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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:36:00 -
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So to sum up, Incursion fleets earn their ISK at everone elses expense... much like they accuse Null sec alliances of doing.
Isn't it amazing how the combination of a lucurative ISK stream and a little bit of organization can make you act just like those you claim to despise.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:46:00 -
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Probably trying to imitate life in NS would be my guess... |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:47:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:So to sum up, Incursion fleets earn their ISK at everone elses expense... much like they accuse Null sec alliances of doing. Isn't it amazing what how the combination of a lucurative ISK stream and a little bit of organization can make you act just like those you claim to despise. 
I see it going both ways though.
The ISK earned in highsec could finance many wars against nullsec entities through equip-the-noobs programs and payout to mercs. If highsec "hates" nullsec so much (real hatred, not a "let's play Eve and PVP by shooting each other competitive "hate") holy hell could be raised with all that ISK.
Meanwhile, nullsec hates highsec for this "easy ISK fountain" of highsec incursios yet it was demonstrated already that popping the highsec moms causes major butthurt and stops the grinding in its tracks. Yet nullsec entities, goons mainly, have only gone so far as ganking freighters and financing hulkageddon.
The tools are in place for players to actually do something about all this, but people complain instead.
What I am starting to sense in all this is that some state of detente exists. Nullsec will harass highsec but somehow the incursions are sacred, and highsec generally leaved nullsec entirely alone and never seeks revenge.
Could these be the same players? I wonder.
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Vince Snetterton
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:33:00 -
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And in the past 7 hours, 2 incursions have been popped, the last one 1 hour after the earliest it could be. Here are the top LP leaders for the latest one popped, right from the eve automated mail system. Note all have identical LP, indicating that they worked the Mom together.
We are moving out of Euro primetime, so it will be interesting to see if 3rd mom is popped tonight.
1 Nadjadrira 53900 2 CaptainTr1cky 53900 3 Sarina Tzestu 53900 4 Yasemin Hanim 53900 5 Confuzius Infinitis 53900 6 Joe90 Togenada 53900 7 Elaith Arleyh 53900 8 Lliyen Acami 53900 9 Xug Udan 53900
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
463
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:42:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:What I am starting to sense in all this is that some state of detente exists. Nullsec will harass highsec but somehow the incursions are sacred, and highsec generally leaved nullsec entirely alone and never seeks revenge.
Could these be the same players? I wonder.

You can see it with the war in Fountain, too. A lot of sniping, but it's going nowhere. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:21:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:And in the past 7 hours, 2 incursions have been popped, the last one 1 hour after the earliest it could be. Here are the top LP leaders for the latest one popped, right from the eve automated mail system. Note all have identical LP, indicating that they worked the Mom together.
We are moving out of Euro primetime, so it will be interesting to see if 3rd mom is popped tonight.
1 Nadjadrira 53900 2 CaptainTr1cky 53900 3 Sarina Tzestu 53900 4 Yasemin Hanim 53900 5 Confuzius Infinitis 53900 6 Joe90 Togenada 53900 7 Elaith Arleyh 53900 8 Lliyen Acami 53900 9 Xug Udan 53900
Looks like multiboxers to me, and didn't someone say that DIN multiboxed? |

Vince Snetterton
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:26:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:And in the past 7 hours, 2 incursions have been popped, the last one 1 hour after the earliest it could be. Here are the top LP leaders for the latest one popped, right from the eve automated mail system. Note all have identical LP, indicating that they worked the Mom together.
We are moving out of Euro primetime, so it will be interesting to see if 3rd mom is popped tonight.
1 Nadjadrira 53900 2 CaptainTr1cky 53900 3 Sarina Tzestu 53900 4 Yasemin Hanim 53900 5 Confuzius Infinitis 53900 6 Joe90 Togenada 53900 7 Elaith Arleyh 53900 8 Lliyen Acami 53900 9 Xug Udan 53900
Looks like multiboxers to me, and didn't someone say that DIN multiboxed?
At least 2 of those 9 originated from German corps. DIN has a strong German contingent.
I was not on the mom acc gate to take names this time. So who knows for sure, in this particular instance. |

Vince Snetterton
305
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:32:00 -
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And the last high sec mom today was just popped. That makes 3 in 9 hours. This one apparently by ISN.
Yeah, ISN leaves the last mom up.
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Yeyra
Dragon Clan Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:38:00 -
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Last MOM wasn't popped by ISN. TVP popped it. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3093
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:39:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:And the last high sec mom today was just popped. That makes 3 in 9 hours. This one apparently by ISN.
Yeah, ISN leaves the last mom up.
is this abnormal? |

James Tzashi
Tzashi Industries
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:40:00 -
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That Last one was by TVP not ISN |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.07.16 00:23:00 -
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James Tzashi wrote:That Last one was by TVP not ISN
I'd like to see CCP buffing the HQ NPC spawns like they did the Vanguards in the Escalation NERF especially the MOM site in HI SEC... without touching the lo/NULL incursion spawns ( as a matter of act I'd like to see the lo/NULL sites returned to pre escalation spawns so they are run more often ) An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
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