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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 01:52:00 -
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While the rest of us still sruggle on trying to earn isk in T1 battleships by npcing etc
the mega rich in eve befit again with being able to by their new toys while the rest of us sit back and get ganked by them  .
Take from the rich and give to the poor Robinhood style 
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DrakeZakharov
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Posted - 2005.12.05 01:58:00 -
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The mans got a point ...
CCP keep adding to the top end ... but to be honest they can't really expand the bottom end content aside from better missions ... ie ones that i give a rats ass about the outcome of.
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.12.05 01:58:00 -
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bs costs 105 mil your saying u cant make 10 mil for a t2 frig?
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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:00:00 -
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nope I'm saying after playing eve for over a year there would still be no way i could afford say a T2 battlecruiser let alone afford to lose 1.
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:05:00 -
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I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
 Originally by: Kage Getsu
I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Hobblin I on 05/12/2005 02:08:09
Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
Originally by: Kage Getsu
I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret
He said a billion in 3 weeks..
You just need carebear alts.
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Getsu
I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
macro miner?
lol kidding
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
3 billion a week wanna let me in on you secret
No, only one billion for three weeks of work. And it's nothing special, just running missions and picking up every bit of loot. In addition to the mission rewards and the bounties, you get a lot of minerals, the occasional item you can sell for a bunch of money, and there are also a few nice, high-value offers you can get at pretty low LP totals.
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:10:00 -
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a bil isk per 3 weeks isnt hard
thats only 50mils a day
assume by not lazy u mean 10h a day play, thats only 5mils an hour
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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hobblin I
Edited by: Hobblin I on 05/12/2005 02:08:09
Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
Originally by: Kage Getsu
I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret
He said a billion in 3 weeks..
You just need carebear alts.
Ah ok so I have to pay ccp for a lot of alt accounts for the privilege
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Rich Head
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:11:00 -
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Not another Macro Miner.....
I've been playing over a year...had the cash...lost the cash....
I agree though, instead of increasing t2 ships or other high skill ships why not release another load of t1 frigs and cruisers?
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:11:00 -
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many of the new ship will be affordable (well, depending on what you definition of 'affordable' and 'elite' are).
you are forgetting that with mk2, the ships 'below' the 'elite' ones are all going to be MUCH better then anything that the 'elite' had available to them when they were coming up. a rifter with 3 mids and 3 lows? wtf, that's practically better then a claw (actually is in some ways). 
also - there was no where near the way to make so much isk even a year ago. (at least not that weirda knew about) 
all in all - guess it just a matter of perspective. the thing that weirda like most about what seeing in RMR is that there IS something for everyone... solo players... small gangs... big fleets... 
anyhow - really looking forward to it!
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
Ah ok so I have to pay ccp for a lot of alt accounts for the privilege
No, read my post. I have only one character. The two alts I have on this account are some character generation tests I've made, and can't actually make money.
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Kurtz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:19:00 -
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Project rebirth is something that is not only for the rich and high skill point players. The skill to perform rebirth, appears to be a rank 1 with no prerequisites. I am unsure of the ISK costs to create other clones of your main, but I suspect it will be as much as a current clone of your skill points.
You won't have to use a Battleship all the time either. The MK-II revamp of all the tech-1 ships make these ships viable again, and they are far cheaper than a tech-2 ship, in additonal to all ships are getting max hit point upgrades.
That crazy damage control module you all have been receycling forever. Stop! I hope you saved a few, because damage control is going to be a popular fitting.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:43:00 -
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It gives you a goal to work towards
Ive played for over 3 years and i doubt ill beable to afford a T2 BC right away, nor a carrier or a titan or a mothership. Does that mean i dont want them added? hardly.
Besides, with all the new bps being offered the chance of getting lucky is back and maybe, just maybe ill get a bpo and beable to afford those snazy new ships after all.
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Originally by: Oveur
To the nerfmobile!
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
nope I'm saying after playing eve for over a year there would still be no way i could afford say a T2 battlecruiser let alone afford to lose 1.
Then you need to rethink how you're playing the game if you can't make that kind of money, and you want those kinds of toys.
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:37:00 -
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The MK2 changes are not for the rich elite.
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MWEI
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:37:00 -
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How much money you can make is just dependant on how much spare time you have, so while skills are balanced for everyone, money is not
If I play 4 hours a day on weekdays and 10 hours a day on weekends I can make a billion in 1.5 weeks, unfortunately I dont have so much time at hand :(
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Pointless Vengence
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:41:00 -
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This is a MMORPG . . . the key lettrs there are the MMO. I remember when T2 ships first came out and people were complaining about their avaliability. They were easy to come across if you were part of a corporation or were properly networked. While some were whining that they weren't avaliable others were getting access to them on a regular basis. Same goes for all other ships.
If you want something top of the line you have to play The Game. Not just the complexing/mining/missioning aspect of the game. Any idiot in a cruiser can do that. . . I'm talking about the MMO aspect. Make connections. . .join a larger corp. . .become someones lacky. Work your way up the food chain to access the proper resources.
