Sorry, i am not paying $15 a month to watch a bunch of dudes lisping in a corner comparing pants and not being able to gank them. I'm sure there's a lot of other players who feel the same way.

As for players doing suicide gank's in high sec and then escaping Concord, that's an exploit which should be reported asap. If it is indeed happening, then CCP needs to fix that problem asap.

High sec gate / station camping is due to broken game mechanics. Basically that's loitering and in any civilized community, those doing that would be questioned by the authorities and then told to vacate the area, if not then they would be issued a fine, then forcibly removed and possibly detained, especially in a high security environment.

As I said earlier, I'm not going to participate in WiS content if my Avatar can be ganked in high security stations, plain and simple. If that's allowed, then it's not high security. If I wanted to play a 'Free for all' FPS PvP game, I definitely wouldn't be playing Eve.

Since my main clone has implants, I'm not going to clone jump just to go check out high security WiS for 15 minutes due to a possible suicide gank on my Avatar and then wait 24 hrs to jump back into my main clone again. I'm sorry but that is unacceptable. Besides that, a high skilled character is going to pay a lot more ISK to upgrade their Medical Clone compared to a low skilled character. That alone opens up the door to having mass amounts of low skilled Avatar Attack Alt's being created.

Those saying they want non-consensual PvP action in WiS high security stations are actually advocating grief play. If allowed they would probably have a Terrorist Avatar fit up a Bomb Vest under it's Jacket and blow up half the station killing 100 Avatars all at the same time.

Sorry, I'm not paying $15 a month subscription fee to have my Avatar open to free ganking if I walk out of my CQ in a high security station. I'm sure there's a lot of other players who feel the same way.

Sorry, i am not paying $15 a month to watch a bunch of dudes lisping in a corner comparing pants and not being able to gank them. I'm sure there's a lot of other players who feel the same way.

Re: DeMichael Crimson and Indahmawar Fazmarai

With you two desiring WIS to be completely kill free and a safe haven for all, you two may push players normally not interested in that aspect of the game to ~force~ CCP to parallel the FIS aspect of the game just so they can take pot shots at those targets you two are painting on your backs...

Re: DeMichael Crimson and Indahmawar Fazmarai

With you two desiring WIS to be completely kill free and a safe haven for all, you two may push players normally not interested in that aspect of the game to ~force~ CCP to parallel the FIS aspect of the game just so they can take pot shots at those targets you two are painting on your backs...

Isn't that what they have desired all the time?? I do hope CCP is smarter than that though or they will kill EVE.

Oh, yes, we are calling upon us the wrath of tear collectors by asking CCP to keep stations the same they are now even if WiS is delivered. Otherwise griefers would not have the lesser interest to grief people in stations too and face as many retaliation and consequences as they bravely endure in FiS.

So what you are asking for is a space version of the Sims?

Why wouldn't CCP release whole categories of new skills that revolve around station life? Defensive skills that boost your personal mental and physical body? Offensive skills that boost your combat effectiveness? Bodyguard skills similar to Drones that can protect you from sudden attacks? Marketing and Trading skills that allow players to build those establishments? Social skills for the mere chance to interact with infamous NPC characters in the lore history?

Then there are potentially whole avenues for manufacturing skills involving fashion design with casual, combat, and every other type of dress wear as an occasion will see fit. Or cybernetic enhancements for both defensive and offensive boosts similar to what was found in the Shadowrun universe? Personal side arms could be another whole manufacturing route too. Then the more exotic "modules" to add to your body like personal force fields as but an example.

To be completely risk aversion while being a squishy flesh form in a station goes against the core of Eve. Yes, high security stations should be safer that low or even null security "public" stations - have a similar Concord presence parallel to FIS. But to be afraid to loose _anything_ once out of the pod?

You're playing the wrong game in my humble opinion.

First of all, both of you are completely wrong but nice try at trolling. I was talking about high security WiS and to be fair I never said make it 100% completely safe.

