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Apocryphal Noise Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 48	Posted - 2013.07.18 01:37:00 - [1] - Quote A summary of the war to date in two wonderful posts. The King in the North and the War of the R64's This conflict really started a few months ago in the old land of fire and brimestone: Delve. NCdot (northern coalition with a dot) along with Pandemic Legion and elements of the GOONSWARM FEDERATION attack TEST in their home. Now, from the perspective of the belligerents, this was mostly to instigate "goodfights" by dropping sbu's and making timers in 1-SMEB. The conflict was mostly unimportant except for one crucial thing; TEST took it ***** seriously. RED PEN CTA seriously. They threw trillions of isk worth of srp into enemy T3 fleets trying to save the system. A couple of weeks after an attempted NOL headshot and an srp nightmare, Pandemic Legion and Northern CoalitionDOT turn around and say "We're on your side buddy". OK guys. Fast forward to the invasion of Fountain post-Odyssey. Tech is worthless and R64's are the new paradigm. Unfortunately for the king of the goon the north is anemic when it comes to R64's. So the decision is made, the battle lines are drawn, the war is declared. With a quick offensive and a Sort Dragon defection goons seize an early beachhead in the Centaur and Pegasus constellations and half a dozen gifted station systems before TEST can react. That's the last progress the CFC makes for the foreseeable future. Enter dogpile coaltion. All of the major supercap alliances, elite pvp powerhouses and sympathetic coalitions have joined forces against the CFC in defense of TEST: Black Legion and 401k in the north, N3 and their hangers-on fresh from the eastern front, and ncdot and pandemic legion the fairweather friends. The Northern Front or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Post-tech Era Of particular note is Black Legion's triumphant return to Venal after their last abortive attempt at harassing the North. (The Boatman is not to be trifled with) First thing they do, kill some baby Gents supercaps and destroy a few hundred billion isk in TFI's. Last expansions answer to the ubiquitous Loki fleet was now the CFC's greatest liability. More on that later. They succeed in taking most of Venal tech (don't worry tech is worthless) while the war in Fountain rages and more importantly, they manage to grab QCAB sov and trap 100+ cfc carriers in station. The enemies of the cfc are jubilant and already herald what is surely goon capitulation as they lose timers in the south and sov in the north. But they were all of them, deceived. In the land of Deklien, in the fires of VFK, the dark lord THEMITTANI forged in secret a master alliance. He poured into it his cruelty and malice and will to dominate all life; One ally to rule them all: Elo Knight. QCAB is freeported, the carriers let free, and the north secured. Later, 401k attempted to take sov in H-W on their own and were crushed on the final timer. A couple of weeks later they lost a significant number of dreads and domi's to a Vee blaster mega fleet and have since withdrawn from the north to the Fountain front. The TFI is Dead, Long Live the Mega Meanwhile, Fountain goes poorly. All timezones see 1000+ enemies. All station systems fall but 4-EP. The TFI has proven it's ineptitude at brawling against domi's and rokh's, and Tengu's get massacred by sentry drone doctrines. It's time to go back to the drawing board. The CFC bleeds timers but the beachhead remains, and 4-EP remains. Days later the venerable Skymarshall's emerge from their smoke-filled backroom, bleary eyed and triumphant, with BALTECFLEET. Named for the legendary baltec1, who has never flown anything but a megathron no matter the fleet comp. Remember the Lazamo, Remember Z9PP The first test of the sleek and beautiful Megathron was Z9PP. A relatively unimportant system by most standards but the most important fight in this war to date (well maybe 9-V is more important now). TEST was attempting to online an ihub to create more timers to wade through when CFC formed up and attempted to kill it before it could online. The enemy marshaled two slowcat fleets quickly to defend the vulnerable structure, one PL fleet and one N3/TEST fleet. Vee sees two slowcat fleets with no support on field and FLIPS THE OUT RED PEN BROACASTS HOLY ** EVERYONE LOG INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. N3 manages to get domi's into system but they are no match for HOMMES NOIRE and his bomber brigade. As N3/PL/TEST start to lose carriers they send out their own desperate broadcasts to get battleships on field. TEST rokhs manage to create enough of a distraction for the PL slowcat fleet to warp to a friendly tower but much to their dismay the TEST/N3 carriers are surrounded by 50 dictors with 450 megathrons eating their support alive. It's not long now, the end is near. The last of the rokhs fall to megathron guns, the carrier pilots can sense their impending demi-NODE IS BEING REMAPPED. Yep, we all know that story. They even locked my thread when I called out CCP BOODABODDA. Nonetheless, the day was won. Hundreds of TEST battleships and 2 dozen carriers and dreads lay dead. The next day there's some nonsense with TEST/N3/PL breakout fleets themselves in need of breakout so the enemy forms several rokh fleets with capitals in support and burns for Z9PP. SUDDENLY, LAZARUS TELRAVEN. He drops on the N3 Rokh fleet all by his lonesome. It's one mega fleet versus 3 rokh fleets. Our humble mega ball is absolutely engulfed in red squares, BUT WE HOLD. WE HOLD LIKE BRAVE MEN. For 30 minutes we hold. Not a single blue square in sight. We trade like lions, for every mega they kill we take two with us but still hope dims as our dps dwindles. The enemy is utterly without mercy and we begin to accept our fate. But Ho! What is that on the horizon! Brave Reagalan joins the fray! Triage carriers primary! Then Vee and Vily are on field. 500 megathrons cut down the foe utterly. And Lazarus still stands.
