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Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:13:00 -
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I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
rather than factoring the additional risk, people exploit by declining any missions that take them into low-security space.
Of course the poor-state of low-security mechanics would need to be re-worked.
The Gate: Permanently tanking sentry guns is trivial so establishing permanent high scan resolution 80km infinite point camps can be done with month old characters.
The Mission: With proper skills and probing implants It is possible to get warp-able hits at 32 AU probes, this has become incredibly easy with the new mid-slot modules,
What I'd like to see CCP do: Remove all ISK gained from the exploiters. Add E-War to gate guns (ECM, Damps, Disruption, Neutralizer) Require probes to be at 1AU or less before a warp-able hit is possible.
The fact that low-security space is broken, doesn't mean we should allow people to exploit the game. |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
551
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:14:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.] Oh my. Have you filed a petition against these dirty cheating scoundrels yet?
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John DaiSho
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
114
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:15:00 -
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Meh...I just dont feel like feeding trolls today, sorry |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15431
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:16:00 -
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Humour. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Dain Highwind
La Isla del Mono
29
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:19:00 -
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Wait who is exploiting? the campers or the mission runners? |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2876
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:24:00 -
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Look! Another "exploit" poast in GD!
I'll just hand this out now.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
403
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:28:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
And the OP doesn't list the consequence for declining such missions, a big minus to standings. Which is one of the reasons to run missions in the first place. 
0/10. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3044
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:29:00 -
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Bored player who shoots everything that moves wants other players arbitrarily forced into his overview. News at 11. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4984
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:31:00 -
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I guess EXPLOIT is the forum buzz word of the week. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
264
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:33:00 -
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The OP's anger made me really, really horny. I know it's wrong, but hope it never stops. |
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rofflesausage
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:35:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
10/10 |

Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
324
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:02:00 -
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yeah CCP needs to improve the exploit so that it actually does induce vomiting. Perhaps adding camera shake when declining a mission would do it. |

stoicfaux
2912
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:11:00 -
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I've changed diapers with more content.
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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
175
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:22:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I guess EXPLOIT is the forum buzz word of the week. That's totally exploiting what I was going to say. |

stoicfaux
2912
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:24:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I guess EXPLOIT is the forum buzz word of the week. That's totally exploiting what I was going to say. Petition it.
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Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
2491
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:25:00 -
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It's only an exploit when they do something that was unintended by the game mechanics. The Drake is a Lie |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2143
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:27:00 -
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Sucks to be the exploited You know... morons. |

Six Six Six
Blood and Decay
188
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:36:00 -
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Hmm... you can't be serious.
Of all the complaints lately this must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
If this keeps up it'll be hardly even worth reading GD. |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
176
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:39:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Hmm... you can't be serious.
Of all the complaints lately this must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
If this keeps up it'll be hardly even worth reading GD. The most important thing I learned many years ago, was that GD on any forum is simply a more structured off-topic forum and should never be taken seriously. |

Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
237
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:59:00 -
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+1 this serious exploit is killing the game! I find it morally disgusting that all all missions don't force people into lowsec! I propose that if you even think about clicking on an agent in station services then you automatically are undocked and autopilot to the nearest lowsec system . These clear exploits make me sick to the fiber of my being and must be stopped immediately.
FYI, agent pay is determined only by level and the truesec of the system the agent is located in, not the system in which the mission is set (could be a good change btw) I don't know why i'm explaining this though, since clearly a troll. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3047
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Posted - 2013.07.11 01:12:00 -
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I'm reminded of a lowsec mission I took from a highsec agent years ago.
No problem really.
Except for my battle cruiser being camped at the station by someone with a Nyx.
I was able to beat him: I didn't give him a target and used an alt for a rapid warp-off point.
Still a bother though.
A Nyx. To kill a BC. Killboards must be like a bad drug to some people. Bad drug as in Meth. The tweaker on that stuff feels like he's on top of the world, but to other (looking at the killboard) we see a dirty loser with rotten teeth (that would be a long KB full of rookie ships and frigs and pods - yeah real leet there buddy).
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3609
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Posted - 2013.07.11 02:36:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote: The Gate: Permanently tanking sentry guns is trivial so establishing permanent high scan resolution 80km infinite point camps can be done with month old characters.
Mind sharing your magical 1 month skill plan to fly a fitted Heavy Interdictor? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
77
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Posted - 2013.07.11 02:50:00 -
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Hmmm... if this is indeed an exploit, shouldn't this thread be reported for blatantly telling players how to exploit? |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1561
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:37:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I want to gank expensive & helpless PVE ships with my special fit PVP ship, and I shall whine until CCP hands those players over to me on a silver platter.
FTFY
Ammatar - Matari by blood, Ammarian by the Grace of God. |