The reality is that if you can't find a corp to help you reach your goals within Eve then you are doing something wrong. If you find yourself in a dead end then you need to seriously rethink your strategy and avatar development to make yourself useful to others. This game isn't about solo play . . . its about interactions. People are resources in Eve. They are a resource and you are a resource. Anyone who cant accept that and continues to whine about well connected players should seriously think about leaving the MMO world and go back to playing solo on their Xbox.
-Pointless
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Mak'shar Karrde
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Posted - 2005.12.05 04:34:00 -
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I can't wait to fly the new re-worked Cyclone. A lot of the other ships I like are being changed too (mostly for the better). While it may not be the same as a complete new ship to play with, it's still an improvement on the current ones.
I really don't care that the Tech II's are out of my reach for now, so long as they don't make the mistake of giving them an i-win button. I also get full insurance and don't have to put my name down on a three month waiting list for a replacement ship, which is nice. I can still contribute effectively in a group.
Once I have my agents sorted out (I plan to cycle 3 or 4 level 3 agents to get the good rewards) money should be free flowing. (Need to find more time to play first though...)
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.05 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: DrakeZakharov
The mans got a point ...
CCP keep adding to the top end ... but to be honest they can't really expand the bottom end content aside from better missions ... ie ones that i give a rats ass about the outcome of.
That's right, they can't rebalance all the existing ships, or add t2 cruisers which you can fly after only a few months... or... oh wait yes they can/are.
As a still somewhat new, only 3 1/2 month old player, I'm not sure what you're complaining about, it's not like newer players can't go right for a BS, or work on skills and fly t2 ships. I can only now fly a Harpy decently. Maybe in a couple months I'll beable to fly a HAC or interdictor, ofcourse I could still learn to fly inties if I want...
Or I could try different cruisers, since I've only used the caracal... never used indies, or mined... There's more **** to do than I can keep track of. Sure the 'rich' will be the ones buying the new T2 BCs, but those who want to wait a month or 2 for prices to drop to sane levels will beable to park their HACs and try the other t2 cruisers, or t2 destroyers... miners can use the barges...
Sure, I'd like to fly a carrier (IN EMPIRE DAMNIT ), and it's way out of my reach, but so what? There's alot of groups out there who want/need such things. RMR is adding content for new and old players alike, so calm yourself.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.12.05 06:39:00 -
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If you're having a hard time financing battleships even, then my guess is that you're trying to play this game pretty much alone. None of the new ships is going to be of any use for you, if you're the kinda player I think you are. It is time for you to join a cool corp or something.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
Originally by: Hobblin I
Edited by: Hobblin I on 05/12/2005 02:08:09
Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
Originally by: Kage Getsu
I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret
He said a billion in 3 weeks..
You just need carebear alts.
Ah ok so I have to pay ccp for a lot of alt accounts for the privilege
Basicly... no, AND yes...
By having an alt you would be able to make "double the isk".. its up to you if you wanna waste you real life money on buying yourself an alt...
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:15:00 -
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Just get a good agent and do level 3 or level 4 missions and you will get your money. Also invest in the skills that increase loyalty points and it will help you even more.
Russo - CEO Amarria Auxilia
XL pod for an XL personality
'Russo, what exactly do you feed your ego to keep it that big?.'
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System God
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:21:00 -
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i only read the first guys post
but its called END GAME people who can afford them have been playing for a while and have good skill points , that means they have isk , CCP knows any good games rely on end game content . the end game being t2 ships or anything that will keep the players of old paying there bill and having fun doing so
i only got 400k sp and even i know it takes a while to get to anything good in this game being able to have a better ship for one would keep me podding people for w hile its the reason i play this game and the only one . is for PVP i want nothing more then to kill others. its fun and very entertaining
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:32:00 -
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Indeed, I am one of the rich elite.
You are merely a pawn for my amusement, to kill on a whim when my golden mitt depresses the "I win" button.
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Emperor Coth
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Posted - 2005.12.05 08:01:00 -
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ccp allows isk sales and macromining
do you think they give a rats ass about corporate dominance? the nerfing of components from Level 4 missions, and placing them solely under the domain of the alliances which *****ed and moaned until they got what they want, is a clear indication of ccps pandering nature. Their ultimate aim, is to have superrich corporations drive the game, and the rest of the players slaving over missions and other pathetic bs, because everything else is bought and completely controlled(T2 BPO lottery for example)
if everyone had the potential to be rich, then noone would find a reason to be a corporate slave.
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Ahop Yol
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:05:00 -
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1.5 billion in 3 weeks ?! HOW!? I am able to put in a lot of play time doing level 3 or 4 missions but even so, I NEVER see that amount of cash in such a short space of time. Seems to me like only those with a T2 BPO make enough money to do what they want. The rest of us slave away, just about sustaining ourselves.
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Alex Harumichi
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Indeed, I am one of the rich elite.
You are merely a pawn for my amusement, to kill on a whim when my golden mitt depresses the "I win" button.
Flawless victory! 
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