Apocryphal Noise Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 48	Posted - 2013.07.18 01:38:00 - [2] - Quote The Sun Rises in the East, Set's in the West Now you may ask, how is the east relevant to the Fountain war. I'll tell you sweetling. Solar were deposed as Lords of the East earlier this year by a dogpile coalition similar to the one now faced by the CFC. Unfortunately for them though, their allies abandoned them and they surrendered their space to fight another day, biding their time. Cue THE RENT WEDDING. A disgruntled N3 director drops hundreds of systems of sov in the east and steals billions in hard earned renter isk. Though a conglomeration of supercap alliances grinded the systems back in a matter of days, it was the sign that solar needed. The sun rises. Move forward to today and solar is massacring the N3 pets left back east to defend their home. NCdot exits stage left for "one to two weeks" to contain the Solar Fleet threat. This is coming at a time when momentum in Fountain is firmly in the hands of the CFC. It appears the sun is setting for the dogpile coalition. Canaris Gets More Than He Bargains For: When you play the game of FC Bingo, you win or you die 9-VO0Q. The last timer of the first true station system for the cfc. Timed squarely in dogpile's (they call themselves N3ST now) strongest timezone, AU, they put a slowcat fleet on the station in preparation. The CFC forms 2 baltecfleets and a loki fleet, to deal with progod's ahacs, a strong answer to the megathron. 30 minutes before the station comes out all of the pieces are in play. The 3 cfc fleets are on-grid with the slowcat fleet on station. They anchor a t2 large bubble thinking it's brilliant place to cyno in their domi's so they wouldn't get bombed. They forgot, however, that bombers can fly while cloaked so HOMMES NOIRE (yes i know this is kcolor) and the bomber brigade simply set up at optimals while the bubble is onlining. The domi's cyno in, the bombs go out. BOOM BANG 10-15 domi's die as they load grid and the rest are put into low armor as Vily (who is literally on crack) warps in Mega's at motherfuckin 0. Meanwhile Laz's loki's headshot a wayward progodlegend 60 seconds into the fight, causing his full ahac fleet to flee the field in shame, never to be seen again. Then 100 t1 ewar cruisers warp in on top of 100 loki's without support. Good plan. However, slowcats are tough to kill, so with the help of STALWART ALLIES black legion, the CFC and BL cyno in 80 dreads on top of their slows, causing them to dock like cowards in a kickout station they're about to lose. At the end of the day the first station of the war falls to the goon war machine and 250 dogpile lay dead in the trenches. gf canaris, gf. AND NOW YOU'RE UP TO DATE
scimichar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2013.07.18 01:58:00 - [3] - Quote I thoroughly appreciate you keeping us pubbies up to date on such important matters.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 2982	Posted - 2013.07.18 02:06:00 - [4] - Quote --> Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 581	Posted - 2013.07.18 02:09:00 - [5] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: --> Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions His toon can't post there IMO.
