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Sunburn	Posted - 2005.12.08 00:38:00 - [1]
Sunburn	Posted - 2005.12.08 00:46:00 - [2] Hit the wrong button Be careful who you decide to go and kill as they may well be legit players mining whilst doing other online activities. My advice is to convo the player who you suspect and if you do not get any response then you know they are macro mining. Also bear in mind that when using a barge it takes many cycles to fill a barge so it may give an impression that the person is breaking the rules.
Zarithas	Posted - 2005.12.08 01:16:00 - [3] Originally by: Sunburn Hit the wrong button Be careful who you decide to go and kill as they may well be legit players mining whilst doing other online activities. My advice is to convo the player who you suspect and if you do not get any response then you know they are macro mining. Also bear in mind that when using a barge it takes many cycles to fill a barge so it may give an impression that the person is breaking the rules. He's got a very good point. It is quite hard to tell whether someone is on a macro miner or not, since all you've got to do is click the rock, click the icons, and just go afk, which isn't a macro. What you need to do is give them a convo invite, and if you see them move on to another asteroid but isn't responding in the convo, then they're definitely on a macro; but the moral is that you should really wait to see if they're macroing or not. It would be quite embarassing to kill a non-macro miner.
Pandemic Thinking	Posted - 2005.12.08 01:44:00 - [4] We have a very detailed list of test we have to go through before we commit to an attack. I even go so far as to orbit the barge for several minutes and try to convo the player. 99% of the time, they perk up when a yellow tinged icon with a skull starts orbitting (we bounty ourselves on purpose) and they read the bio. We also do not equate afk miners in indys with macro miners. There is a huge difference between 7 or 8 sequencially numbers barges and a badger pointed at a lump of scordite. I will not go into what these test are - let the Macro's figure that out and adapt and evolve, as will our tactics. But most legit' miners are safe from us. If we ever did kill an honest miner - we gladly pay for all his losses and then some. IT'S YOUR GAME - TAKE IT BACK
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.12.08 02:20:00 - [5] respect to you Pandemic o/ - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
M3G4 InformationOfficer	Posted - 2005.12.08 10:13:00 - [6] Edited by: M3G4 InformationOfficer on 08/12/2005 10:14:27 We also have a very detailed and controlled selection criteria before calling them "Macro Miners" ..... Step 1) Throw insults at them in local .... Step 2) Call them Welsh ..... If after these scientifically approved steps we receive "no response" then we kill them.
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.12.08 19:41:00 - [7] Originally by: M3G4 InformationOfficer Edited by: M3G4 InformationOfficer on 08/12/2005 10:14:27 We also have a very detailed and controlled selection criteria before calling them "Macro Miners" ..... Step 1) Throw insults at them in local .... Step 2) Call them Welsh ..... If after these scientifically approved steps we receive "no response" then we kill them. Step 3) Tell them Japan > China. ----------------------------------------------- This post brought to you by the letter YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
MacroKiller 13	Posted - 2005.12.08 21:20:00 - [8] Originally by: M3G4 InformationOfficer Edited by: M3G4 InformationOfficer on 08/12/2005 10:14:27 We also have a very detailed and controlled selection criteria before calling them "Macro Miners" ..... Step 1) Throw insults at them in local .... Step 2) Call them Welsh ..... If after these scientifically approved steps we receive "no response" then we kill them. No response, like, someone afk?
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.12.08 21:30:00 - [9] Originally by: MacroKiller 13 Originally by: M3G4 InformationOfficer Edited by: M3G4 InformationOfficer on 08/12/2005 10:14:27 We also have a very detailed and controlled selection criteria before calling them "Macro Miners" ..... Step 1) Throw insults at them in local .... Step 2) Call them Welsh ..... If after these scientifically approved steps we receive "no response" then we kill them. No response, like, someone afk? That kind of AFK would be asking for it anyway....I doubt we're talking about just one line of insults before opening fire. ----------------------------------------------- This post brought to you by the letter YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Makree	Posted - 2005.12.08 21:37:00 - [10] We chat in local, making it clear what we do. We bump you. We target you. We steal your ore. But if your so anal as to keep mining with three orange kessies targetting you and with their pilots stating in local that they suicide kill macroers, then you can't really complain if your barge is vapourised. But of course you do.

