Try neuting your target.

You also better make your suggestions in Features & Ideas Discussion.

Nah i wanted to discuss webs before making a more defined suggestion.

You already have it, and it's a good one. Buff single web, but with high stacking penalty. The current "dual web or nothing" mentality is ample proof why this is needed.

Nah i wanted to discuss webs before making a more defined suggestion.

use daredevils, vigilants, etc.

Also, fitting stabs, won't help against scrambler shutting off mwd

Using ridiculously expensive ships isn't a solution to webs being bad.

Wait am I getting this right?

People are complaining about webs being too weak?

Target painter adds about 45% to sig radius which makes it 3 times weaker than a web for turret tracking issues.

60% velocity removal is over half the speed, yes the webs were nerfed bad but it was due, rapiers already make kiting impossible, with 80% velocity factor with 2 webs is plenty.

Do you people seriously need to bring target to a dead stop so you can kill it?
Stop flying slow armor battleship blobs if you can't handle 1 frigate.

Go back to flying rifters and learn to pvp.

Using ridiculously expensive ships isn't a solution to webs being bad.

What about removing the stacking penalty on the first 3-5 webber drones?

... No seriously

christ as if having the option of 60% webs on rapiers with 100km range with links or faction webs....
i would think a nerf to web strength and maybe even range is more balanced than the other way around.
Also nerf the pirate bonus 90% webs are insanely OP.

All you need is a combo of geddons/curses, arazu/lachesis, Rapier/Huginn, and even a basic link as optional and you can control a fight upto 40km quite easily. which i think is a little OP really

even EAF have the range to do the job

Also my idea is to add a 20km 30% strength web.

Now kiting ships can be slowly reeled in by some brawlers. However those brawlers than fit these webs will have a competitive disadvantage over close range brawlers that carry 60% webs, since you would need two of these long webs to properly catch a fast ship or give up your scram for a long point, also they use more CPU/Cap.

So now even a oversized ab ship will stay in a semi competitive speed with brawler mwd ships for longer, meaning your tengu can't outrun an entire gang. Also they won't be the ultimate brick wall for people trying to burn back to gate like boosting normal webs.

Rofl, are you terrible or something?


Brawlers reeling in kiters? Show me on the doll where the pro kiter touched you (and your pathetic gang).

this game is balanced for blob vs blob, not 1 vs 1

In case of 1 vs 1, web is definitely too weak. But in blob vs blob, web is just fine

Also my idea is to add a 20km 30% strength web.

Now kiting ships can be slowly reeled in by some brawlers. However those brawlers than fit these webs will have a competitive disadvantage over close range brawlers that carry 60% webs, since you would need two of these long webs to properly catch a fast ship or give up your scram for a long point, also they use more CPU/Cap.

So now even a oversized ab ship will stay in a semi competitive speed with brawler mwd ships for longer, meaning your tengu can't outrun an entire gang. Also they won't be the ultimate brick wall for people trying to burn back to gate like boosting normal webs.

Because i think they were, the only problem with web strength before was the fact that two would be 99%, we only have a few whips with bonuses to make that a reality now and they can still miss with some turrets and some ranges.

normal ships however, two 60% webs is only 80% and speedy ships can still very easily avoid damage.

Im not saying bring back 90% webs, im saying make ONE web 70-80% but the second and third add less so the multiple effect is similar to now without having say 3 webs make over 90% +/-.

currently a signle web for a precious mid at only a max of 60%.... is a bit lame for anything that fights under 5k and the damned webs only go to 10km anyway!