Styx Titan Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.07.18 02:12:00 - [6] - Quote Slanted propaganda. The goon thrust has been blunted. This is not the begining of the end. But it is the end of the begining. A long road lay ahead but the goal is the layer of the facist beast which is goonswarm. "So as they recoil in anger to lick their wounds and mourn thier dead......" Fight on TEST
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Casoff 1220	Posted - 2013.07.18 02:17:00 - [7] - Quote my mission agent never mentioned any war and he's usually 'in the know'
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension 298	Posted - 2013.07.18 03:24:00 - [8] - Quote Other than the Lazimo was in 3WE not Z9PP.....would read again. The second Baltec fleet was TWO jumps away camping Progod's Gila fleet log out when that went down, between 1-% TiDi adn ******* blue bubbles it took us a half an hour to get on field.......fortunately that is only 3 minutes in real time so it wasn't that bad when we finally managed to get to 3WE all ghetto calvary style with the blue FYF that insisted on bubbling us. I jumped into 3WE with about 10% cap from all of the microwarp driving around. So far as slanted, meh, TEST and pet just lost a brawl in the only timezone they had superiority in, we'll see what happens over the weekend.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3852	Posted - 2013.07.18 03:40:00 - [9] - Quote Onictus wrote: So far as slanted, meh, TEST and pet just lost a brawl in the only timezone they had superiority in, we'll see what happens over the weekend. Generally the weekend is problematic for TEST, as the CFC has enough people who are willing/able to log in at ungodly times to go shoot stuff. They have usually tried to stretch things out into the week proper. Yes, like 9-V, which was in the middle of the week AUTZ. This was an alarmclock thing... I don't really know if there is a real reason to alarmclock for every single station system in Fountain, but then again, sov wars aren't usually won by one side having to literally fight over every single timer for every single sov structure. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is. PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013
Upde Upde Harris Industries 19	Posted - 2013.07.18 03:55:00 - [10] - Quote ilike the war because like every good arms dealer i sell to both sides via the market. My only issue is working out how to drink all the vodka i buy with the profits. in short goon wars are good for business
Apocryphal Noise Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 54	Posted - 2013.07.18 04:10:00 - [11] - Quote Onictus wrote: Other than the Lazimo was in 3WE not Z9PP.....would read again. The second Baltec fleet was TWO jumps away camping Progod's Gila fleet log out when that went down, between 1-% TiDi adn ******* blue bubbles it took us a half an hour to get on field.......fortunately that is only 3 minutes in real time so it wasn't that bad when we finally managed to get to 3WE all ghetto calvary style with the blue FYF that insisted on bubbling us. I jumped into 3WE with about 10% cap from all of the microwarp driving around. So far as slanted, meh, TEST and pet just lost a brawl in the only timezone they had superiority in, we'll see what happens over the weekend. I never said it was in Z9PP, I said Laz ambushed the N3 rokh fleet on their way to Z9PP. I was in the Lazimo, survived with 90% structure after being primaried twice.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3852	Posted - 2013.07.18 05:10:00 - [12] - Quote Upde wrote: ilike the war because like every good arms dealer i sell to both sides via the market. My only issue is working out how to drink all the vodka i buy with the profits. in short goon wars are good for business Please tell me you sell lots of Navy Apocs and "slowcat"s. Also, Dominixes. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is. PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013
knobber Jobbler Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 250	Posted - 2013.07.18 05:28:00 - [13] - Quote Styx Titan wrote: Slanted propaganda. The goon thrust has been blunted. This is not the begining of the end. But it is the end of the begining. A long road lay ahead but the goal is the layer of the facist beast which is goonswarm. "So as they recoil in anger to lick their wounds and mourn thier dead......" Fight on TEST Blunted? Test are all but out of the fight and out of money. Ncdot and n3 do the bulk of the fountain defence. N3 is going back to defend against solar and pl have pulled out already. Cfc participation is still high and we're still rolling in money. The war is good.
Just Lilly 103	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:22:00 - [14] - Quote TL;DR Wall of text wins yet again Powered by Nvidia GTX 690
Apocryphal Noise Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 56	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:25:00 - [15] - Quote Just Lilly wrote: TL;DR Wall of text wins yet again It's not too long you just don't care about the information boosh
Harry Forever SpaceJunkys 394	Posted - 2013.07.18 08:07:00 - [16] - Quote everybody should just attack the goons and whipe them out OMG! the asteroid is depleted!
Speedkermit Damo Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance 81	Posted - 2013.07.18 10:49:00 - [17] - Quote One thing has become apparant over the last month, which is that Pandemic legion is very much a paper tiger which has been living on it's past reputation. Don't Panic.
