The ability to spend cold hard cash and receive plex, which in turn can be sold in game for isk has really really devalued its worth.

Well, nothing done in game creates plex. It's not built or found. It's only here because someone paid cash for it on the Eve website and then added to someone's account. This creates more isk hence the issue. If you didn't have the ability to buy plex then less isk in game.

Now, you do understand that it's the amount of ISK that devalues the ISK in that case, not the PLEX?

No. The PLEX does in fact devalue ISK. Where it used to take several weeks, months, or a lucky officer spawn to accumulate a cool billion in ISK...now it can be done in as little time as it takes me to buy a couple of GTCs and convert.

The time value this game used to have doesn't mean jackshit anymore.

Now, you do understand that it's the amount of ISK that devalues the ISK in that case, not the PLEX?

That means it devalues time, not ISK.

Well, nothing done in game creates plex. It's not built or found. It's only here because someone paid cash for it on the Eve website and then added to someone's account. This creates more isk hence the issue. If you didn't have the ability to buy plex then less isk in game.

But it's the introduction of real money to buy directly PLEX (that its directly ISK) that takes the concept of player driven economy away. I know that we have Bots, Moons, etc etc that make a lot of passive ISK but now those players have a way of cleaning that ISK away and pass it to someone that in some terms don't deserve it (both don't deserve it anyway..)

But it's the introduction of real money to buy directly PLEX (that its directly ISK) that takes the concept of player driven economy away.

People complained about the NeX crap but we already have one option to P2W in EVE, and that it's the PLEX market.

It takes the need away from teamwork and allows people to be more solo or less involved with the game itself. And over time, this can cause a certain amount of isolationism and then boredom sets in.

Acquiring wealth in Eve used to take a long time but now it can simply be purchased with out of game money and converted.

One of the main reasons for this situation is CCP turning a blind eye to large botting alliances. Ratters in null and mining bots everywhere. All this excess ISK is then RMTed by CCP as GTC/Plex and becomes essentially worthless. You can bust your balls mining for a T1 cruiser or buy a character and a super carrier to go with it via CCP approved RMT. I can't blame people for doing this, but I can blame CCP for making it easy.

Bot Mining CREATES wares, hence increases the value of ISK again

You always buy PLEX from another player. So how is that not player driven economy?

More like decreases the value of ore/minerals .

Plex was the only item that can be purchased out of game and converted in game for isk.

Have to differentiate:

- Ratting CREATES isk, hence serves to devaluate ISK
- Bot Mining CREATES wares, hence increases the value of ISK again

Because PLEX it's not one item constructed with materials found inside the game, like any other one that we have? it's just one item introduced from outside to move ISK from hands to hands.

Bot mining devalues minerals making them cheaper. A major contributing factor to the current situation, IMO.

Mr Epeen

I understand that Plex was created to get rid of RMT transactions. I would hope that would be assumed by my post but I guess not. Plex was the only item that can be purchased out of game and converted in game for isk. Thats a big problem.
Doesn't anyone see a glaring comparison to a RL issue??? 100mil isk to the person who gets it right.

Decreasing value of ores and minerals leads to decreasing price of wares in general. Hence every ISK is worth more.

total: 1100 mil ISK

So, after the transaction, no trace of any item is even left in the game. The same amount of isk in game. The same amount of wares. No influence on values.