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grrlet
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:36:00 -
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I don't think we're allowed to post KMs, so please check out eve kill. The Bhaalgorn in the top left (Most expensive kills).
Noob victim in a veteran pirate ship failing to win against a veteran player in a newbie ship.
PS: Before you point out Concords participation, please note that they only account for 15% of the damage. 15b isk did not prevent fail 2 win noobie from making an uber fail mistake. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
928
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:56:00 -
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650+DPS ship is not really a noob ship, and the character sit on it is not really 900K SP worth plus, high sec mechanics greatly help this kind of silliness happening.
I'm quite sure that so awesome high sec grieffer veteran runs to null sec doing his favorite pass time will get nothing but shuttles, ibis and other noobships cyno alts, a lazy miner or ratting bot eventually, and I really say eventually.
This is exactly the kind of KM and KB that makes me laugh. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

baltec1
Bat Country
7192
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:07:00 -
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Good god
[Bhaalgorn, Quan HonorTheCall's Bhaalgorn] F-90 Positional Signal Amplifier 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I Chelm's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Tobias' Modified X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive True Sansha Stasis Webifier Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster 'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L 'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Draclira's Modified Large EMP Smartbomb
[empty rig slot] |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
364
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:11:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Good god
[Bhaalgorn, Quan HonorTheCall's Bhaalgorn] F-90 Positional Signal Amplifier 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I Chelm's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Tobias' Modified X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive True Sansha Stasis Webifier Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster 'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L 'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Draclira's Modified Large EMP Smartbomb
[empty rig slot]
What has been seen... cannot be unseen.
Seriously, that just hurts to look at. Somebody send the owner of this... thing... to RvB so he can learn how to fit a ship. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
51
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:11:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Good god
[Bhaalgorn, Quan HonorTheCall's Bhaalgorn] F-90 Positional Signal Amplifier 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I Chelm's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Tobias' Modified X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive True Sansha Stasis Webifier Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster 'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L 'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Draclira's Modified Large EMP Smartbomb
[empty rig slot]
I cried when I saw that fit. That Bhaalgorn is at a better place now.  |

Thar Saal
Sorry About Your Face Catastrophic Uprising
48
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:17:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Good god
[Bhaalgorn, Quan HonorTheCall's Bhaalgorn] F-90 Positional Signal Amplifier 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I Chelm's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Tobias' Modified X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive True Sansha Stasis Webifier Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster 'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L 'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Draclira's Modified Large EMP Smartbomb
[empty rig slot]
Confused whether to shoot at that ship, or chant "THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU" will liberally applying holy water
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
928
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:19:00 -
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FlamesOfHeaven wrote:That Bhaalgorn is at a better place now. 
Indeed 
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:21:00 -
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somebody will be needing more plexes soon ...quick raise the price  |

Spurty
902
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Posted - 2013.07.04 01:24:00 -
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Loved the comments on that kill lol
Priceless
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |

grrlet
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.04 02:53:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:650+DPS ship is not really a noob ship.....
The lack of requirements needed to fly a gnosis make it a newbie ship. |
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
2831
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:12:00 -
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FlamesOfHeaven wrote:baltec1 wrote:Good god
[Bhaalgorn, Quan HonorTheCall's Bhaalgorn] F-90 Positional Signal Amplifier 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I 'Natura' Warp Core Stabilizer I Chelm's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Tobias' Modified X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive True Sansha Stasis Webifier Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster 'Investor' Tracking Disruptor I
'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L 'Ballista' Tachyon Beam Laser I,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Selynne's Modified Dual Heavy Beam Laser,True Sanshas Microwave L Draclira's Modified Large EMP Smartbomb
[empty rig slot] I cried when I saw that fit. That Bhaalgorn is at a better place now.  Yeah... the same place that 4 others like it share. The guy has a thing for fail-pimping Bhaalgorns and losing it to dumb situations.  Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

Wyrm Drake
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:42:00 -
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Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1274
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:44:00 -
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Just wait until his mother sees her credit card bill. Oh god. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
365
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:46:00 -
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Wyrm Drake wrote:Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands.
If you need to add a qualifier to the statement, then it's not P2W at all.
P2W means Pay to Win. He paid, but he couldn't win. Thus it isn't the overwhelming statistical advantage suggested by the very term you are suggesting. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
95
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Posted - 2013.07.04 05:27:00 -
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Thar Saal wrote:
Confused whether to shoot at that ship, or chant "THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU" will liberally applying holy water
I would be tempted to apply Damnation to the ship and Absolution to the pod. 
Actually, upon more mature consideration, I'd apply Damnation to the pod as well.  |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5402
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Posted - 2013.07.04 05:53:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Wyrm Drake wrote:Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands. If you need to add a qualifier to the statement, then it's not P2W at all. P2W means Pay to Win. He paid, but he couldn't win. Thus it isn't the overwhelming statistical advantage suggested by the very term you are suggesting. It might not be P2W, but your reasoning for that doesn't make any sense in this case. What he is trying to say is, that this is anecdotal evidence and therefore doesn't really matter. Doing otherwise would be like saying an OP ship doesn't need any rebalancing, because some idiot fail fitted one and lost it to a battle badger. It's a cherry picked example, that is statistically insignificant and doesn't represent typical cases, so it doesn't prove anything one way or another. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
365
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Posted - 2013.07.04 05:56:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Wyrm Drake wrote:Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands. If you need to add a qualifier to the statement, then it's not P2W at all. P2W means Pay to Win. He paid, but he couldn't win. Thus it isn't the overwhelming statistical advantage suggested by the very term you are suggesting. It might not be P2W, but your reasoning for that doesn't make any sense in this case. What he is trying to say is, that this is anecdotal evidence and therefore doesn't really matter. Doing otherwise would be like saying an OP ship doesn't need any rebalancing, because some idiot fail fitted one and lost it to a battle badger. It's a cherry picked example, that is statistically insignificant and doesn't represent typical cases, so it doesn't prove anything one way or another.
I disagree. Pay to Win games, and I have attempted to play many of them over the years, are games in which player skill takes a serious back-burner to payer skill. If you have the Mega Armor of Awesomeness and the other guy does not, then they go poof. If both players do, then and only then does it come down to player skill.
EVE is not like this. All the isk in the world won't allow you bludgeon someone into submission if you suck at this game. That's why it's not Pay to Win. Because if you pay, there's no guarantee at all that you will win. In fact it tends to just make you a better target. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
166
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:01:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Wyrm Drake wrote:Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands. If you need to add a qualifier to the statement, then it's not P2W at all. P2W means Pay to Win. He paid, but he couldn't win. Thus it isn't the overwhelming statistical advantage suggested by the very term you are suggesting. Pay to Win doesnt mean a blind ******** Bonobo (likely this is some sort of BRT experiment) can play EvE well even when paying since only humans should play EvE. |