As I said earlier, I'm not going to participate in WiS content if my Avatar can be ganked in high security stations, plain and simple. If that's allowed, then it's not high security.

Since my main clone has implants, I'm not going to clone jump just to go check out high security WiS for 15 minutes due to a possible suicide gank on my Avatar and then wait 24 hrs to jump back into my main clone again.

Those saying they want non-consensual PvP action in WiS high security stations are actually advocating grief play.

Sorry, I'm not paying $15 a month subscription fee to have my Avatar open to free ganking if I walk out of my CQ in a high security station. I'm sure there's a lot of other players who feel the same way.

No weapons in WiS. It must be forbidden in WiS by CONCORD and we would be scanned every time we enter public area.
IF there must be the way to kill person that would be personal attacks - brake a neck of person or male attack.
AND it have to be much more heavy sanctioned then in space.

So what you are asking for is a space version of the Sims?

Why wouldn't CCP release whole categories of new skills that revolve around station life? Defensive skills that boost your personal mental and physical body? Offensive skills that boost your combat effectiveness? Bodyguard skills similar to Drones that can protect you from sudden attacks? Marketing and Trading skills that allow players to build those establishments? Social skills for the mere chance to interact with infamous NPC characters in the lore history?

Then there are potentially whole avenues for manufacturing skills involving fashion design with casual, combat, and every other type of dress wear as an occasion will see fit. Or cybernetic enhancements for both defensive and offensive boosts similar to what was found in the Shadowrun universe? Personal side arms could be another whole manufacturing route too. Then the more exotic "modules" to add to your body like personal force fields as but an example.

To be completely risk aversion while being a squishy flesh form in a station goes against the core of Eve. Yes, high security stations should be safer that low or even null security "public" stations - have a similar Concord presence parallel to FIS. But to be afraid to loose _anything_ once out of the pod?

You're playing the wrong game in my humble opinion.

Meanwhile, CONCORD has no harbored guilty feelings about destroying your suicidal ship, potentially killing hundreds, if not thousands of nameless crew members following a quite safely immortal entity's orders who is then allowed to freely leave the death and destruction behind to continue his or her potential wrath of carnage...

No weapons in WiS. It must be forbidden in WiS by CONCORD and we would be scanned every time we enter public area.
IF there must be the way to kill person that would be personal attacks - brake a neck of person or male attack.
AND it have to be much more heavy sanctioned then in space.

The development team is certainly on the right track, especially when saying things like "we decided to scale down development of avatar based gameplay and focus the bulk of our feature teams on spaceships." If you are only playing EVE because of the possibility that you'll be walking in a station in the future, please find a new game. This game is about spaceships. Keep WiS on the "slow burn", CCP. Actually, I think the game'd be better off if you threw the concept in the trash altogether.

what's a male attack?

remember the eve forever or eve a future vision trailer where that chick shoots the guy dead?
1. that guy would wake up in his clone "welp i shoulda been hiding in my cq"
2. if it was in a hisec station, security drones or whatever would shredded that girl immediately after aggression. she would wake up in her clone and say "capping that a-hole was totally worth it".

that is how wis should be, not your "male attack" petting zoo. being in a safe zone would limit your game functions to the very basic. the cq is the equivalent of ship spinning.
you shall not be allowed to lisp without risk.

so?

remember the eve forever or eve a future vision trailer where that chick shoots the guy dead?
1. that guy would wake up in his clone "welp i shoulda been hiding in my cq"
2. if it was in a hisec station, security drones or whatever would shredded that girl immediately after aggression. she would wake up in her clone and say "capping that a-hole was totally worth it".

that is how wis should be, not your "male attack" petting zoo. being in a safe zone would limit your game functions to the very basic. the cq is the equivalent of ship spinning.
you shall not be allowed to lisp without risk.

Oh, and btw, did y'all mean "Melee attacks", because "male attack" sounds
like a kick to the groin or something, and I dont want that.

I'll be NOT worrying about this at all till I see Skillbooks for Karate, Knives and Handguns.

"Grenade Skill allows 1000m greater tossing distance per level."