Lizan	Posted - 2005.12.08 22:32:00 - [11] I never have the chat box open or read local = macroer? right..
M3G4 InformationOfficer	Posted - 2005.12.08 22:37:00 - [12] No ... we have multiple insults ... available from Penguins Books :)
The GoldenRatio	Posted - 2005.12.08 22:58:00 - [13] No response, like, someone afk? Yes, exactly. They arent responding to people who are hailing them and bumping them and taking their ore, just as though they are AFK, but, (this is the part where you need to pay attention) they are still transfering ore from their cargo hold to the jet can, cycling their mining lasars, and targeting astroids when the one they are working on gets depleted. These actions, esp when the name of the miner is xiahuo009 and he with 8 other mining barges who are all behaving in the same manner = macro miner. The GoldenRatio > All.
Pandemic Thinking	Posted - 2005.12.09 03:28:00 - [14] We moved to a very obvious macro op... Victim: yuonail Alliance: Unknown Corporation: School of Applied Knowledge Destroyed Type: Covetor Solar System: Shemah System Security Level: 0.8 Involved parties: Name: Monsieur Pink Security Status: 0.0 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Reservior Dogs Ship Type: Capsule Weapon Type: Rocket Launcher I Name: Arthur Twosheds Security Status: -1.3 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Reservior Dogs Ship Type: Kestrel Weapon Type: Rocket Launcher I Name: skulltron Security Status: 0.0 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: State War Academy Ship Type: Capsule Weapon Type: Rocket Launcher I Name: Pandemic Thinking (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.1 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Reservior Dogs Ship Type: Kestrel Weapon Type: Thorn Rocket I Name: Hundesoldat Security Status: -1.0 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Reservior Dogs Ship Type: Capsule Weapon Type: Warp Scrambler I Name: Jake Busey Security Status: 0.0 Alliance: Unknown Corporation: Reservior Dogs Ship Type: Capsule Weapon Type: Rocket Launcher I Name: Blood Raiders Destroyed items: Type: Strip Miner I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Strip Miner I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Nanofiber Internal Structure I (Fitted - Low slot) Type: Vespa I (Drone Bay) Type: Vespa I (Drone Bay) Going to be here a while and invite others to come and play with us... IT'S YOUR GAME - TAKE IT BACK
Jimmy Buffet	Posted - 2005.12.09 05:46:00 - [15] They are getting smarter. Seams there is someone watching some of the programs who has no idea of the EvE universe. My convo was andsered from a gang of 3 Apocs all born on the same day with mindless names and the cans were labeled the same. When they responded it was like talking to a 5 year old. Nothing made sense and i tried to carry a converstion only to wind up saying WTF. The best part was that he liked my setup when i advised him i had tech 3 miners, Go figure. Drop one peice of ammo move his ore to my can and FIRE :)
Rabb Darktide	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:22:00 - [16] Macros are generally pretty obvious if you observe them for a bit. Rabb Darktide War Council Dissident Aggressors www.dissidentaggressors.com
Drill Biatch	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:42:00 - [17] Hi, I for one wouldn't be happy if you took my ship as I don't macromine but don't stay at my pc for hour and hours watching a roids, also2 or 3 mines isn't long to give someone to respond this is just another form of pirating if you ask me which these so called non pirates are trying to hide in saying we kill macrominers if you get taken out we are sorry! Ok whatever, CCP should make it so that they donÆt get time to attack and that police are present 24/7 to protect the innocent. Can't wait for RMR then we have eye for an eye and if your going to be killing innocent miners or even macrominers then IÆm sure hey will return the fav as you will be flagged to them in your lame kesie. Pirates
migwar	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:53:00 - [18] RMR wont change a thing in this case as far as i know. These macro killers dont steal ore, They suicide barges then get popped by concord.
