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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 22:53:00 -
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obviously they won't enhance the fighters, but would carriers get the tank benefits?
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 05/12/2005 23:01:35
They should, theres nothing limiting the siege module to dreads afaik. ------------------
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 05/12/2005 23:01:35
They should, theres nothing limiting the siege module to dreads afaik.
cool looks like carriers are shaping up to be a very useful ship, compared to the dreads that came before
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:03:00 -
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There is on SISI i hear.
The usual making cpu use off the sacle and the giving the ships supposed to use them the ability to fit them for much less. ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:04:00 -
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CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
~General Sobeseki Pawi, HFS Razor's Kiss Strategic Commander, ISC Highguard Fleet
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:08:00 -
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so far, of the devs/BHs i've fought in carriers/moms, none have been using siege modules afaik
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Well it wouldn't matter when they found out. But who knows, maybe it will be allowed to pass.
~General Sobeseki Pawi, HFS Razor's Kiss Strategic Commander, ISC Highguard Fleet
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Well it wouldn't matter when they found out. But who knows, maybe it will be allowed to pass.
it doesn't seem like it would be that unbalancing if they did let it fly, dreads can still fit a bigger tank. From looking at the numbers for carriers it looks like all they will be able to do is a single rep tank for the gal one for example. which with seige is still huge but not as big as some of the duel rep tanks the dreads can pull off
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:14:00 -
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It would certainly add more feel to the mobile POS some of these ships will no doubt be.
Now all they need is a Shield Bubble on Motherships and Titans
~General Sobeseki Pawi, HFS Razor's Kiss Strategic Commander, ISC Highguard Fleet
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Darpz on 05/12/2005 23:24:51
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi It would certainly add more feel to the mobile POS some of these ships will no doubt be.
Now all they need is a Shield Bubble on Motherships and Titans
yah if I get one, it would be rare that it would leave a nearby POS excpt when in transit. I see these as the ultamate terrorism ship. sneak into your enemies system. put up a large full battle POS and move in a few carriers. the enemy can't touch them short of sending half a dozen dreads to take on the POS ( and even then I doubt the dreads tank would hold given the massive amounts of figters, but the carriers can deploy fighter to the control of ceptors and basically shut down that system. Imagine 3 carriers all with a full complement of fighters (45-60 fighters) with a few ceptors to control them.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:27:00 -
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lol single rep tank... A BH/GM/Dev on sisi was in a gallente mothership with a 2x capital + 3x capital remote + 3 gang mods. He tanked 60 BSes + 3-4 dreads in siege mode for well over 40 minutes..... I think he just turned off a couple reppers so we would win as his cap wasnt going down. Then again he did have max skills.
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: SengH lol single rep tank... A BH/GM/Dev on sisi was in a gallente mothership with a 2x capital + 3x capital remote + 3 gang mods. He tanked 60 BSes + 3-4 dreads in siege mode for well over 40 minutes..... I think he just turned off a couple reppers so we would win as his cap wasnt going down. Then again he did have max skills.
I have a strong feeling ccp doesn't want these to be easily killable. (you can't warpscramble the damn things without a interdictor). but all my thoughts are on a carrier, I could care less about a mothership or titan since i'll never fly one. but a carrier is a whole lot more economical. think about it. what would be more benificial to an allaince 1 titan 3 motherships or 50+carriers
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.05 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Darpz what would be more benificial to an allaince 1 titan 3 motherships or 50+carriers
25 dreads or about 400 BSes? ------------------------------------
Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill
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deathfighter
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:03:00 -
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Sorry to be party wrecker but no. Only dreads can use siege modules.
The Naglfar is based on a Matari design believed to date back to the earliest annals of antiquity. While the exact evolution of memes informing its figure is unclear, the same distinctive vertical monolith form has shown up time and time again in the wind-scattered remnants of Matari legend.
Boasting impressive versatility in firepower options, the Naglfar is capable of holding its own against opponents of all sizes and shapes. While its defenses don't go to extremes as herculean as those of its counterparts, the uniformity of resilience - coupled with the sheer amount of devastation it can dish out - make this beast an invaluable addition to any fleet or army.
