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SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
15
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:35:00 -
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This makes me really glad I voted for him. Someone calling bullshit on idiots is a vote well spent. |
Trading InJita
Trading In Jita
0
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:38:00 -
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Looser Eto wrote:OK let's see:
1.
CSM Malcanis is a seasoned EVE player and has been voted by the "veteran" pool
2.
Majority of veteran players take advantage of and make money off newbies in a lot of ways:
- Trade window scams
- Margin trading scams (this is an exploit really)
- Numerous contract scams
- Isk doublers
- Mining "permits"
- ...and the list goes on
3.
On top of that, a lot of "veterans" engage in abusive or bullish actions
- Ship bumping
- Ganking (whilst abusing the game mechanics in HS)
- AWOXing with no possibility for anyone to defend
- Verbally abusing & harassing
- Using excessive profanities in in-game chat channels
- Destroying -at the blink of an eye- corporation economies that have taken months and years and lots of people to build
- ... and much much more
4.
CCP does not believe the above behaviors are wrong, because they fall under their own (indeed very unique) definition of "sandbox"
5.
Why would anyone expect Malcanis to be any different from the above? One has to "fit in" in order to survive, even more so to get CSM position.
I'm going to pick this apart, being a veteran player and all. The average newbie doesn't have much isk. I, as a veteran, have much isk. So one with common sense would think "well what's the benefit of someone with much isk taking isk from someone with little isk?" Well you see, it's not really worth my effort. I take advantage of idiots, not noobs. Most veterans actually understand that new players are required to keep this game alive, and are very accommodating to newbies. Willing to teach them, hook them up with free ships (albiet usually fairly cheap ones, but free is free). Ship bumping I partially agree needs some fixes. Namely because it's a warp disruptor without aggression, which can spell death for freighters. As far as all the points in number 3. Welcome to eve.
Edit: Also, just because you declare something an exploit, doesn't make it an exploit. I would agree if there was no way to detect it, no risk involved, etc. However it is very easy to detect by looking at that market history tab. And there is significant risk involved, billions at a time actually. If set up incorrectly a margin scammer can actually get counter scammed. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
1231
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:47:00 -
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Solaris Ecladia wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Bullshit. You got scammed and you're trying to get it declared an exploit rather than admit you got tricked.
You have CSM attached to your name and given your attitude, hopefully not for long! Learn to post with some decorum or give up or position and go back to being just a regular player. (btw, CSM Malcanis' post was not directed at me, but this kind of post by a CSM needs to stop) this kind of post is why i voted for him
Me too.
Directt and to the point and honest.
No whitewashing of facts needed.
Keep up the honesty, Malcanis o7
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse
CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
405
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:21:00 -
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OP, if the use of the word "bullshit" is where you draw the line, you are going to encounter difficulties in EVE Online.
Yeesh, though. Malcanis has managed to harvest more tears with one sentence than I have in the last week of interstellar buggery I normally engage in. Hell I got thanked by the last guy I ransomed. Going to have to run for CSM at this rate.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
349
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:24:00 -
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A thread like a wormhole...
One moment you think something like this couldn't possibly exist, next you know: There it is!
CSM have to sign an NDA not to reveal interna CCP is working on etc.
I haven't read anywhere yet that they are also forced to turn into choir boys with no opinion...
Also "BS"? Really? So offensive? I call BS!
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ImmutableDark
The Church of Awesome
Caldari State Capturing
30
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:26:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Bullshit. You got scammed and you're trying to get it declared an exploit rather than admit you got tricked.
You have CSM attached to your name and given your attitude, hopefully not for long! Learn to post with some decorum or give up or position and go back to being just a regular player. (btw, CSM Malcanis' post was not directed at me, but this kind of post by a CSM needs to stop)
I think he represents the Eve community well when he's being a stupid *******.
Elite Forum Warrior. |
J'Poll
Phoibe Enterprises
2348
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:27:00 -
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And this is why I voted for Malcanis.
Want to have some chat in game?
Need help to get into the game as a new player?
Just join my channel:
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Catastrophe Bloom
MUSE Apprenticeship
Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:30:00 -
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It's interesting how when someone gets offended they find excuses to hold others to a "higher moral standard".
I leave you with my dubious portrait. Good day, sir. |
Shun Makoto
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
16
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:32:00 -
[99] - Quote
He's a player, just like any of us. Do I expect a bit more decorum from the CSM? Perhaps
Do I expect him not to act like a EVE Online player? Not at all.