Arkane Mystic
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
15
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:42:00 -
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How is declining a mission an exploit? Sounds more like your whining about not being able to hold your own in low-sec and you want more jucier inexperienced targets. |

Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.07.11 04:35:00 -
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This forum really needs to institute 24 hour to 1 week bans for varying degrees of idiocy. OP would be gone for a month. |

Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
30
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Posted - 2013.07.11 05:12:00 -
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Oh shut up. Honestly, lowsec nubs are in fact the ***** of EVE. Every1 who happens to be better than you is either in null or wormhole space. If your that ballsy, come on out to null/WH space to do you roams. |

Don Purple
Snuggle Factory
19
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:07:00 -
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Bad post. |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
578
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:35:00 -
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OK so mission runners decline missions. Hint: doing that repeatedly tanks your standings and your only real option here is to let the offer expire which takes time. Hardly farmable content.
OK so people camp lowsec gates and they are pretty good at it. It doesn't take too long to train up for it, even.
I'm having serious issues defining the actual problem here really. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10703
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:40:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions) And the OP doesn't list the consequence for declining such missions, a big minus to standings. Which is one of the reasons to run missions in the first place.  0/10.
Although once your faction standing is above 6 or so, the penalty for declining missions is laughable.
That said: I disagree with the premise of the OP.
1 Kings 12:11
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3611
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:52:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
Constellations with a .5 system and no LS say you're wrong. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15440
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:55:00 -
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SoGǪ everyone's adopted a GÇ£feed it until it explodesGÇ¥ strategy, I take it?  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Frank Millar
230
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:03:00 -
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Way back when I was doing lvl 4's near lowsec I regularly declined missions into lowsec.
My nether regions got all tingly when I was using this exploit.
Ban me, plz.  |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1768
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:13:00 -
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Gee, how about the much better "exploit" of running missions in a 0.5 system that doesn't even have any lowsec nearby? :P http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:37:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Gee, how about the much better "exploit" of running missions in a 0.5 system that doesn't even have any lowsec nearby? :P
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!
Oh...
Oh god..
Does this game get ANY easier?
Why bother having people run missions just hand out ISK...
I am ... I am... no longer playing this game.
but to be fair neither is anyone else... they just hand people things on a silver platter, what ever happened to EVE IS HARD?
At this point even WoW seems more difficult. |

EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
349
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:42:00 -
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If you almost Vomit over mission runners, FW and moon goo could make you vomit and crap your pants at the same time.
OP needs a bucket or two. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1769
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:48:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Akita T wrote:Gee, how about the much better "exploit" of running missions in a 0.5 system that doesn't even have any lowsec nearby? :P YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! Does this game get ANY easier? That might have been all the rage in highsec ISK-making goodness like 4-5 years ago (and the practice had a mild resurgence when all agents got their quality equalized), but nowadays, that's pretty low on the highsec ISK payday scale. Bottom line, if you feel happy in your pants about the ISK income difference of L4 missions in a 0.5 vs a 0.9 system, then you're most likely highsec small potatoes. Think orders of magnitude better income, not a few percents higher.
EvEa Deva wrote:FW and moon goo P.S. Oh, yes, the moongoo. At least it's not in highsec. But even after the nerfing sessions it's still pretty much a facepalm moment. And I won't even get into the FW machinations I've seen described. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3612
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:50:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game.
Can I have your stuff? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:52:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game. Can I have your stuff?
Sure, but it is in low-sec, where nobody will ever go. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3612
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:53:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game. Can I have your stuff? Sure, but it is in low-sec, where nobody will ever go.
Great. I live in LS (well, or NPC Null, depending on deployment). Contract to RubyPorto, thankyouverymuch. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1769
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:56:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I am ... I am... no longer playing this game. Can I have your stuff? Sure, but it is in low-sec, where nobody will ever go. Is your stuff worth at least 1% of my NAV ? If so, feel free to contract it to me. I don't need to undock to make a profit anyway  http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:56:00 -
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I need you to be online I only have 1 contract at a time and stuff in like 54 systems. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3612
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:04:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I need you to be online I only have 1 contract at a time and stuff in like 54 systems.
Well, go to. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1769
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
So you're actually serious ? Ouch. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |

DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
125
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Posted - 2013.07.11 08:14:00 -
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Apparently I'm a dirty exploiter. I put an industrial toon in a station that had distro missions I wanted to do for that corp. Every 15 to 20 missions I would get a delivery to a low sec station. I did some research and found the station belonged to a pirate corp based there. I scouted ahead and found the other side of the gate camped. I went back later and found Nagas camping off the station.
So let me examine what the OP said.
I'm supposed to run the gauntlet of a pirate corp that will start expecting me. Once I die my cargo will be impossible to deliver, so I automatically lose standing, a ship, and possibly training implants ... to get an L4 payout of 300k isk?
You must be out of your frigging mind. I already have to wait 4 hours. Pretty sure its a big enough penalty already. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |

Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:23:00 -
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Ah screw it, I was gonna quit but then I found out Hilmar wears $1000 Pants. |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
457
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:28:00 -
[47] - Quote
All i read was "Waaaaa! Waaaaa! Why don't those highsec carebears lemming single file into my lowsec gatecamp?!"
Answer, they don't want to. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:46:00 -
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Noddy Comet wrote:Hmmm... if this is indeed an exploit, shouldn't this thread be reported for blatantly telling players how to exploit?
If someone finds a exploit then it should be reported to CCP directly, not sharing it on forums.
"Logs show nothing" "Working as intended"
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3614
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Posted - 2013.07.11 09:50:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Ah screw it, I was gonna quit but then I found out Hilmar wears $1000 Pants.
Yet another quitter, overpromising and underdelivering. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
225
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:11:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Ah screw it, I was gonna quit but then I found out Hilmar wears $1000 Pants.
So you quit quitting?
Pro quitting skills there |
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
80
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:58:00 -
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Because I want to see OP's head explode, this:
You can run L4 missions for agents in 0.5 systems and make 20mil an hour totally AFK without even trying and never even get a lowsec mission. In addition, if you are not AFK you are 99.99% ungankable. If you are AFK you're still ungankable by any pirate -5 or less. Even the rats are a joke and easily handled by a few hobs. OP I give you: The Level 4 Mining Mission. You get tons of LP, standing, and a faction mission every 16. Its completely stupid and I would put fixing it way above pilots declining missions in lowsec.
Eve PvE is horrible. News at 11.
Want to bring some risk to those mission runners, scan down their 0.5 deadspace and loot their wrecks and hope they shoot you in their PvE fit boats. Or wait until they bring their salvager in and gank him. I have 5 different chars that I play. This may be my main, or maybe not. I have no idea. |

Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
204
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:02:00 -
[52] - Quote
I'm in agreement actually. I believe we should go farther with this.
When our fleet enters a LS or NS system, players already in the system cannot enter a POS or station. Furthermore, they may not leave the system nor log off. I believe the same thing should happen in WH. How are we going to kill people if they do stuff to stay safe? What is EVE coming to if we allow people to take steps to protect themselves?
/end sarcasm |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:10:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote:Apparently I'm a dirty exploiter. I put an industrial toon in a station that had distro missions I wanted to do for that corp. Every 15 to 20 missions I would get a delivery to a low sec station. I did some research and found the station belonged to a pirate corp based there. I scouted ahead and found the other side of the gate camped. I went back later and found Nagas camping off the station.
So let me examine what the OP said.
I'm supposed to run the gauntlet of a pirate corp that will start expecting me. Once I die my cargo will be impossible to deliver, so I automatically lose standing, a ship, and possibly training implants ... to get an L4 payout of 300k isk?
You must be out of your frigging mind. I already have to wait 4 hours. Pretty sure its a big enough penalty already.
Best explanation of why it isn't an exploit to decline missions into low-sec!
If folks want low-sec missions, they will goto low-sec and grab them there.
Besides, payouts for missions is much less than the salvage and killing the rats in them. 1 million ISK with a 1 million time bonus pales to even what the rats offer. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
728
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:06:00 -
[54] - Quote
Verunae Caseti wrote:This forum really needs to institute 24 hour to 1 week bans for varying degrees of idiocy. OP would be gone for a month.
permanency gets my vote |

Ilkahn
DisturbedGamers.
91
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:14:00 -
[55] - Quote
What i took away from this is that someone has a pvp ego fueled by killing low skilled new bros in crap fits with no chance and no concept of low sec mechanics. |

