Can you show us an diploma or some medal or other kind of prize you won ? Please ????

The fact that CCP decided to shelve Dress-Up Dolls in favor of actual Eve-related content is all the proof you need.

All the work is still there but with avatars being on the backburner for the time being and the focus being on spaceships, things in this area will happen slowly.

But it sounds to me that you guys generally like the new creator but are asking for more distinct varieties between bloodlines and perhaps special stuff for each one. I'm fairly certain that can be accomplished more easily in the new character creator than it could be in the old. In fact, if I have understood the guys working on the new creator, the old one simply could not be developed further. It was one of the oldest piece of technology in the game (since 2002 or so) and was in dire need of a revamp.

For example the option of giving your character a new haircut or dress it differently simply didn't exist in the old character creator - only a full remodeling was available (for a price). And adding that functionality would probably have taken a longer time than writing up a new one.

I'll make sure that the people that are still working on avatar get this feedback.

PS - I'm so much cooler now than I was before

That doesn't mean that it is shelved or that they will never come back to it.

Which is why we must be vigilant and make sure that CCP doesn't stray again.

Again, CCP Please at least address the issue in this thread. Clarify the future of ambulation in Eve!

Issler

As some of us want WiS, we need to be vigilant in the right way. When CCP focused almost entirely on WiS and abandoned FiS, that was bad. But its just as bad to abandon WiS. What is needed is balanced iteration of all features.

We need to be vigilant that no feature is abandoned. Hence this thread.

WiS isn't a feature that is relevant to internet spaceships.

WiS isn't a feature that is relevant to internet spaceships.

It's a feature relevant to eve.

Otherwise it would never have been developed.

And how did that work out for the game?

And how did that work out for the game?

Get an immagination fool.

As for that i cant really answer.. But it doesnt seem it done any harm to EVE.

I bet the employees that lost their job would agree with you.

It's funny how most of the arguments from WiS haters amounts to nothing more than 'OMG IT"S NOT SPACESHIPS THEREFORES I HATEZ IT'.

Get an immagination fool.

.....and all your moronic arguments amount to...." please CCP, abandon everything that made EVE online the great game it is, for a wildly unpopular and unproven system that will allow me to play space dress ups with my friends...even though this has caused many job losses, many people to quit the game, the first decline in numbers ever at expansion time...i dont care about that...I WANNA DRESS UP MY AVATAR !!!!!!!! "

It's funny how most of the arguments from WiS haters amounts to nothing more than 'OMG IT"S NOT SPACESHIPS THEREFORES I HATEZ IT'.

Get an immagination fool.

.....and all your moronic arguments amount to...." please CCP, abandon everything that made EVE online the great game it is, for a wildly unpopular and unproven system that will allow me to play space dress ups with my friends...even though this has caused many job losses, many people to quit the game, the first decline in numbers ever at expansion time...i dont care about that...I WANNA DRESS UP MY AVATAR !!!!!!!! "

I got no problem with WIS as long as:

1) it never COMPROMISES FIS development again like it has for the last 2+ years
2) it always remains OPTIONAL like CCP promised us.
3) A NEX store MT never provides an in-game advantage, be it golden ammo, or FIS-usable items players did not create.

Other than that, you can play space-Barbie dress-up all you want for all I care.

Again, see how the barely incoherent arguments against WiS amount only to rhetoric, finger pointing, and breath holding.

Nobody is wanting Incarna to be about playing dress ups.

Incarna was the latest in a long series of mistakes that caused subscribers to drop and the resulting job loss. Attributing the drop in subscribers as being sorely due to Incarna - whilst making for great (albeit simplistic) rhetoric - is lazy analysis.

Nobody is asking that CCP abandon anything, quite the contrary actually.

You are indeed asking CCP for WiS, which would, again require them devoting time and resources to developing it, which would in turn require them to pull people from FiS to work on WiS...unless they want to hire a whole new team to work on WiS, some how i dont think they will.

As for the drop in subs due to INCARNA...for me personally and the other people i know who left, all th other stuff made me angry, but, it was the amount of time and resources used to take EVE in a direction neither they nor i wanted to have any part of, if this is the direction EVE is headed, im outties, and so were they.....thankfully CCP has re-focused back to what made EVE great.

As to the "dress up" thing...give me one instance where WiS is of any benefit to the core play of EVE, just one.....how is it helpful to shooting other peoples spaceships ?
Do you just want to walk around a station ? do you just want to come face to face with your friends avatars ? SWTOR has all that, maybe you'd be better of there.

This guy gets it.