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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 01:52:00 -
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While the rest of us still sruggle on trying to earn isk in T1 battleships by npcing etc the mega rich in eve befit again with being able to by their new toys while the rest of us sit back and get ganked by them .
Take from the rich and give to the poor Robinhood style 
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DrakeZakharov
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Posted - 2005.12.05 01:58:00 -
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The mans got a point ...
CCP keep adding to the top end ... but to be honest they can't really expand the bottom end content aside from better missions ... ie ones that i give a rats ass about the outcome of.
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.12.05 01:58:00 -
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bs costs 105 mil your saying u cant make 10 mil for a t2 frig?
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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:00:00 -
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nope I'm saying after playing eve for over a year there would still be no way i could afford say a T2 battlecruiser let alone afford to lose 1.
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:05:00 -
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I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
Originally by: Kage Getsu I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret 
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Hobblin I on 05/12/2005 02:08:09
Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
Originally by: Kage Getsu I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret 
He said a billion in 3 weeks..
You just need carebear alts.
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without
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Getsu I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
macro miner?
lol kidding
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Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
3 billion a week wanna let me in on you secret 
No, only one billion for three weeks of work. And it's nothing special, just running missions and picking up every bit of loot. In addition to the mission rewards and the bounties, you get a lot of minerals, the occasional item you can sell for a bunch of money, and there are also a few nice, high-value offers you can get at pretty low LP totals.
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without
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:10:00 -
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a bil isk per 3 weeks isnt hard
thats only 50mils a day assume by not lazy u mean 10h a day play, thats only 5mils an hour
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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hobblin I Edited by: Hobblin I on 05/12/2005 02:08:09
Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
Originally by: Kage Getsu I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret 
He said a billion in 3 weeks..
You just need carebear alts.
Ah ok so I have to pay ccp for a lot of alt accounts for the privilege
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Rich Head
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:11:00 -
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Not another Macro Miner.....
I've been playing over a year...had the cash...lost the cash....
I agree though, instead of increasing t2 ships or other high skill ships why not release another load of t1 frigs and cruisers?
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:11:00 -
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many of the new ship will be affordable (well, depending on what you definition of 'affordable' and 'elite' are).
you are forgetting that with mk2, the ships 'below' the 'elite' ones are all going to be MUCH better then anything that the 'elite' had available to them when they were coming up. a rifter with 3 mids and 3 lows? wtf, that's practically better then a claw (actually is in some ways). 
also - there was no where near the way to make so much isk even a year ago. (at least not that weirda knew about) 
all in all - guess it just a matter of perspective. the thing that weirda like most about what seeing in RMR is that there IS something for everyone... solo players... small gangs... big fleets... 
anyhow - really looking forward to it!
-- Thread Killer (attempt to train verbosity from 4 back down to 1 -- failed) <END TRANSMISSION> |

Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
Ah ok so I have to pay ccp for a lot of alt accounts for the privilege
No, read my post. I have only one character. The two alts I have on this account are some character generation tests I've made, and can't actually make money.
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Kurtz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:19:00 -
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Project rebirth is something that is not only for the rich and high skill point players. The skill to perform rebirth, appears to be a rank 1 with no prerequisites. I am unsure of the ISK costs to create other clones of your main, but I suspect it will be as much as a current clone of your skill points.
You won't have to use a Battleship all the time either. The MK-II revamp of all the tech-1 ships make these ships viable again, and they are far cheaper than a tech-2 ship, in additonal to all ships are getting max hit point upgrades.
That crazy damage control module you all have been receycling forever. Stop! I hope you saved a few, because damage control is going to be a popular fitting.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.12.05 02:43:00 -
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It gives you a goal to work towards
Ive played for over 3 years and i doubt ill beable to afford a T2 BC right away, nor a carrier or a titan or a mothership. Does that mean i dont want them added? hardly.
Besides, with all the new bps being offered the chance of getting lucky is back and maybe, just maybe ill get a bpo and beable to afford those snazy new ships after all.
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Originally by: Oveur
To the nerfmobile!
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk nope I'm saying after playing eve for over a year there would still be no way i could afford say a T2 battlecruiser let alone afford to lose 1.
Then you need to rethink how you're playing the game if you can't make that kind of money, and you want those kinds of toys.