Isaak Artorius
1
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:40:00 -
[56] - Quote
"TROOOOOOOLL! IN THE DUNGEON! TROLL IN THE DUNGEON! [Silence] Thought you ought to know. [Faints]"
- Professor Quirrell Blah, blah, blah, I'm super horny. I love EVE and monkeys. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2337
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:02:00 -
[57] - Quote
I'm petitioning all of you for discussing exploits.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3616
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:37:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:I'm petitioning all of you for discussing exploits.
But now you've joined in.  This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

BiscuitMonsterr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:21:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
rather than factoring the additional risk, people exploit by declining any missions that take them into low-security space.
Of course the poor-state of low-security mechanics would need to be re-worked.
The Gate: Permanently tanking sentry guns is trivial so establishing permanent high scan resolution 80km infinite point camps can be done with month old characters.
The Mission: With proper skills and probing implants It is possible to get warp-able hits at 32 AU probes, this has become incredibly easy with the new mid-slot modules,
What I'd like to see CCP do: Remove all ISK gained from the exploiters. Add E-War to gate guns (ECM, Damps, Disruption, Neutralizer) Require probes to be at 1AU or less before a warp-able hit is possible.
The fact that low-security space is broken, doesn't mean we should allow people to exploit the game.
I never knew this exploit existed before reading this thread. As soon as it sank in, I literally vomited. Unfortunately, I was facing my wife at the time, so I vomited straight into her face. This caused her to vonit in turn, which set out twin children and the nanny off.
Luckily my dog likes to eat sick, so the mess is minimal, albeit smelly, but my whole family is now experiencing terrible stomach cramps. All because of those damn exploiters.
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
706
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:27:00 -
[60] - Quote
Totally agree with the OP. To balance it, level 5 agents that are found in lowsec should send you to hisec for the mission, and you shouldn't be able to decline. Eve is Real |
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BiscuitMonsterr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:00:00 -
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Please CCP, stop the exploiters. My neighbors just called to say they're all projectile vomiting straight into each others faces due to the smell of sick pervading my apartment building's stairwell. All because of the mission-declining exploiters.
It's so sad.
Also, can you crown the OP King of Space for raising this? |

SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
18
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:05:00 -
[62] - Quote
Won't someone PLEASE think of the children? |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
562
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:12:00 -
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Ok. I did a little more research on this exploit and indeed, it is possible to decline missions leading to lo sec, and thus avoiding having to PVP in a PVP game. In fact, I was offered two consecutive L4 missions leading to lo sec from the same agent. My findings not only made me hurl, but gave me a bad case of diarrhea.
I was able to decline the first mission without any penalty whatsoever. The second mission I only had to wait a mere 4 hours before being able to decline as well! After declining the missions I hopped in a fast cloaker and headed to the lo sec system where I would have had to complete my mission and lo and behold, there was a gatecamp! I had just cheated these hard-working pirates from a fully pimped Navy Apoc kill!
I felt dirty inside, much like a scolded wh0re during biblical times. I immediately filed a petition and reported myself for exploiting and cheating the gatecampers of a 3-billion-isk kill. Hopefully this exploit will be dealt with, sooner rather than later. |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:49:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:Ah screw it, I was gonna quit but then I found out Hilmar wears $1000 Pants. Yet another quitter, overpromising and underdelivering. Oh, I don't know about that. Fearless was supposed to generate interest and debate. It did that in [oops, is there an equivalent/synonymous non-historically encumbered word for spades?]!
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BiscuitMonsterr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:39:00 -
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Pleas make it stop. My street has now been cordoned off by the police, the fire brigade, the riot squad and the National Hazmat Authority. There's sick everywhere, my wife has lost 5 kilos due to vomiting on the children and my dog is the most abject creature alive. I just saw an elderly man literally swimming through pools of vomit to get to safety, only to be turned back at the roadblock. The cops are starting to heave now too.
Before we know it the ebtire country will be awash with sour waves of vomit. All because of the damn exploiters. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2883
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:43:00 -
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This thread is finally going places.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
18
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:44:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:This thread is finally going places.
Pffft everywhere but low sec |

Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
682
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:47:00 -
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Klymer wrote:yeah CCP needs to improve the exploit so that it actually does induce vomiting. Perhaps adding camera shake when declining a mission would do it. Or just force people who decline through a warp gate... This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Robert Saint
Playright
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:47:00 -
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You are right - Low Sec needs to be Lower Sec than it's current Sec rating, but still higher than Null Sec, but not so high that it's mistaken for "not so high Sec". That way Mission Runners will somehow be confused as to which Sec players are allowed to shoot other players in, there by advancing the cause of the righteous brotherhood living in the same Sec as the former Low Sec....... Somewhere between Limbo and the Real World. |
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