yeah... non pvp WiS is entirely unappealing

I think you are just risk averse and unfortunately most of eve can't be appealing to you.

Ohhh, like we're supposed to believe your characters are doing all kinds of PvP action in-game. Typical troll alts made specifically to pad the CSM vote and troll these forums. Your characters rarely ever enter the game.

Just letting you know that if CCP does make WiS PvP available, my team of AAA's (Avatar Attack Alts) will be camping out your CQ doorsteps.

Eve is a game about spaceships & explosions.

Unless WiS suddenly becomes a TPS/FPS with pulse-pounding action & buttloads of explosions for hours on end, flying around in a spaceship is going to take more priority in a game set in space featuring spaceships.

AAA that's pretty clever.

There were some pretty cool things at one of the Fanfest's that was showing off some mini games in station. There was some kind of TBS game game that was like Chinese Checkers for EvE as well as a couple of other things. Those are more than welcome to be in stations, but we still need really good EvE centric gameplay to go with it. In other words, shooting people.

I remember back in the day when I played Asherons Call, they introduced these Chess boards in certain places in the world and you and another person could play against each other. The peices you used were representations of the creatures you killed in the game and the Chess board was life sized. It was fun on the PvP server, running up to someone playing chess and laying waste to their body with a flurry of daggers.

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This.
Every time I see WiS people crying about their side game getting cancelled, I start hearing Charlie Sheen quotes. CCP deciding to work on WiS at this point is about as realistic as his claims.

Look, I know you all arent gonna realize this, but Ill take another stab at it anyways.

THE ONLY REASON WE FINALLY GOT WIS IS BECAUSE OF WoD.

WoD got SHELVED
WiS Got SHELVED

Its NOT a gigantic logical leap here guys n gals. WiS was Beta for WoD.

Check this out, I even have LINKS that support that claim
http://www.wodnews.net/Home/tabid/41/ctl/ArticleView/mid/401/articleId/69/New-WoD-MMO-info-from-The-Grand-Masquerade.aspx

They felt there was a reason to REASSURE THE WoD ppl that the engine in Incarna WASNT what was gonna ship with THEIR MMO

Now that WoD isnt coming out any time soon theyre not working on WiS. Hell they announced the "back burner"ing of both projects on the same day. They could have at least pretended there wasnt a connection but they didnt lol

Now I get that a lot of this delusional WiS crowd hasnt been in EVE long as they "Just signed up for WiS", but CCP has a track record. When they stop work on a feature. They dont go back to it. See Faction Warfare and a slew of others.
WiS will be worked on again when WoD is being worked on again, and not before.

WOD is still having a 60 men dev team working on it as i recall it right.
Some interview with Hilmar i think,where Hilmar was talking about WOD

So pls don,t repeat old trolls and make one of your own

Im still waiting for someone to explain how WiS will add to my gameplay experience in any way at all. From what has been said, it sounds like a horrific crossbreed of Club Penguin, Red Light District and Facebook Poker.

Why would you want to inflict that monstrosity upon other players?

And before you all start saying "well you can just turn off the Club Red Light Poker", CCP actually have to develop it first. To put it in words you might understand, its Opportunity Cost, just like the idiot free mineralists. If CCP spend the thousands of man hours required to make WiS 'work', that is thousands of man hours that are not being spent on fixing Eve. You know, that spaceship game we all play, and most of us have subs for. With spaceships.

Anti-WiS people are not selfish, it is actually the WiS crowd who want to deprive the community of a huge range of potential fixes and expansions to existing content, because they want to tie up CCP producing what will inevitably be a steaming pile of horse faeces for months and months. The player base would benefit from the game itself being fixed and improved, not some flashy gimmick.

However, if CCP did ditch WiS, and instead allowed us to use the Avatar technology (or whatever it is called) to use our capsuleers in Dust... all would be forgiven.

So...what's the plan for WiS?

(...)

On that vein, how about where you could interact with your crew in some way?

How's that for awesome?

So pls don,t repeat old trolls and make one of your own

a.) how old is that "troll" you are quoting out of curiosity?
b.) The language used in that link shows them playing down Incarna as a prototype

"Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced."

Like theyre trying to calm the prople who are interested in WoD after the uproar here

c.) the part wheer everyone though it was "shelved" was from a announcement BY CCP using the language "shelved" themselves (Im sure someone can find it, Ive been out of the game pretty much since this all happened and wouldnt know where to look anymore). So talking like its just us WiS haters screaming about nothing is misleading as well.



