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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:52:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
Constellations with a .5 system and no LS say you're wrong. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15440
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:55:00 -
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SoGǪ everyone's adopted a GÇ£feed it until it explodesGÇ¥ strategy, I take it? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Frank Millar
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:03:00 -
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Way back when I was doing lvl 4's near lowsec I regularly declined missions into lowsec.
My nether regions got all tingly when I was using this exploit.
Ban me, plz. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:13:00 -
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Gee, how about the much better "exploit" of running missions in a 0.5 system that doesn't even have any lowsec nearby? :P http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:37:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Gee, how about the much better "exploit" of running missions in a 0.5 system that doesn't even have any lowsec nearby? :P
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!
Oh...
Oh god..
Does this game get ANY easier?
Why bother having people run missions just hand out ISK...
I am ... I am... no longer playing this game.
but to be fair neither is anyone else... they just hand people things on a silver platter, what ever happened to EVE IS HARD?
At this point even WoW seems more difficult. |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
349
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:42:00 -
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If you almost Vomit over mission runners, FW and moon goo could make you vomit and crap your pants at the same time.
OP needs a bucket or two. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1769
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:48:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Akita T wrote:Gee, how about the much better "exploit" of running missions in a 0.5 system that doesn't even have any lowsec nearby? :P YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! Does this game get ANY easier? That might have been all the rage in highsec ISK-making goodness like 4-5 years ago (and the practice had a mild resurgence when all agents got their quality equalized), but nowadays, that's pretty low on the highsec ISK payday scale. Bottom line, if you feel happy in your pants about the ISK income difference of L4 missions in a 0.5 vs a 0.9 system, then you're most likely highsec small potatoes. Think orders of magnitude better income, not a few percents higher.
EvEa Deva wrote:FW and moon goo P.S. Oh, yes, the moongoo. At least it's not in highsec. But even after the nerfing sessions it's still pretty much a facepalm moment. And I won't even get into the FW machinations I've seen described. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:50:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game.
Can I have your stuff? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:52:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game. Can I have your stuff?
Sure, but it is in low-sec, where nobody will ever go. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:53:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game. Can I have your stuff? Sure, but it is in low-sec, where nobody will ever go.
Great. I live in LS (well, or NPC Null, depending on deployment). Contract to RubyPorto, thankyouverymuch. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1769
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:56:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game. Can I have your stuff? Sure, but it is in low-sec, where nobody will ever go. Is your stuff worth at least 1% of my NAV ? If so, feel free to contract it to me. I don't need to undock to make a profit anyway http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:56:00 -
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I need you to be online I only have 1 contract at a time and stuff in like 54 systems. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:04:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I need you to be online I only have 1 contract at a time and stuff in like 54 systems.
Well, go to. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1769
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:05:00 -
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So you're actually serious ? Ouch. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:14:00 -
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Apparently I'm a dirty exploiter. I put an industrial toon in a station that had distro missions I wanted to do for that corp. Every 15 to 20 missions I would get a delivery to a low sec station. I did some research and found the station belonged to a pirate corp based there. I scouted ahead and found the other side of the gate camped. I went back later and found Nagas camping off the station.
So let me examine what the OP said.
I'm supposed to run the gauntlet of a pirate corp that will start expecting me. Once I die my cargo will be impossible to deliver, so I automatically lose standing, a ship, and possibly training implants ... to get an L4 payout of 300k isk?
You must be out of your frigging mind. I already have to wait 4 hours. Pretty sure its a big enough penalty already. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |
Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:23:00 -
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Ah screw it, I was gonna quit but then I found out Hilmar wears $1000 Pants. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:28:00 -
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All i read was "Waaaaa! Waaaaa! Why don't those highsec carebears lemming single file into my lowsec gatecamp?!"
Answer, they don't want to. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:46:00 -
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Noddy Comet wrote:Hmmm... if this is indeed an exploit, shouldn't this thread be reported for blatantly telling players how to exploit?
If someone finds a exploit then it should be reported to CCP directly, not sharing it on forums.
"Logs show nothing" "Working as intended"
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:50:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Ah screw it, I was gonna quit but then I found out Hilmar wears $1000 Pants.
Yet another quitter, overpromising and underdelivering. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:11:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Ah screw it, I was gonna quit but then I found out Hilmar wears $1000 Pants.
So you quit quitting?
