself. I want a better way to get ammo while I'm running missions. Selling ammo is usually not the best way to unload LPs, at least if you care about making ISK. Jen Ann Tonique *does not* approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms.
Verity Sovereign Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter 488	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:33:00 - [37] - Quote Salpad wrote: Claire Raynor wrote: I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too. Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much. But I'd like this! For the Gallente, faction drones are the obvious choice of a second "ammunition" type. Unfortunately, faction drones seem reserved for FW, and all races have them. As far as hull mounted weapons, Gallente are unique, in that they now only use 1 weapon type. They used to see some missile use (rodan ships), but basically not anymore (although there is the nemesis) Yes, gallente use drones, but so do everyone else from cruisers to BS. Moros lost its drones, Domi now competes with the Geddon. Myrm competes with proph, vexor always competed with the arby. Catalyst lost its drone, then added a specialized drone destroyer (amarr got one too). Many of the T1 frigs lost their drones (they all used to have at least 5m3), except the tristan (turned into specialized drone boat) and the rookie hull. Gallente don't even have a faction damage mod for Drones (we need FN drone damage amps and drone nav computers) Perhaps an exception could be made, and gallente faction drones offered outside FW. That still leaves the amarr... their T1 ship lineup has a few missile boats... their T2 khanid line has many... they've got 3 weapon systems... lasers, drones, and missiles. Does this mean that they should offer 3 types? technically, we've got 3 factions there, Amarr, Ammatar, and Khanid. Should the Khanid and ammatar navies be offering faction crystals and missiles, while the amarr navy offers faction amarr drones (side note, fix the drones, where Amarr drones just suck in comparison to the rest, and minmatar drones are a bit out of line in terms of baancing speed and damage)
Jen Ann Tonique University of Caille Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2013.07.02 22:02:00 - [38] - Quote I think it's safe to say that Tiericide has come far enough to clearly define who uses what weapons and how that might affect the future and that this is something that needs looked into. One trap I don't want to fall into though is the "waiting game" where CCP wants to fix it all in one go ( and in turn takes 3 years to do it) instead of doing something that with little work could improve the quality of life for a lot of pilots right now. Of course the other things can be done, and should be looked into and yes, this could tie into new modules and such like was stated. Jen Ann Tonique *does not* approve of this product and/or service. Any comments contained herin are to be taken not seriously and no person/s shall hold Jen Ann Tonique responsible for any damage real and/or imagined due to use or misuse of above comment. By reading this statement you agree to the above terms.
Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 2242	Posted - 2013.07.02 22:02:00 - [39] - Quote Jen Ann Tonique wrote: Gizznitt Malikite wrote: It sounds like some Minnie FW pilots want a new outlet for their LP's.... On the surface, the creation of rustbucket missiles sounds alright, but I'd leave it up to the devs to decide if this will destroy game balance. I can't speak for everyone, but I have no experience with FW myself. I want a better way to get ammo while I'm running missions. Selling ammo is usually not the best way to unload LPs, at least if you care about making ISK. When your unloading several million LP's, item movement rate matters as much as isk/LP.

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