Yes, please prove that it was ONLY WiS ppl that left.
Ill wait. Cause there still seem to be plenty here otherwise this thread would die

It sort of boggles my mind that people put so much worth in their avatars. This isn't a beauty pageant game. Sure, your avatar can be considered a calling card in some fashion I suppose. But most of them are so similar that uniqueness is lost (how many guys in shades and leathers can you look at before they begin to blend?). Myself, I keep them turned off in chats because they take up too much room and they don't really mean much. Your ship is the important thing. If the design team had focused on ships and modifications that could be bought with AUR, the stuff would have flown off the virtual shelves. Puttings fins or extra engines on ships, different paint jobs, design motifs. THAT would have been awesome.

I understand different people put value in different things. Personally, i don't see any value added to the game from WiS gameplay. By and large, it is my opinion that people don't want to sit around a virtual bar shooting the breeze in a game that is by and large about spaceships and fitting and flying them and the industry that goes with it. If they do, they should consider playing a different game, because this one can't be EVERYthing. It has a focus and a purpose already. I don't need to walk around a station to get things done when I have buttons for them on my Necom. I don't need a way to trade illegals when there isn't much purpose to them. If that changes in the future, cool. But it still doesn't have much to do with WiS.

From what I've seen so far, WiS doesn't really have much to do with DUST either.


My .02 ISK for your consideration.


In any case, I am definitely thankful for those working on the UI! <3

Wow, so many incorrect statements due to misinformation I almost feel sorry for you.

Allowing ships and modifications to be sold in the NEX Store was one of the major complaints players raged about during the Jita Riots. Hence the term 'Gold Ammo' and 'Gold Ships'. Basically it would be exploitation of a 'pay to win' option bypassing the market and player ability to do invention and production. The option to paint or have corp logo placed on ships could be sold thru the NEX Store but it would have to be an unlimited use option. Players are not going to pay for that each time they replace their ships.

CCP has stated from the very beginning that Eve Online is more than just a spaceship simulator. CCP's vision is a SyFy virtual reality which includes Avatars and WiS content. PI and DUST514 is the planetside ground base aspect of this SyFy virtual reality. Nobody is being forced to participate in WiS content. That was another big issue during the Jita Riots which was corrected.

Just because WiS doesn't fit into your idea of game play, that's no reason to tell players to go to another game. If you don't like the way how Eve Online is evolving, maybe you should consider going to another game. I for one would much rather have the option to hang out in a virtual bar shooting the breeze with other players than sit alone in the docking bay spinning ships.

Bottom Line: with the introduction of avatars into this game, an entire range of absolutely awesome possibilities of game play were introduced also. A type of multidimensional game play can take form in this game now to a degree that was never possible before, no matter what way you look at it. Just look at fanfest and their idea with having avatars explore sleeper ruins. That, in itself, is an awesome concept of game play while using avatars. I would even be absolutely ecstatic if they let my avatar have a gun and battle armor so that I can fight in stations and in ruins also. This would make the game complete for me, and I would never take a hiatus from eve again if it were introduced (I know Dust might take over this instead, but that's just my opinion anyway).

This is not to mention that the introduction of avatars makes the game just that much more immerse for such a large portion of the player base. Here's the thing that I don't understand, though. This is a sandbox. It is advertised as a sandbox. The entire point of this game is that it is a huge sandbox. Then why are you people trying to make me play the game your way? If I choose WiS over FiS, then that is my decision so that I can have fun in the sandbox. Quite honestly, if you disagree with that, you can shove it.

the wis and wod connection are one of the repeating trolls here ,like all the other ones

again... so long as I can shut it off

cause if you cant then YOURE making ME play the way YOU want to which by your own argument is wrong

again... so long as I can shut it off

cause if you cant then YOURE making ME play the way YOU want to which by your own argument is wrong

Is there any other part of EVE you can shut off? Can I shut off gate camps?

Why would you want to shut anything off? Just dont paticipate if you don't like it.

You're not making much sense.

cause if you cant then YOURE making ME play the way YOU want to which by your own argument is wrong

Wow, so many incorrect statements due to misinformation I almost feel sorry for you.

No need. I wasn't speaking of a pay to win system, simply SHIP cosmetics rather than buying monocles and boots with higher heels.