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:37:00 -
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The MK2 changes are not for the rich elite. ________________ "Pain is an illusion of the flesh. Despair is an illusion of the mind." |

MWEI
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:37:00 -
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How much money you can make is just dependant on how much spare time you have, so while skills are balanced for everyone, money is not
If I play 4 hours a day on weekdays and 10 hours a day on weekends I can make a billion in 1.5 weeks, unfortunately I dont have so much time at hand :(
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Pointless Vengence
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Posted - 2005.12.05 03:41:00 -
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This is a MMORPG . . . the key lettrs there are the MMO. I remember when T2 ships first came out and people were complaining about their avaliability. They were easy to come across if you were part of a corporation or were properly networked. While some were whining that they weren't avaliable others were getting access to them on a regular basis. Same goes for all other ships.
If you want something top of the line you have to play The Game. Not just the complexing/mining/missioning aspect of the game. Any idiot in a cruiser can do that. . . I'm talking about the MMO aspect. Make connections. . .join a larger corp. . .become someones lacky. Work your way up the food chain to access the proper resources.
The reality is that if you can't find a corp to help you reach your goals within Eve then you are doing something wrong. If you find yourself in a dead end then you need to seriously rethink your strategy and avatar development to make yourself useful to others. This game isn't about solo play . . . its about interactions. People are resources in Eve. They are a resource and you are a resource. Anyone who cant accept that and continues to whine about well connected players should seriously think about leaving the MMO world and go back to playing solo on their Xbox.
-Pointless
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Mak'shar Karrde
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Posted - 2005.12.05 04:34:00 -
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I can't wait to fly the new re-worked Cyclone. A lot of the other ships I like are being changed too (mostly for the better). While it may not be the same as a complete new ship to play with, it's still an improvement on the current ones.
I really don't care that the Tech II's are out of my reach for now, so long as they don't make the mistake of giving them an i-win button. I also get full insurance and don't have to put my name down on a three month waiting list for a replacement ship, which is nice. I can still contribute effectively in a group.
Once I have my agents sorted out (I plan to cycle 3 or 4 level 3 agents to get the good rewards) money should be free flowing. (Need to find more time to play first though...)
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.05 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: DrakeZakharov The mans got a point ...
CCP keep adding to the top end ... but to be honest they can't really expand the bottom end content aside from better missions ... ie ones that i give a rats ass about the outcome of.
That's right, they can't rebalance all the existing ships, or add t2 cruisers which you can fly after only a few months... or... oh wait yes they can/are.
As a still somewhat new, only 3 1/2 month old player, I'm not sure what you're complaining about, it's not like newer players can't go right for a BS, or work on skills and fly t2 ships. I can only now fly a Harpy decently. Maybe in a couple months I'll beable to fly a HAC or interdictor, ofcourse I could still learn to fly inties if I want...
Or I could try different cruisers, since I've only used the caracal... never used indies, or mined... There's more **** to do than I can keep track of. Sure the 'rich' will be the ones buying the new T2 BCs, but those who want to wait a month or 2 for prices to drop to sane levels will beable to park their HACs and try the other t2 cruisers, or t2 destroyers... miners can use the barges...
Sure, I'd like to fly a carrier (IN EMPIRE DAMNIT ), and it's way out of my reach, but so what? There's alot of groups out there who want/need such things. RMR is adding content for new and old players alike, so calm yourself. ------------------------------------
Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill
Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.12.05 06:39:00 -
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If you're having a hard time financing battleships even, then my guess is that you're trying to play this game pretty much alone. None of the new ships is going to be of any use for you, if you're the kinda player I think you are. It is time for you to join a cool corp or something.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk
Originally by: Hobblin I Edited by: Hobblin I on 05/12/2005 02:08:09
Originally by: Captin ShadowHawk Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/12/2005 02:07:37
Originally by: Kage Getsu I've been playing for a year. If I'm not lazy, I can make a billion in 3 weeks. And that's without being one of the elite. I don't have access to level 10 complexes, or high-quality ores, or a tech II BPO. Or even a battleship BPO.
1 billion in 3 weeks wanna let me in on you secret 
He said a billion in 3 weeks..
You just need carebear alts.
Ah ok so I have to pay ccp for a lot of alt accounts for the privilege
Basicly... no, AND yes...
By having an alt you would be able to make "double the isk".. its up to you if you wanna waste you real life money on buying yourself an alt...
/Mav
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:15:00 -
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Just get a good agent and do level 3 or level 4 missions and you will get your money. Also invest in the skills that increase loyalty points and it will help you even more.
Russo - CEO Amarria Auxilia XL pod for an XL personality
'Russo, what exactly do you feed your ego to keep it that big?.'