Caldari Independant Navy Reserve
Fourth District
Patriot Faction
Former 22nd BRDU - Retired Milita Wing Commander
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development
Omnium Libertatem
164
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:36:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:...
I won't be bothering to post something about you using the term bullshit for the very reason you are just some regular old joe-blow poster but CSM Malcanis has an official game recognized title and needs to be held to a higher standard. The standards of CSM is a non-disclosure pact with CCP.... other than that... I don't think there are any mandatory standards.
The following was not Malcanis.
Earlier this year one of the members of this CSM scammed some members out of their Corp using this phrase: ``why wouldnt you trust me im a CSM, I`m not allowed to take part in theft or scam, as I would lose my position``
This is allowed. They are not your representatives, they are not looking out for you, and they have no obligation to be or do anything related to the player base.
I voted for Malcanis because he is knowledgable and he says what is on his mind. He has spoken of his vision for the game and will push for those vision when CCP get their odd ideas. The CSM is there to protect the game. IMO
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Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:07:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Bullshit. You got scammed and you're trying to get it declared an exploit rather than admit you got tricked.
You have CSM attached to your name and given your attitude, hopefully not for long! Learn to post with some decorum or give up or position and go back to being just a regular player. (btw, CSM Malcanis' post was not directed at me, but this kind of post by a CSM needs to stop) Agreed, he is not representing CCP in a good light or the people that he represents.
I thought CSM's were suppose to represent the players when they met with CCP...
Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development
Omnium Libertatem
164
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:11:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:
I thought CSM's were suppose to represent the players when they met with CCP...
Why would you expect a member of the Goonswarm to represent the players... other than his Alliance?
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Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations
Surely You're Joking
192
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:13:00 -
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Well, Malcanis was pretty clear with his post. I would prefer to have a clear, concise answer than some rambling bit of babble trying to get the point across while bending over backwards to not offend anyone.
Since I voted for him, I believe he is representing me just fine. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
544
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:14:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Bullshit. You got scammed and you're trying to get it declared an exploit rather than admit you got tricked.
You have CSM attached to your name and given your attitude, hopefully not for long! Learn to post with some decorum or give up or position and go back to being just a regular player. (btw, CSM Malcanis' post was not directed at me, but this kind of post by a CSM needs to stop)
Bullshit. You missed the fact Malcanis posted like that before getting elected and now try to get him declared a bad poster even after we elected him as a representative knowing full well how he would represent us. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
389
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:16:00 -
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Solaris Ecladia wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Bullshit. You got scammed and you're trying to get it declared an exploit rather than admit you got tricked.
You have CSM attached to your name and given your attitude, hopefully not for long! Learn to post with some decorum or give up or position and go back to being just a regular player. (btw, CSM Malcanis' post was not directed at me, but this kind of post by a CSM needs to stop) this kind of post is why i voted for him
It's why I have him on ignore. 23 year-old that still lives in a 13 year-old world, with the same attitude and lack of wisdom.
And your upvotes show how the CSM is so wrong for EvE, as it turns a game into a Facebook popularity contest. CSMs have no real power in itself, and CCP just gets a messed up game in the process, as dinosaurs refuse to change. Defeats why the CSMs were concepted, and hurts CCP in the end, as the game stagnates.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
433
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:17:00 -
[106] - Quote
Malcanis telling it for what it is and people getting mad over it.
Does being CSM somehow mean they all have to wear suits and end every sentence with the word *sir*? |
RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
212
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:19:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:TBH he's telling it how he sees it. He's not one to mince words on idiots, which is one of the reasons he topped my ballot.
Next he will be telling dumb players to kill themselves isnt that the standard CSM comment.
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
544
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:20:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:
I thought CSM's were suppose to represent the players when they met with CCP...
Why would you expect a member of the Goonswarm to represent the players... other than his Alliance?
He's not in Goonswarm... |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
433
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:21:00 -
[109] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:
I thought CSM's were suppose to represent the players when they met with CCP...
Why would you expect a member of the Goonswarm to represent the players... other than his Alliance? He's not in Goonswarm...
But....But isnt everyone from nullsec in Goonswarm? :/
Youre just trying to confuse me!
GET OUT OF MY HEAD, MITTENMAN! |
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
235
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:21:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Bullshit. You got scammed and you're trying to get it declared an exploit rather than admit you got tricked.
You have CSM attached to your name and given your attitude, hopefully not for long! Learn to post with some decorum or give up or position and go back to being just a regular player. (btw, CSM Malcanis' post was not directed at me, but this kind of post by a CSM needs to stop)
Wait, do you object to his point re: game mechanic/exploit or his language?