Dario Wall	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Drill Biatch Hi, I for one wouldn't be happy if you took my ship as I don't macromine but don't stay at my pc for hour and hours watching a roids, also2 or 3 mines isn't long to give someone to respond this is just another form of pirating if you ask me which these so called non pirates are trying to hide in saying we kill macrominers if you get taken out we are sorry! Ok whatever, CCP should make it so that they donÆt get time to attack and that police are present 24/7 to protect the innocent. Can't wait for RMR then we have eye for an eye and if your going to be killing innocent miners or even macrominers then IÆm sure hey will return the fav as you will be flagged to them in your lame kesie. Pirates Stated by someone who probably has never seen what macro miners can really do to mess up a game... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- CEO, MegaCorp Enterprises
Pandemic Thinking	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Drill Biatch Hi, I for one wouldn't be happy if you took my ship as I don't macromine but don't stay at my pc for hour and hours watching a roids, also2 or 3 mines isn't long to give someone to respond this is just another form of pirating if you ask me which these so called non pirates are trying to hide in saying we kill macrominers if you get taken out we are sorry! Ok whatever, CCP should make it so that they donÆt get time to attack and that police are present 24/7 to protect the innocent. Can't wait for RMR then we have eye for an eye and if your going to be killing innocent miners or even macrominers then IÆm sure hey will return the fav as you will be flagged to them in your lame kesie. Pirates 1) If you are a legit miner you have nothing to worry about. We have over 40 hits and no one has ever said so much as 'boo' to us aftewards. 2) In response to your 24/7 police protection - LAAAAAAAAGGGGG IT'S YOUR GAME - TAKE IT BACK

Kresh Vladir	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Drill Biatch Hi, I for one wouldn't be happy if you took my ship as I don't macromine but don't stay at my pc for hour and hours watching a roids, also2 or 3 mines isn't long to give someone to respond this is just another form of pirating if you ask me which these so called non pirates are trying to hide in saying we kill macrominers if you get taken out we are sorry! Ok whatever, CCP should make it so that they donÆt get time to attack and that police are present 24/7 to protect the innocent. Can't wait for RMR then we have eye for an eye and if your going to be killing innocent miners or even macrominers then IÆm sure hey will return the fav as you will be flagged to them in your lame kesie. Pirates yaaaaa..... 1) they are only flagged if they touch ur can and 2) their only flagged to for for ( 30 days i think ) if they pod kill me
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Drill Biatch Hi, I for one wouldn't be happy if you took my ship as I don't macromine but don't stay at my pc for hour and hours watching a roids How exactly do you mine if you are not at your PC every few minutes? The longest you can go AFK for while mining is 7.5 minutes while Ice mining, otherwise your hold fills up (unless you are mining in an Indy and no one cares about that.). I bet you just have a simple little macro that moves your ore from your hold to a can, and don't think that counts as macromining. And seriously macroers fighting back? Frankly Eye for an Eye shouldn't count for noob corps, want to fight then join a real corp. Oh and you are frankly a noob if you haven't figured out that most players in this game engage in what is technically piracy. The anti-pirates are in the minority. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
zcinner	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:29:00 - [23] evryone that played l2 for more then 1 day should be able to recognize macros by the name... Lemonsunshine, cuteprettysunshine, and so on :p
Bl4zer	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Lizan I never have the chat box open or read local = macroer? right.. So, let me get this right, you are targetted by a squad of orange kessies but you don't open local. Yeah, we will pop you. Darwinism in action. Just let me restate, for the stupid people, the game allows me to kill you anywhere. It only imposes a penaly after I have agressed you. I and my friends have worked out tactics that allow us to kill in high security space. And we have also worked out ways to deal with the CONCORD imposed sanctions. Now, while we like to kill macro miners most of all. We are not CCP and don't have access to the tools that would allow us to determine for sure if this is the case. So everyone who points a mining laser at an asteroid becomes a possible target. To prevent yourself becoming our next victim, use local to let us know you are a normal player. Save the Ubar asteroids