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System God
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:21:00 -
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i only read the first guys post
but its called END GAME people who can afford them have been playing for a while and have good skill points , that means they have isk , CCP knows any good games rely on end game content . the end game being t2 ships or anything that will keep the players of old paying there bill and having fun doing so
i only got 400k sp and even i know it takes a while to get to anything good in this game being able to have a better ship for one would keep me podding people for w hile its the reason i play this game and the only one . is for PVP i want nothing more then to kill others. its fun and very entertaining
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.12.05 07:32:00 -
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Indeed, I am one of the rich elite.
You are merely a pawn for my amusement, to kill on a whim when my golden mitt depresses the "I win" button.
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Emperor Coth
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Posted - 2005.12.05 08:01:00 -
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ccp allows isk sales and macromining
do you think they give a rats ass about corporate dominance? the nerfing of components from Level 4 missions, and placing them solely under the domain of the alliances which *****ed and moaned until they got what they want, is a clear indication of ccps pandering nature. Their ultimate aim, is to have superrich corporations drive the game, and the rest of the players slaving over missions and other pathetic bs, because everything else is bought and completely controlled(T2 BPO lottery for example)
if everyone had the potential to be rich, then noone would find a reason to be a corporate slave.
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Ahop Yol
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:05:00 -
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1.5 billion in 3 weeks ?! HOW!? I am able to put in a lot of play time doing level 3 or 4 missions but even so, I NEVER see that amount of cash in such a short space of time. Seems to me like only those with a T2 BPO make enough money to do what they want. The rest of us slave away, just about sustaining ourselves.
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Alex Harumichi
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Indeed, I am one of the rich elite.
You are merely a pawn for my amusement, to kill on a whim when my golden mitt depresses the "I win" button.
Flawless victory! 
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:16:00 -
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Hmmm, Im not mega rich and I dont make much more than 50mil a week however.....
When I started the game, there were 4 races to chose from, loads of T1 frigs, T1 Cruisers, T1 Battle Crusers, T1 Destroyers, T1 BS, 100's of T1 Mods etc etc etc. Missions, complexes, Cosmos, Trading, Mining. I could go on.
Have they suddenly gone from the game, have I missed anything? All the content is there for the new player AND T1 stuff is getting a boost, how many players who can fly the T2 ships are gona suddenly be flying T1 battle cruisers after the patch cause they are 80% cheeper, can be built by anyone and the BPO's can be bought off the market and should be good.
As for the new Carries, Titans etc etc OK they are only gone be flyable by older players cause of the skill reqs and only built by corps cause of the cost of them, but thats the point it gives the older players and corps someting to aim at. The new super ships will be no use to single players anyway, you couldnt leave system, couldnt fuel them and who would you shoot?
Sorry to moan, but people who complain about no new stuff for the newer player anoy me. Everything the newer players need is there, it's up to them to make something of it not CCP, thats the whole idea of Eve.
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ahop Yol 1.5 billion in 3 weeks ?! HOW!? I am able to put in a lot of play time doing level 3 or 4 missions but even so, I NEVER see that amount of cash in such a short space of time. Seems to me like only those with a T2 BPO make enough money to do what they want. The rest of us slave away, just about sustaining ourselves.
I'm not a billionaire and I'm perfectly able to do what I want. Just don't aim for stupid impossible things like owning dreads or stuff like that. Leave that to the grinders or the few lucky T2 BPO owners.
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Coth the nerfing of components from Level 4 missions, and placing them solely under the domain of the alliances which *****ed and moaned until they got what they want, is a clear indication of ccps pandering nature
Wow. And there was me thinking it was because of the concerns of POS owners who had invested a huge amount of isk and time in scanning moons, buying a POS, mining ice, transporting fuel through 0.0, forming trade groups with other POS owners to make the complex reactions, and hauling their finished reactions to factories for completion. To then have mission runners in 0.9 systems given these components by an NPC agent may just have upset theese POS owners who had put such an investment into building these components, and they may have seen this excess supply as a danger to the Tech II component market. But if it's just down to CCP's pandering nature, then I stand corrected...
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.12.05 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn666 bs costs 105 mil your saying u cant make 10 mil for a t2 frig?
This topic is about the new T2 ships, not about bleeding frigates we've had for months/years... It's reasonable to expect T2 battlecruisers to cost twice as much as your average HAC these days (and it'll be even more until the prices stabilize, i.e. couple of months after their release). That's without modules.