FlamesOfHeaven
Phantom Fenix
52
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:03:00 -
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Dont even know why people are crying over such thing (P2W). First world problems I guess. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1275
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:03:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:All the isk in the world won't allow you bludgeon someone into submission if you suck at this game. It allows you to pay other people to do it for you though.
Oh god. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
365
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:04:00 -
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Quote:Pay to Win doesnt mean a blind ******** Bonobo (likely this is some sort of BRT experiment) can play EvE well even when paying since only humans should play EvE.
I'm curious as to where the Bonobo got ahold of a credit card? And does it have people clothes on, or is it just naked? The clothes make the man, as they say.
Quote:It allows you to pay other people to do it for you though.
I'm going to have to go semantics on this one. That's not paying to win, insomuch as it is the aggrieved party paying for the satisfaction of ensuring that someone else loses. A small difference, but still important. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
702
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:10:00 -
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That kill only proves PLEX (or RMT or just huge amount ISK received from friend or alt) cannot help handicapped person.
For PLEX you can buy OGB and carrier pilots, ships, assign fighters to your main, turn on skirmish and siege boosters - voila! - you are much more capable than few hours ago. |

Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
100
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:17:00 -
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Wyrm Drake wrote:Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands.
Pay to win would only be pay to win if you cant get the modules without paying money. No idea how you got the impression that eve has a pay to win. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
365
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:20:00 -
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Daisai wrote:Wyrm Drake wrote:Regardless. One incident does not disprove anything. PLEX is P2W in the right hands. Pay to win would only be pay to win if you cant get the modules without paying money. No idea how you got the impression that eve has a pay to win.
It's the FoTM whine. That and freighters getting ganked, which is apparently a new phenomenon.  Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
167
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:26:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Pay to Win doesnt mean a blind ******** Bonobo (likely this is some sort of BRT experiment) can play EvE well even when paying since only humans should play EvE. I'm curious as to where the Bonobo got ahold of a credit card? And does it have people clothes on, or is it just naked? The clothes make the man, as they say. Quote:It allows you to pay other people to do it for you though. I'm going to have to go semantics on this one. That's not paying to win, insomuch as it is the aggrieved party paying for the satisfaction of ensuring that someone else loses. A small difference, but still important. Obviously its handler at MIT. Probably took the poor thing weeks of electroshock (wrong slot) / bananna (right slot) training to fit those ships too.
Likely shiny silver spacesuit. They like those. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
366
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:30:00 -
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Quote:Obviously its handler at MIT. Probably took the poor thing weeks of electroshock (wrong slot) / bananna (right slot) training to fit those ships too.
Likely shiny silver spacesuit. They like those.
Well, if it has people clothes on, then it's still more of a player than half the ice miners I've ever met. Ever try to get a conversation started in an ice mining hub? It's like talking to the TV while watching Springer, and even less interactive.
I would imagine that they train said Bonobo to use corp fits, it's probably faster. Although I bet that getting it to set lowball buy orders for T2 guns and faction ammo was a pain in the ass. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1344
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:34:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:For PLEX you can buy OGB and carrier pilots, ships, assign fighters to your main, turn on skirmish and siege boosters - voila! - you are much more capable than few hours ago.
Those would only make you far more capable of sitting in a wider variety of hulls. It won't amount to anything more than hilarious killmails if you don't know how to fit or fly them, and that's the kind of thing you can't buy. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Jorden Ishonen
Kinetic Technologies
3
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Posted - 2013.07.04 06:47:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Lipbite wrote:For PLEX you can buy OGB and carrier pilots, ships, assign fighters to your main, turn on skirmish and siege boosters - voila! - you are much more capable than few hours ago. Those would only make you far more capable of sitting in a wider variety of hulls. It won't amount to anything more than hilarious killmails if you don't know how to fit or fly them, and that's the kind of thing you can't buy.
Snow Axe, I think having a sig like yours without a link to the quote is punishable by law in Texas. |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
7365
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Posted - 2013.07.04 07:26:00 -
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Wyrm Drake wrote:PLEX is P2W http://memecrunch.com/meme/MDBN/third-party-facepalm/image.png You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |

Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2013.07.04 08:59:00 -
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Uh, this could also be staged by the guy that killed it. Some people have to much isk, reached endgame eve and are bored. What's left to do? Yes, make funny killmails. |
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