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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.12.08 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: without anyone know what the lowest complex a dred can enter is. IE can it enter say a 5/10 and higher. or just limited to 10/10
thanks
I had no idea it could even enter any.
Like i said, it serves no purpose to have it in a complex, as it will be much easier and faster to do the complex with 3 ships then with one dread. Not to mention that dread aint moving fast if it cant kill the frigs. _______________________________________________
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.12.08 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager
Originally by: Wulfgard
Originally by: Tauruz yep, all the way. inty and hac!
I understand the tanking-avoid getting hit part but as Weirda pointed it out, you still lack the dps to break thru the officers tank.
Or may be minmatar HACs really stink
Minmatar HACs have the lowest damage output of any of the HACs.
Fighters may be rather interesting in a complex, as they only have a 125m sig resolution.
Harry Voyager
@harry wrong. muninn can be one of the most damaging hac if fitted that way (which it was for complex). ask meridus...
@others weirda is just flatly stating that ppl who say they can take 6-10/10 complexes in inty and hac are completely full of ****, plain and simple. anyone who wishes to contend this, weirda will come to anyplace in inty and join you for your uber slaughter fest. 
problem is that most ppl do a level or three of a complex, and never come up against the guy that have a billion shields and tripple reppers running on him and think 'wow you could do this in a hac'... crap - weirda thought that could easily do the whole thing in crusader solo until that point... 
anyway - it would be nice if ppl would stop lying about that or making stuff up. it is really kind of sad when someone who knows you are full of crap see you spouting off...  _____________ Thread Killer Give Assault Ship their Missing Bonus in RMR! <END TRANSMISSION> |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.12.08 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 08/12/2005 17:30:42 Weird, you *can* actually do a 6/10 in just a BS, if its quite uber.
Alternatively, you can do it in a AF+BS, if said BS is high damage with a decent ammo clip (as in: tempest tends to have trouble cause of reloading mid-slaughter).
About the 10/10 bit, let's just say that it's technically possible to do with two ships. Even with just one, if you have time.
However, in most cases people bring more then the minimum if not becuase it saves them time, and makes it less of a bore. _______________________________________________
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Wulfgard
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Posted - 2005.12.08 18:14:00 -
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An Arma fitted w/ 7 Megabeams T2, 5 Heatsinks T2, Max Gunnery skills (BS, Beam Spec to 5, ect...) will not break the tank of the 10/10 Boss. I based this assumption on me soloing the queen in a 5/10 drones (barely kills it as respwan keeps interupting the fight... I would imagine 10/10 would have even tougher boss ).
Plus a solo BS would take too much time clearing a lvl, on hard level all you would end up doing, is farming the lvl forever and be unable to jump to next stage due constant resapwn?
The best HAC, atm, doesn't outdmg a gankedon. Even if you add up the interceptor firepower, the boss with billionz hp and triple armor rep of dooom, with infinite cap will laugh at your face for believing fairytales read in the Eve-forums
Let's face it, we would all love to pwn a 10/10 with a wingman, but the reality is miles away from such dream |

Thudders
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Posted - 2005.12.08 19:39:00 -
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I solo'd a 10/10 with my troll rogue.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.12.08 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 08/12/2005 17:30:42 Weird, you *can* actually do a 6/10 in just a BS, if its quite uber.
absolutely.
weirda is referring to all of the inty+hac statements. they are simply not true. maybe guristas are especially lame and don't have uber tanking bosses, but all of the different (sansha/angel/blood) ones that weirda have done solo, or with AF/Inty wing have been impossible to break tank of boss - with max possible damage setups (well - the most you can if you are running with those two ships) - i.e. muninn with one repper and all gyros, and even Heavy ML (with best damage type in both). 
have broken tank in BS solo, but as you said, getting to the boss even in a solo BS takes much much longer then with HAC, or HAC + something combo.
as stated though - would love to come along in an inty with a HAC and have them show me how the boss' tank can be broken. _____________ Thread Killer Give Assault Ship their Missing Bonus in RMR! <END TRANSMISSION> |

Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.08 19:52:00 -
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I'd love to see fraps of people killing ultima wit ANY fleet, bonus points for just using an inty and HAC though.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.12.08 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda as stated though - would love to come along in an inty with a HAC and have them show me how the boss' tank can be broken.
My CEO has done a blood 6/10 in his ishtar with a wolf wingman a few times i think. He uses corpum reps tho...
However, mostly they do it in navythron/machariel, or solo navythron.  ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
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Altrex Stoppel
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Posted - 2005.12.08 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 08/12/2005 20:01:44 Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 08/12/2005 19:58:55
Originally by: Weirda full damage muninn cannot break tanks of bosses in 6/10 sansha (which it tanks easily)... wtf you guys smoking on this? couldn't even break with a full damage retribution flying wing... 
we are not talking level one... can do that in a fricking claw... 
Put this in your pipe and shmoke it. Taranis and an Eagle spanking a 10/10 down...
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=250044
Plus I know people who run 8/10s with 2 Bses... If you know what you're doing and go slow its possible.
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Black 1
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Posted - 2005.12.08 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda
weirda is just flatly stating that ppl who say they can take 6-10/10 complexes in inty and hac are completely full of ****, plain and simple. anyone who wishes to contend this, weirda will come to anyplace in inty and join you for your uber slaughter fest. 
hrhr, that 1.75M Bs is a pain in the @ss tbh. mine the last boss of the 6/10 is easily kills :P
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.12.08 20:06:00 -
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yes well.
Ive dont forst two levels and one hangar of the serpentis 10/10 alone too.
Which doesn't prove much tbh, since it took me all day and i needed to get out and back in twice to get new ammo for my megathron :p
Inty+eagle can do ti for one reason only: inty aggro's all and runs around, eagle snipedd away frigs first and then chews up the cruisers and bs that dont hit the inty anyway.
However, it takes ages. And would you have come to the final level, you would probably not have had enough ammo in your eagle to finish the station off, since it has insane structure hp's. You cannot refill once you've gone through the final gate.
However, a zealot might be able to do it paired with an inty. Still would take ages tho, and you'd be quite open to agression all teh time apart from the time you are in the last level. Since none of the others need keys.
In tq reality, that means the serpentis 10/10 are fought over. Who controls the system gets the complex. That hard part is getting the system, not doing the complex.
And anyway, why do it with two ships if you can do it with 7 and be doen in an hour ? _______________________________________________
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.12.08 20:11:00 -
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because then the loot is split between 2 chars, and not more
and its not as if you have to do it fast enough to finish before a respawn with these things
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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2005.12.08 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tauruz yep, all the way. inty and hac!
kind of off topic, but how well does an inty tank say in a 5/10 complex? i normally use a retribution, brother uses his geddon. would a crusader be able tank say the hive in a 5/10 drone complex, with no remote help
thanks! 
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.12.08 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Altrex Stoppel Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 08/12/2005 20:01:44 Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 08/12/2005 19:58:55
Originally by: Weirda full damage muninn cannot break tanks of bosses in 6/10 sansha (which it tanks easily)... wtf you guys smoking on this? couldn't even break with a full damage retribution flying wing... 
we are not talking level one... can do that in a fricking claw... 
Put this in your pipe and shmoke it. Taranis and an Eagle spanking a 10/10 down...
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=250044
Plus I know people who run 8/10s with 2 Bses... If you know what you're doing and go slow its possible.
from that thread:
Quote:
Basically, i did some experimenting on SiSi to how easy 10/10 complexs are.
We did this is an Eagle and a Tanaris :) We could have gone further but the eagle pilot had to log
Anyway...
didn't see one of the 'real' bosses drop... so statement still stands... putting in pipe and smoking anyways (weirda always up for a new high).... can assure you that an eagle isn't breaking the tank of anything like that...
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2005.12.08 22:09:00 -
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I imagine if they can, the 10/10's will be changed so there's a dread NPC sitting there waiting for your mothership. I don't want to see an NPC with siege mode. Fear the Ibis of doom. |

Kiraxis
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Posted - 2006.01.01 03:22:00 -
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/me takes a long hard drag from the pipe. Wow. I want more of what most people here are smoking. Destroying the sanshas 10/10 complex isnt simply killing the pansy 1.1 mill bounty BS's in there. The real money is in station ultima, and you still have to kill the first station in level 1 as well. Your telling me that you killed station ultima's ridiculous tank with one hac, and one inty? Please. You couldnt even tickle station ultima with the best mods in the game on your hac. 
Cheers.
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