--- Ortu Konsinni Chief diplomat - French Force Alliance --- EVE Player Ship Gallery |

Shadowsword
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Posted - 2005.12.05 10:07:00 -
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Of course, and so what? Given their potential, and their probable low offer (long build time) and high demand, an average price of 200-250 millions is what I'm expecting.
But everyone's attention seem to be focused on those ships, and everyone forget about the others.
T2 destroyers, toys for the rich? I'd be surprised if they cost more than 25 millions.
T2 recon ships will probably be in the HAC-price range. Toys for the rich? If you consider a wallet of 100 millions as a sign of being rich, you need to reevaluate your opinions.
I'm not rich, I don't have any BPO, yet I can win easily 2-3 millions/hour. You just need to accept some risk (you known, risk-vs-reward and all that...), and you'll see that in low sec agent rewards are way better, easily double or triple the rewards of 0.8+ agents.
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Waut
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Posted - 2005.12.05 10:21:00 -
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All I know is that Eve would become boring if everyone was able to fly the same ships. I don't think I'll ever fly anything bigger than a BS and I don't really care. More ships = more flavour
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Nyobe
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Posted - 2005.12.05 10:57:00 -
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I'm playing 2 month now, concentrated almost all the time on learnings and i do level 3 missions. I've lost 3 Ferox in the last few Days (due Wars) but i still have something arround 100mio left.
I have a job, i work hard, i still see no cash problems since it will take several month of skilltraining till i could use a "elite" ship properly.
I don't see a problem with earning ISK. If you are lazy, buy GTC, go to ebay or whatever but don't whine and moan ;)
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.12.05 11:43:00 -
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That's why eve is more then your skillpoints, you also need a brain to figure out how to get cash. Cause I'm drop dead poor, cause I keep buying expensive crap lol, but even 200-250mil isn't all that much cash anymore. Is it a respectable loss, well yes, that's why they don't die easy. But they'll be worth it. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2005.12.05 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Feta Solamnia on 05/12/2005 12:13:18 nvm
Originally by: Oveur
I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.
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Talio ZomB
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Posted - 2005.12.05 12:41:00 -
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I would agree with kage, If I went hardcore mission running with my best lvl 4s, then yeah I think 1 bill in 3 weeks is possible. But mission can get tedious and boring. here is some random info.
15klp = +3 implant sells for 30ish mil 30klp = 2* +3 implant sells for 60ish mil
I can make over 30klp easily in a day on my 2 best agents. Assuming I didnt get bored of reciving AEs which are far too common, I get those all the time.
If I solo a GE I make over 25 mil isk and get around 6000+, 8900+ lp from my best agents
I never loot, anymore, I makemore isk and reward by doing another mission rather than spending 1 hour picking up cans which are full of garbage. I would rather rats didnt drop a can unless it had something worth picking up.
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PORTER BRISBONE
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Posted - 2005.12.05 12:57:00 -
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Yuo can trade gamecode for isk. what all older pvper do.
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2005.12.05 13:31:00 -
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I'm only a little over a month old but cant see too much money problems, can pull in 20mil a night if i grind a bunch of lvl3 missions. Much more if i get lucky with the loot.
Hopfully by the time i can fly a HAC or a combat recon ship the "elite" will have moved on to play with other toys so cheaper ships for me :)
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.12.05 14:13:00 -
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If you are a casual gamer like myself you should move to 00 and join an alliance. That will vastly increase your isk/hour rate. You need that to be high if you ever intend on buying the high end stuff without playing as much as a college kid.
However, patches have addressed the non-elite as well. More missions and types in last patch. More still in this one, and POS in empire high end systems with this one and low end ships get beefup. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

Surfie
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Posted - 2005.12.05 15:07:00 -
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<--- 4 billion in 1 month in low sec, pretty much solo. 9m sp character (this is my forum alt...). So dont say 'oooo mommy i cant afford teh carrierz/t2battlecruisa i'll neva get 1' - because you dont put enough effort into your goals. Go to 0.0 Make Isk. Buy big-expensive ships.
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Bracius
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Posted - 2005.12.05 16:44:00 -
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insurance payouts would pretty much fix it I just contributed 0 to this topic :) |

Kaeten
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Posted - 2005.12.05 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Surfie <--- 4 billion in 1 month in low sec, pretty much solo. 9m sp character (this is my forum alt...). So dont say 'oooo mommy i cant afford teh carrierz/t2battlecruisa i'll neva get 1' - because you dont put enough effort into your goals. Go to 0.0 Make Isk. Buy big-expensive ships.
how in hell lol
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Jahlina Kantar
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Posted - 2005.12.05 17:09:00 -
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That is a valid content.
