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Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:13:00 -
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I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
rather than factoring the additional risk, people exploit by declining any missions that take them into low-security space.
Of course the poor-state of low-security mechanics would need to be re-worked.
The Gate: Permanently tanking sentry guns is trivial so establishing permanent high scan resolution 80km infinite point camps can be done with month old characters.
The Mission: With proper skills and probing implants It is possible to get warp-able hits at 32 AU probes, this has become incredibly easy with the new mid-slot modules,
What I'd like to see CCP do: Remove all ISK gained from the exploiters. Add E-War to gate guns (ECM, Damps, Disruption, Neutralizer) Require probes to be at 1AU or less before a warp-able hit is possible.
The fact that low-security space is broken, doesn't mean we should allow people to exploit the game. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
551
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:14:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.] Oh my. Have you filed a petition against these dirty cheating scoundrels yet?
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John DaiSho
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:15:00 -
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Meh...I just dont feel like feeding trolls today, sorry |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:16:00 -
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Humour. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Dain Highwind
La Isla del Mono
29
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:19:00 -
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Wait who is exploiting? the campers or the mission runners? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:24:00 -
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Look! Another "exploit" poast in GD!
I'll just hand this out now.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
403
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:28:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions)
And the OP doesn't list the consequence for declining such missions, a big minus to standings. Which is one of the reasons to run missions in the first place.
0/10. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3044
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:29:00 -
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Bored player who shoots everything that moves wants other players arbitrarily forced into his overview. News at 11. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:31:00 -
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I guess EXPLOIT is the forum buzz word of the week. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Pesky LaRue
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
264
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:33:00 -
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The OP's anger made me really, really horny. I know it's wrong, but hope it never stops. |
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rofflesausage
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2013.07.10 23:35:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
10/10 |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
324
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:02:00 -
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yeah CCP needs to improve the exploit so that it actually does induce vomiting. Perhaps adding camera shake when declining a mission would do it. |
stoicfaux
2912
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:11:00 -
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I've changed diapers with more content.
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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
175
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:22:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I guess EXPLOIT is the forum buzz word of the week. That's totally exploiting what I was going to say. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:24:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I guess EXPLOIT is the forum buzz word of the week. That's totally exploiting what I was going to say. Petition it.
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Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
2491
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:25:00 -
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It's only an exploit when they do something that was unintended by the game mechanics. The Drake is a Lie |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:27:00 -
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Sucks to be the exploited You know... morons. |
Six Six Six
Blood and Decay
188
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:36:00 -
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Hmm... you can't be serious.
Of all the complaints lately this must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
If this keeps up it'll be hardly even worth reading GD. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
176
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:39:00 -
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Six Six Six wrote:Hmm... you can't be serious.
Of all the complaints lately this must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
If this keeps up it'll be hardly even worth reading GD. The most important thing I learned many years ago, was that GD on any forum is simply a more structured off-topic forum and should never be taken seriously. |
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
237
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:59:00 -
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+1 this serious exploit is killing the game! I find it morally disgusting that all all missions don't force people into lowsec! I propose that if you even think about clicking on an agent in station services then you automatically are undocked and autopilot to the nearest lowsec system . These clear exploits make me sick to the fiber of my being and must be stopped immediately.
FYI, agent pay is determined only by level and the truesec of the system the agent is located in, not the system in which the mission is set (could be a good change btw) I don't know why i'm explaining this though, since clearly a troll. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3047
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Posted - 2013.07.11 01:12:00 -
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I'm reminded of a lowsec mission I took from a highsec agent years ago.
No problem really.
Except for my battle cruiser being camped at the station by someone with a Nyx.
I was able to beat him: I didn't give him a target and used an alt for a rapid warp-off point.
Still a bother though.
A Nyx. To kill a BC. Killboards must be like a bad drug to some people. Bad drug as in Meth. The tweaker on that stuff feels like he's on top of the world, but to other (looking at the killboard) we see a dirty loser with rotten teeth (that would be a long KB full of rookie ships and frigs and pods - yeah real leet there buddy).
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3609
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Posted - 2013.07.11 02:36:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote: The Gate: Permanently tanking sentry guns is trivial so establishing permanent high scan resolution 80km infinite point camps can be done with month old characters.
Mind sharing your magical 1 month skill plan to fly a fitted Heavy Interdictor? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
77
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Posted - 2013.07.11 02:50:00 -
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Hmmm... if this is indeed an exploit, shouldn't this thread be reported for blatantly telling players how to exploit? |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:37:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:I want to gank expensive & helpless PVE ships with my special fit PVP ship, and I shall whine until CCP hands those players over to me on a silver platter.
FTFY
Ammatar - Matari by blood, Ammarian by the Grace of God. |
Arkane Mystic
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
15
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:42:00 -
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How is declining a mission an exploit? Sounds more like your whining about not being able to hold your own in low-sec and you want more jucier inexperienced targets. |
Verunae Caseti
Viziam Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.07.11 04:35:00 -
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This forum really needs to institute 24 hour to 1 week bans for varying degrees of idiocy. OP would be gone for a month. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.07.11 05:12:00 -
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Oh shut up. Honestly, lowsec nubs are in fact the ***** of EVE. Every1 who happens to be better than you is either in null or wormhole space. If your that ballsy, come on out to null/WH space to do you roams. |
Don Purple
Snuggle Factory
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:07:00 -
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Bad post. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
578
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:35:00 -
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OK so mission runners decline missions. Hint: doing that repeatedly tanks your standings and your only real option here is to let the offer expire which takes time. Hardly farmable content.
OK so people camp lowsec gates and they are pretty good at it. It doesn't take too long to train up for it, even.
I'm having serious issues defining the actual problem here really. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10703
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Posted - 2013.07.11 06:40:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Skill Training Online wrote:I heard about this exploit and it almost made me vomit.
The current mission system allows exploiters to base out in a 0.5 system to maximize their mission rewards (the rewards are increased due to the risk of getting low-sec missions) And the OP doesn't list the consequence for declining such missions, a big minus to standings. Which is one of the reasons to run missions in the first place. 0/10.
Although once your faction standing is above 6 or so, the penalty for declining missions is laughable.
That said: I disagree with the premise of the OP.
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