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Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:46:00 -
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The devaluation of the isk IMO is what is hurting the game currently, mainly/solely driven by the introduction of Plex. The ability to spend cold hard cash and receive plex, which in turn can be sold in game for isk has really really devalued its worth. So, instead of having to work together towards a common goal you can go out and buy 10-20 Plexes and just buy what you need. Items that used to take weeks or months to save up for and work hard for now can simply be purchased. It takes the need away from teamwork and allows people to be more solo or less involved with the game itself. And over time, this can cause a certain amount of isolationism and then boredom sets in. Acquiring wealth in Eve used to take a long time but now it can simply be purchased with out of game money and converted.
I think that is what is driving the older players away from the game. The game has lost some of its "pure" allure. You used to have to work very hard to get what you need but now if you have a good bankroll you can simply just buy your way to wealth or fame.
I still love the game but just a bit less and have a different view. I think if you could go back in time to say 2004-2005 and take a look at now most people would be disappointed in how the economy works. |
Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:52:00 -
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Well, nothing done in game creates plex. It's not built or found. It's only here because someone paid cash for it on the Eve website and then added to someone's account. This creates more isk hence the issue. If you didn't have the ability to buy plex then less isk in game. |
Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:56:00 -
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Well, I guess its more of a redistribution of wealth actually. I still think it has a huge negative aspect on the game. |
Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:11:00 -
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I understand that Plex was created to get rid of RMT transactions. I would hope that would be assumed by my post but I guess not. Plex was the only item that can be purchased out of game and converted in game for isk. Thats a big problem.
Doesn't anyone see a glaring comparison to a RL issue??? 100mil isk to the person who gets it right. |
Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:41:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Tippia wrote:MeestaPenni wrote:No. The PLEX does in fact devalue ISK. Where it used to take several weeks, months, or a lucky officer spawn to accumulate a cool billion in ISK...now it can be done in as little time as it takes me to buy a couple of GTCs and convert.
The time value this game used to have doesn't mean jackshit anymore. That means it devalues time, not ISK. Time is inexorably linked to ISK. It takes time and effort to generate ISK from the faucets. ISK is functionally a commodity money, an abstraction of labor in the past. Keeping this in mind, you're both right, and you're both wrong. If PLEX were not in the game, and assuming RMT was not there either, then moving ISK (time/effort) around the game would not be as fast or as easy. Since it is easier to move ISK around using PLEX, the existing ISK can be rotated on and off the market much faster than would otherwise be possible. This can certainly have an impact on prices and the overall availability of liquidity in the game. Instead of the ISK sitting around in wallets, some of it is out and doing things. From a static non-temporal view, PLEX does not change the value of ISK one bit, no new ISK is added. In fact, some is removed in the form of the NPC taxes and fees. From a non-temporal point of view, PLEX is actually deflationary. However, From a temporal evaluation, PLEX may very well be inflationary. How it manifests is anyone's guess, though I suspect this is not exactly what the OP meant, or if it did, it didn't make it clear.
What he said. Thanks for saying what I was trying to say but poorly worded. |
Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:04:00 -
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I guess maybe the best question might be, "How would you feel about me buying a Titan via purchasing Plex with cash and then converting it to isk via the market"? I guess that is really what's driving my original post sorta. How would you feel about a person buying a Titan.
I can't fly one so no worries. lol
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Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:40:00 -
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I have to say, I read a lot of posts throughout the day at work in multiple categories or sections and MD always, always has the best answers, thoughts, ideas or opinions than any other group. And with the fewest flames. |
Killgor
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Posted - 2011.10.25 19:24:00 -
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Cyniac wrote:Killgor wrote: Plex was the only item that can be purchased out of game and converted in game for isk. . Just for the record Plex can be converted to AUR or to Game Time. Plex can be sold for ISK, not converted into it.
Converted in this sense or use means sold. That was the context in which I used it.
All in all, I am very pleased with all the responses so far. I can always rely on MD to come through with meaningful input. |
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