New content, cool things, mini professions, ships all seem to be added at the top end. Eve online keeps becoming more and more geared towards elitism with each expansion. That is, it's moving away from people having to use their brains and creativity. Instead its gearing towards people using their wallets and 2 mining accounts, and being rewarded for afk skilling for x amount of months. I am dreading more tech levels being added to the game. It means the only way to be competetive is to be insanely rich. Rather than being inventive with setups, group play, and tactics.
And yes, I'm disappointed when I see all the new content stuffed up the top, instead of dispersed evenly around the masses. Its not just the cost, but also the skill requirements that are prohibitive. No I dont really want to see every 14day trialer patrolling around in titans and elite craft or anything like that, but I'd sure like to see more mid level content spread around. Perhaps pad out the t1 variety of ships (not just change a few stats on existing cruisers for example). Make new mini professions not only accessible for those who have fleets in their pocket, but potentially for anybody with patience and a bit of brains.
Eve's maturing in to an interesting and diverse game for all. But some recent trends can be a bit worrying.
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Amarthtel
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Posted - 2005.12.05 17:37:00 -
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Work harder and use your brain. Isk is easy to make if you just exploit the possibilities. Consider getting a loan and buying some t2 modules or implants in one region, putting them into an industrial and selling them in another. You can make a LOT of money in a very quick time if you do boring things. Because no one else can be bothered to do them, there will always be room for a hard working entrepreneur to step up and make it big. |

Paimae
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Posted - 2005.12.05 18:06:00 -
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First, half the new t2 ships are geared towards group fighting, i.e. battle cruisers, and many of the others are meant for 0.0 fleets and station/outpost killing, so what are you complaining about. What you are really saying is 'I can't afford ships I wouldn't use for their intended role.'
Second, yes they are giving content to the experienced player because there needs to be more to achieve. There is so much content already for a beginner, plenty of affordable ships, gaining higher level agents, and just generally learning aspects of the game. The long term players need more, otherwise we quit and there is no one to build/sell the 'elite' ships.
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Arti K
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Posted - 2005.12.05 18:33:00 -
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It's balanced.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.05 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Coth ccp allows isk sales and macromining
do you think they give a rats ass about corporate dominance? the nerfing of components from Level 4 missions, and placing them solely under the domain of the alliances which *****ed and moaned until they got what they want, is a clear indication of ccps pandering nature. Their ultimate aim, is to have superrich corporations drive the game, and the rest of the players slaving over missions and other pathetic bs, because everything else is bought and completely controlled(T2 BPO lottery for example)
if everyone had the potential to be rich, then noone would find a reason to be a corporate slave.
Shut the hell up Detaurus/ALTNAME. Why haven't you been forum banned yet for your excessive trolling? ------------------------------------
Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill
Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.05 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 05/12/2005 19:24:03
Originally by: Waut as wel as a pocket battleship for the newer player (tech 1 BS with half the slots, grid, cpu, etc...)
A BS with half the stats/slots would be weaker than a Battlecruiser, and insanely hard to fit, just so you know. BC = pocket Battleship. 
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail I'm only a little over a month old but cant see too much money problems, can pull in 20mil a night if i grind a bunch of lvl3 missions. Much more if i get lucky with the loot.
You're only a month into the game and you're able to do 20mil worth of level 3 missions eh? That's pretty impressive considering that if you haven't trained learning skills, you've had to spend a majority of your time training up toa BC, because a T2 ship isn't possible. Then the fact that your weapon skills would be insanely low...
Mind if I tag along with your 1month old char and see how you're able to do missions so much better than people I've flown with who ave half a year + of game time?
Or are you having others fly with you, helping kill everything, then a smuggler friend bring you drugs and whatnot so you can get the 15-20mil isk 5-6k LP offers done? ------------------------------------
Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill
Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50.
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Edited by: Sillys on 05/12/2005 22:44:13 So, u are alt? Probably your main arranged that u can hunt in 0.0 without beeing harassed by player(s). All my trips to 0.0 ended with loss.
4 billions? Yea, im dreaming about, too ...
Originally by: Surfie <--- 4 billion in 1 month in low sec, pretty much solo. 9m sp character (this is my forum alt...). So dont say 'oooo mommy i cant afford teh carrierz/t2battlecruisa i'll neva get 1' - because you dont put enough effort into your goals. Go to 0.0 Make Isk. Buy big-expensive ships.
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