If the second ... I don't get why some people attribute magical power to words. Really, no harm was done. Move along.
If the first, he was correct. This is no exploit. Move along. |
Templar Knightsbane
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:22:00 -
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BULLSHIT OP! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
389
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:24:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Malcanis telling it for what it is and people getting mad over it.
Does being CSM somehow mean they all have to wear suits and end every sentence with the word *sir*?
Someone claimed the average age in EvE of it's players is 38 years-old (I'm closer to 50).
Mal is 23, and acts everything like that 13 year-old cousin that visits, that you want to leave like yesterday.
Which shows even on the behavioral level, he's not suited for the job.
And adults don't prefer kids telling them what to do, especially if they're this unwise.
23 year-old competent guy, sure. Someone who has the social skillset to actually be a politician.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
433
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:25:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Someone who has the social skillset to actually be a politician.
But I dont like politicians.
So as a player, Id rather be represented by someone who doesnt act like one |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
10626
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:26:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
I voted for Malcanis because he is knowledgable and he says what is on his mind. He has spoken of his vision for the game and will push for those vision when CCP get their odd ideas. The CSM is there to protect the game. IMO
Actually that part has been a bit disappointing. The CCP people we've been dealing with are irritatingly unwilling to come up with horrible ideas for me to hate on.
Luckily, there's always the EVE-forums!
1 Kings 12:11
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
405
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:27:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Malcanis telling it for what it is and people getting mad over it.
Does being CSM somehow mean they all have to wear suits and end every sentence with the word *sir*? Someone claimed the average age in EvE of it's players is 38 years-old (I'm closer to 50). Mal is 23, and acts everything like that 13 year-old cousin that visits, that you want to leave like yesterday. Which shows even on the behavioral level, he's not suited for the job. And adults don't prefer kids telling them what to do, especially if they're this unwise. 23 year-old competent guy, sure. Someone who has the social skillset to actually be a politician.
*sigh* As usual, you are wrong as hell.
Malcanis is good at EVE Online, and has a very good understanding of the game. You are neither.
Furthermore, it's not a job. He doesn't get paid, he wasn't even the chairman.
And, as to your age prejudice... A good idea is a good idea, no matter who it comes from. I pride myself on my intellectual honesty, so if a "kid" (you can replace "kid" with any racial slur to if you like) told me something worthwhile, I'll listen. I don't filter content based on who it comes from, that is just bigotry.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
10626
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:28:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Malcanis telling it for what it is and people getting mad over it.
Does being CSM somehow mean they all have to wear suits and end every sentence with the word *sir*? Someone claimed the average age in EvE of it's players is 38 years-old (I'm closer to 50). Mal is 23, and acts everything like that 13 year-old cousin that visits, that you want to leave like yesterday. Which shows even on the behavioral level, he's not suited for the job. And adults don't prefer kids telling them what to do, especially if they're this unwise. 23 year-old competent guy, sure. Someone who has the social skillset to actually be a politician.
I'm 41, and I'm no politician. I disclaimed any intention to run for re-election in my campaign thread, and I ran on a platform of being exactly who I am, take it or leave it.
1 Kings 12:11
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Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:29:00 -
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Aside from the profanity, I don't see anything wrong with his statement. He's making an assertion about a player that will not admit that he/she has been snookered properly and within normal operating conditions.
Although, I wonder... If any of us regular players said, "Bullshit" or used any other profane words within our posts, even when making valid points, will our threads get locked for cause? If so, then it is inappropriate for him to use profane language in his posts because it is a forum rules violation. He should not get any special perks or treatment and be allowed to use such words when the rest of us cannot.
However, if it ain't against the rules to say "Bullshit" in a thread post, then where's the problem?
So, is it against the rules, or is it not against the rules? Referee? The rule book, please.
Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
389
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:29:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Someone who has the social skillset to actually be a politician. But I dont like politicians. So as a player, Id rather be represented by someone who doesnt act like one
CSMs are politicians. Don't like them, don't vote them in. 
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
10626
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:30:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:
I thought CSM's were suppose to represent the players when they met with CCP...
Why would you expect a member of the Goonswarm to represent the players... other than his Alliance?
Why indeed.
1 Kings 12:11
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Templar Knightsbane
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.07.09 12:31:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:
Which shows even on the behavioral level, he's not suited for the job.
Its not imo a job as such. Its an unpaid position voted for by his peers who im pretty sure are adult enough for someone to say something is bullshit without giving 2 bullshits about.
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