Pro quitting skills there |
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
80
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:58:00 -
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Because I want to see OP's head explode, this:
You can run L4 missions for agents in 0.5 systems and make 20mil an hour totally AFK without even trying and never even get a lowsec mission. In addition, if you are not AFK you are 99.99% ungankable. If you are AFK you're still ungankable by any pirate -5 or less. Even the rats are a joke and easily handled by a few hobs. OP I give you: The Level 4 Mining Mission. You get tons of LP, standing, and a faction mission every 16. Its completely stupid and I would put fixing it way above pilots declining missions in lowsec.
Eve PvE is horrible. News at 11.
Want to bring some risk to those mission runners, scan down their 0.5 deadspace and loot their wrecks and hope they shoot you in their PvE fit boats. Or wait until they bring their salvager in and gank him. I have 5 different chars that I play. This may be my main, or maybe not. I have no idea. |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:02:00 -
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I'm in agreement actually. I believe we should go farther with this.
When our fleet enters a LS or NS system, players already in the system cannot enter a POS or station. Furthermore, they may not leave the system nor log off. I believe the same thing should happen in WH. How are we going to kill people if they do stuff to stay safe? What is EVE coming to if we allow people to take steps to protect themselves?
/end sarcasm |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:10:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote:Apparently I'm a dirty exploiter. I put an industrial toon in a station that had distro missions I wanted to do for that corp. Every 15 to 20 missions I would get a delivery to a low sec station. I did some research and found the station belonged to a pirate corp based there. I scouted ahead and found the other side of the gate camped. I went back later and found Nagas camping off the station.
So let me examine what the OP said.
I'm supposed to run the gauntlet of a pirate corp that will start expecting me. Once I die my cargo will be impossible to deliver, so I automatically lose standing, a ship, and possibly training implants ... to get an L4 payout of 300k isk?
You must be out of your frigging mind. I already have to wait 4 hours. Pretty sure its a big enough penalty already.
Best explanation of why it isn't an exploit to decline missions into low-sec!
If folks want low-sec missions, they will goto low-sec and grab them there.
Besides, payouts for missions is much less than the salvage and killing the rats in them. 1 million ISK with a 1 million time bonus pales to even what the rats offer. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
728
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:06:00 -
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Verunae Caseti wrote:This forum really needs to institute 24 hour to 1 week bans for varying degrees of idiocy. OP would be gone for a month.
permanency gets my vote |
Ilkahn
DisturbedGamers.
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:14:00 -
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What i took away from this is that someone has a pvp ego fueled by killing low skilled new bros in crap fits with no chance and no concept of low sec mechanics. |
Isaak Artorius
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:40:00 -
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"TROOOOOOOLL! IN THE DUNGEON! TROLL IN THE DUNGEON! [Silence] Thought you ought to know. [Faints]"
- Professor Quirrell Blah, blah, blah, I'm super horny. I love EVE and monkeys. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:02:00 -
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I'm petitioning all of you for discussing exploits.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:37:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:I'm petitioning all of you for discussing exploits.
But now you've joined in. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
BiscuitMonsterr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:21:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
rather than factoring the additional risk, people exploit by declining any missions that take them into low-security space.
Of course the poor-state of low-security mechanics would need to be re-worked.
The Gate: Permanently tanking sentry guns is trivial so establishing permanent high scan resolution 80km infinite point camps can be done with month old characters.
The Mission: With proper skills and probing implants It is possible to get warp-able hits at 32 AU probes, this has become incredibly easy with the new mid-slot modules,
What I'd like to see CCP do: Remove all ISK gained from the exploiters. Add E-War to gate guns (ECM, Damps, Disruption, Neutralizer) Require probes to be at 1AU or less before a warp-able hit is possible.
The fact that low-security space is broken, doesn't mean we should allow people to exploit the game.
I never knew this exploit existed before reading this thread. As soon as it sank in, I literally vomited. Unfortunately, I was facing my wife at the time, so I vomited straight into her face. This caused her to vonit in turn, which set out twin children and the nanny off.
Luckily my dog likes to eat sick, so the mess is minimal, albeit smelly, but my whole family is now experiencing terrible stomach cramps. All because of those damn exploiters.
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
706
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:27:00 -
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Totally agree with the OP. To balance it, level 5 agents that are found in lowsec should send you to hisec for the mission, and you shouldn't be able to decline. Eve is Real |
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