Special Abilities: 7.5% bonus to Capital Projectile rate of fire per level 5% bonus to Citadel Launcher rate of fire per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Siege Module <<<<<<<<-----------------Sorry!!!!
and siege module requires 10000 cpu (:
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 05/12/2005 23:01:35
They should, theres nothing limiting the siege module to dreads afaik.
On SISI the siege module takes 10,000tf cpu, all dreads except the moros have a note in their descriptions regarding 99% reduction in cpu need for siege modules. Moros can fit a siege mod, so I'm assuming they just forgot to add in the text.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:06:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 06/12/2005 00:06:27 Well, i was right.
On SISI Siege modules now take 10'000tf base.
Dreads have the special ability to equip them for TQ values.
Quote: Special Abilities: 10% reduction in Capital Energy Turret capacitor use per level 5% bonus to Capital Energy Turret rate of fire per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Siege Module
So, no, you cant use them on carriers.
edit: Wow, simultaneous pedantry :o ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Darpz what would be more benificial to an allaince 1 titan 3 motherships or 50+carriers
25 dreads or about 400 BSes?
would take a carrier over a dread anyday of the week.
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TomB
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
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Woopie
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Posted - 2005.12.06 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
Too late?
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.12.06 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Woopie
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
Too late?
damnit... the nerfmobile has arived ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units. |
Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.06 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
this is so going in my sige
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.12.06 01:26:00 -
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"damnit... the nerfmobile has arived "
The change to siege module CPU on SiSi was done way before this thread... couple builds ago, iirc ^^
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.12.06 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: SengH lol single rep tank... A BH/GM/Dev on sisi was in a gallente mothership with a 2x capital + 3x capital remote + 3 gang mods. He tanked 60 BSes + 3-4 dreads in siege mode for well over 40 minutes..... I think he just turned off a couple reppers so we would win as his cap wasnt going down. Then again he did have max skills.
Well considering that Moros and Nyx have the same caprecharge (13.x) and the Nyx just has a bit (well from a relativ perspective) more hitpoints (aswell as more grid), I seriously doubt that it will be the same on TQ. The first dreads on Sisi were quite uber aswell when the devs flew them.
Motherships and Carriers are not something you take directly into the fight.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.06 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Darpz what would be more benificial to an allaince 1 titan 3 motherships or 50+carriers
25 dreads or about 400 BSes?
would take a carrier over a dread anyday of the week.
I would take 10 seige mode dreads over 20 carriers, but that's just me...
...something to do with burst killing most of the carriers before they get into fighter range, and tanking lots of fighters in siege mode easily.
I'm curious to hear the stats/range of fighters. you'd think they'd have blaster-type ranges, which means they'd be in smartbomb range. ------------------------------------
Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill
Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50. |
Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.06 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: Darpz on 06/12/2005 03:56:00
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Darpz what would be more benificial to an allaince 1 titan 3 motherships or 50+carriers
25 dreads or about 400 BSes?
would take a carrier over a dread anyday of the week.
I would take 10 seige mode dreads over 20 carriers, but that's just me...
...something to do with burst killing most of the carriers before they get into fighter range, and tanking lots of fighters in siege mode easily.
I'm curious to hear the stats/range of fighters. you'd think they'd have blaster-type ranges, which means they'd be in smartbomb range.
well they are like a cruiser so it would be like trying to kill a cruiser with a smarty. also on test today the a GM in a Gal mothership (25 fighters) killed a sieged dread. so 3 carriers (45+ fighters) in a POS safe should be able to deal with any amount of dreads comming into system in short order
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.12.06 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
LOL
Never laughed at a nerf nefore ~General Sobe, HFS Razor's Kiss Strategic Commander, ISC Highguard Fleet
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.12.06 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain They should, theres nothing limiting the siege module to dreads afaik.
On SISI the siege module takes 10,000tf cpu, all dreads except the moros have a note in their descriptions regarding 99% reduction in cpu need for siege modules. Moros can fit a siege mod, so I'm assuming they just forgot to add in the text.
Meh, i only looked at the Moros Desc on Sisi. ------------------
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.12.06 07:57:00 -
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Since carriers get no highslots i doubt they will be able to fit one.
Author of "The Apoc Guide" |
keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.06 08:27:00 -
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They get highslots, they just dont get weapon mounts.
How would they equip XL Cap/Shield XFer/Remote Armor/Hull Reps otherwise? ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
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