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Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.01 22:22:00 - [1] Edited by: Acwron on 01/12/2005 22:22:38 Originally by: Muthsera In my time in eve that is probobly the most accurate and neutral report I have ever seen. It explains the situation very well. And whitout having intel from that area, I can not verify it. But to me it looked solid. My hope is status reports like this becomes more common. It doesn't take sides. And it gives a bird eye view of the situation. Many could learn from this kind of report. Instead of beating the war drums and play propaganda. Nicely done mate. Well it looks neutral but considering it's full of half truths and doesn't get facts right it's pretty useless. It contains quite a lot of propagenda that ASCN is spreading within their ranks. (e.g. less than a third of our fleet acctually jumped in. the rest was already there)
Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.01 22:46:00 - [2] Originally by: raistalin Originally by: Acwron Edited by: Acwron on 01/12/2005 22:25:16 Originally by: Muthsera In my time in eve that is probobly the most accurate and neutral report I have ever seen. It explains the situation very well. And whitout having intel from that area, I can not verify it. But to me it looked solid. My hope is status reports like this becomes more common. It doesn't take sides. And it gives a bird eye view of the situation. Many could learn from this kind of report. Instead of beating the war drums and play propaganda. Nicely done mate. Well it looks neutral but considering it's full of half truths and doesn't get facts right it's pretty useless. It contains quite a lot of propagenda that ASCN is spreading within their ranks. (e.g. less than a third of our fleet acctually jumped in. the rest was already there) PS: enough with these pseudo alt posts I've read it over a couple times and I don't see alot thats objectionable. How would you know what is being spread within the ranks? This to imply G feels the need to use the ever-lame forum spies? I've seen alot of propaganda smack on the forums and in local from G such that I feel you've no right to accuse anyone of this. raistalin seriously I don't need a forum spy (or any kind of spy) to know what ASCN think (they say most of it on the forums outloud anyway)
Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.02 11:02:00 - [3] Edited by: Acwron on 02/12/2005 11:02:12 Originally by: ArcticFox Edited by: ArcticFox on 02/12/2005 10:28:23 Originally by: Acwron Well it looks neutral but considering it's full of half truths and doesn't get facts right it's pretty useless. It contains quite a lot of propagenda that ASCN is spreading within their ranks. (e.g. less than a third of our fleet acctually jumped in. the rest was already there) PS: enough with these pseudo alt posts So I'm assuming that your definition of propaganda is something along the lines of "Anything that doesn't state that ASCN is on the verge of collapse due to the un-stoppable might of G and her allies." Because frankly I dont see anything in the OP but exactly what happened. The facts are laid out: POS were placed in system, ASCN started shooting them, Some portion of the G and friends forces came back, A fleet battle ended with G no longer at the gate (regardless of the kills/deaths ratio), ASCN proceeded to put 14 POS into reinforced mode I can state with a fair amount of confidence that if my beleif in these events is based on propaganda it's damn good propaganda, because I could swear I was actually there and saw these things happen. There's nothing slanted towards ASCN that I can find. Do you simply deny that the above events occured? nope I do not deny it but it looks quite different when you take into account that ASCN refused to fight G when ASCN only had around 10-15 ship advantage. (70 vs 80-90). G logged (well it was past midnight during the week). Than ASCN started to act. When there was hardly an enemy left. I'm not saying they should not do that and it's a good strategie when you can't take your enemy head on. The only difference this time was that G was eager for a fleet battle and we got a bloody good one though being heavily outnumbered. Of course our killratio wasn't as good as before but still way on our favour. ASCN still believe that when they shoot POSes when the enemy is not present they win anything. Well keep believing it and you will die even quicker. PS: POS war lol? do you think we could not have placed POSes in every one of your systems if we wanted so? It's about getting you acting since you refused to act last week. And if you refuse again you'll lose more stations.
Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.02 12:00:00 - [4] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig So acvron after weeks of guerilla you got bored and engaged unfavouable odds - good for us. You threaten to anchor more POSes in our space if we dont fight you head on - go ahead, we dealt with the ones in AZN we can deal with the others... Anyway, the angry tone of you post ("dirty hobbitses you wont fight? you will die even quicklier!") gives away a lot about how your currently feeling towards how this war is going ^_^ Gobert im perfectly happy how the war is going.:) Im getting into a fleet battle at least 2 times a week and thats more than fine by me :). I just think it's so funny that ASCN is braging about shooting POSes in the middle of the night and they think that's going to win their war. The POSes are to give you guys incentives to act and finally you did though it was in the middle of the night. So we need to give a even harder time and force you to really face us (and that's all the POSes are about for us).
Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.02 12:16:00 - [5] Originally by: PK CHAOS Originally by: Acwron Gobert im perfectly happy how the war is going.:) Im getting into a fleet battle at least 2 times a week and thats more than fine by me :). I just think it's so funny that ASCN is braging about shooting POSes in the middle of the night and they think that's going to win their war. The POSes are to give you guys incentives to act and finally you did though it was in the middle of the night. So we need to give a even harder time and force you to really face us (and that's all the POSes are about for us). Nice bit of spin there (bolded). null care to explain who that would be a spin? ATM ASCN does not fight us if they only have a slight advantage (except for Crohnx <3)
Acwron	Posted - 2005.12.02 12:35:00 - [6] Originally by: PK CHAOS Acwron, I MENTIONED NOTHING ABOUT FIGHTING. tis aboot your spin on PoS's fair enough than tell me were is there.

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