Dario Wall	Posted - 2005.12.09 12:59:00 - [25] Bl4zer if you are bored at the moment, there are some macro miners back in Korama needing some loving.... I'm sure they would love another visit from you and your friends. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- CEO, MegaCorp Enterprises
Pandemic Thinking	Posted - 2005.12.09 15:28:00 - [26] Reservoir Dogs knows the difference between a indy pointed at a slab of Veldspar while the player is away, and a team of Macro / ISK farmers, ripping out an entire system of all it's minerals. We have test we go through before we make an attack. I am not going to go into them, but if after all the hoops we jump through to get your attention and you fail even to do anything to tell us you are there... You are going down. We have hit 40 plus macro's and so far not a single complaint from the target. So if you see yellow tinged Kessies heading your way, with a small skull in the corner. Start typing... we have local open and are more than willing to have a chat.. IT'S YOUR GAME - TAKE IT BACK
Pandemic Thinking	Posted - 2005.12.09 15:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Drill Biatch Hi, I for one wouldn't be happy if you took my ship as I don't macromine but don't stay at my pc for hour and hours watching a roids, also2 or 3 mines isn't long to give someone to respond this is just another form of pirating if you ask me which these so called non pirates are trying to hide in saying we kill macrominers if you get taken out we are sorry! Ok whatever, CCP should make it so that they donÆt get time to attack and that police are present 24/7 to protect the innocent. Can't wait for RMR then we have eye for an eye and if your going to be killing innocent miners or even macrominers then IÆm sure hey will return the fav as you will be flagged to them in your lame kesie. Pirates Oh... and we really don't care if you are unhappy or not IT'S YOUR GAME - TAKE IT BACK
Ashraaf	Posted - 2005.12.09 16:42:00 - [28] Sorry theRaptor i could mine 15 min for ice. It's possible to have barge with 6000m3 cargo As to point. That, maybe, sometime i could fail to the reservoir dogs team, it will be my fault. Entirely I've got some possibility to pass the test, I'm in a corpo, i look after my character, and i try to answer people in local. But sometimes my mind drift far far away, reading the forum, takin time to answer :) If i die this way, i would be very upset but i would said it's me. I'm in a miner corpo, so when people attack macrominer, i think of them on my side, not as ennemy
Frensezz	Posted - 2005.12.09 17:00:00 - [29] If you guys are bored... Check out the Mundry System . its an 0,5 so good time for you guys to slay... A.U.C.
Pandemic Thinking	Posted - 2005.12.09 22:16:00 - [30] Originally by: Ashraaf Sorry theRaptor i could mine 15 min for ice. It's possible to have barge with 6000m3 cargo As to point. That, maybe, sometime i could fail to the reservoir dogs team, it will be my fault. Entirely I've got some possibility to pass the test, I'm in a corpo, i look after my character, and i try to answer people in local. But sometimes my mind drift far far away, reading the forum, takin time to answer :) If i die this way, i would be very upset but i would said it's me. I'm in a miner corpo, so when people attack macrominer, i think of them on my side, not as ennemy One more time, but with FEEEEELLLING You would not fit the profile of a macro. If is just you sitting in a belt mining away. I'd also be circling your barge checking your employment history for several minutes. If you were 2 months old in a noob corp, I'd take a closer look and wait for a hauler to make a show. Then I'd convo you...maybe. You don't fit the profile of a macro... So I error on the side of caution and leave you alone... That being said, Suppose we do kill you...opps! It a payday for you. Before your pod made it back to the station, you'd have a fat whopping wallet full of isk for your ship, cargo and your trouble. You'd actualy wish we killed you sooner. IT'S YOUR GAME - TAKE IT BACK



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