Spurty 908	Posted - 2013.07.18 11:11:00 - [18] - Quote Op opens prose with talk about "instigating good fights", proceeds to tell is all about 450 megathrons LAWLZ Goons going to some lengths to win the "popular vote" here by retreating to the "don't hit us, we're only little" doctrine of damage controlling the numbers they are up against. Carry on fighting though. Means you have less time to post about nerfing things you can not control through moronically huge corp/alliance/blues numbers Yah I said it. Not seeing a problem myself. Very limited by the theoretical max dimensions of the box aren't you. --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. ****
Nova Satar Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance 143	Posted - 2013.07.18 11:16:00 - [19] - Quote is it these stories and the narrative of "war" that keeps the thousands of puppets in nullsec entertained? because the actual war itself sounds incredibly boring
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 475	Posted - 2013.07.18 11:20:00 - [20] - Quote Apocryphal Noise wrote: A summary of the war to date in two wonderful posts. Here's an update about the Fountain war in ONE SENTENCE: My level 3 drones can fight that war faster! Might as well turn that war into the "Days of our Lives" soap opera, since they sure not getting territory anytime this side of life! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension 299	Posted - 2013.07.18 13:27:00 - [21] - Quote Spurty wrote: Op opens prose with talk about "instigating good fights", proceeds to tell is all about 450 megathrons LAWLZ Goons going to some lengths to win the "popular vote" here by retreating to the "don't hit us, we're only little" doctrine of damage controlling the numbers they are up against. Carry on fighting though. Means you have less time to post about nerfing things you can not control through moronically huge corp/alliance/blues numbers Yah I said it. Not seeing a problem myself. Very limited by the theoretical max dimensions of the box aren't you. Ever try to break 60 spider tanking archons?
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 708	Posted - 2013.07.18 15:54:00 - [22] - Quote Two questions. 1. Is english your primary language? 2. Do you honestly think the average player gives a crap about this overly wordy fantasy history you posted? I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
Khadann Skull Bearers 51	Posted - 2013.07.18 20:29:00 - [23] - Quote Thanks for this post, i loved the dramatic tone, while stil giving an update. Ips: i never knew how the war started until now, thx
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3852	Posted - 2013.07.18 21:22:00 - [24] - Quote Nova Satar wrote: is it these stories and the narrative of "war" that keeps the thousands of puppets in nullsec entertained? because the actual war itself sounds incredibly boring It is. Less so because our secret agents at CCP instigated them to add missile effects, so we can be entertained by the cool-ness of our torpedos in space. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is. PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2013.07.18 21:32:00 - [25] - Quote I was certain I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight what with it being so hot and humid here in the UK at the moment, but now I know I'll be able to drop off like a baby simply by re-reading the OP.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 977	Posted - 2013.07.18 21:36:00 - [26] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: I was certain I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight what with it being so hot and humid here in the UK at the moment, but now I know I'll be able to drop off like a baby simply by re-reading the OP. The well known place that "almost" never sees the sun (joking of course, UK is a very nice place to make friends and have good fun) removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Aurenas Uitoh State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.18 21:51:00 - [27] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: everybody should just attack the goons and whipe them out it is literally that simple
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 978	Posted - 2013.07.18 22:07:00 - [28] - Quote Speedkermit Damo wrote: One thing has become apparant over the last month, which is that Pandemic legion is very much a paper tiger which has been living on it's past reputation. PL works on a very different way of all other alliances, thinking they became a paper tiger because of a "thing" (zdat Revenant fight) is a silly assumption to make The point being they were there for something that no one could expect escalation at that point a bit like zdat DBRB Titan jump finishing with half Eve fighting in the system, but actually happened, at some point it's better to step back and stop losses then bring more assets to the fight just to play little boys game and see who has the bigger gun. Yes this fight could end differently but in the end what you need to think is -is that really worth at bottom line to have a nice battle report when active assets are far better of use than km's ? Not sure this was the point of PL's leaders at that point but imho is a good not bad assumption. I'm quite sure PL has very strong teeth still but like to play on their terms, which is wise and by no means shows they're weaker now then they were before. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3852	Posted - 2013.07.18 22:15:00 - [29] - Quote Aurenas Uitoh wrote: Harry Forever wrote: everybody should just attack the goons and whipe them out it is literally that simple They're trying !! In Fountain !!! There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is. PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 583	Posted - 2013.07.18 22:44:00 - [30] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Nova Satar wrote: is it these stories and the narrative of "war" that keeps the thousands of puppets in nullsec entertained? because the actual war itself sounds incredibly boring It is. Less so because our secret agents at CCP instigated them to add missile effects, so we can be entertained by the cool-ness of our torpedos in space. I though it was boat's stories. I need to read up more...

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