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STush T
Capital Sin
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:54:00 -
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The ONLY reason i say 2bil is because it needs to be painful enough that the average scammer/griefer/obnoxious little $hit wouldnt want to do it. 2bil is high, but if you really hate your characters name, and youve hated it for awhile, 2 bill is worth it. Course I dont hate my name so i can say "it should 2.45 trillion" no skin off my back.
But the point is it should hurt the iskies enough to make it only worthwhile to people who loathe their name. |
Crystal Stills
Compendium Research Company
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Posted - 2013.10.23 02:17:00 -
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Just giving the thread a bump every once in a while as I want to see this happen. |
Shaera Taam
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:23:00 -
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Bumping for justice...
Not because of this toon, i love my main here.
Its an alt i bought off an old friend so an '04 toon didnt get biomassed. That friend def did NOT care about naming conventions... Its painful to even login with the name he's sporting...
As for reqs, dont tie it to /just/ isk. Baaad idea. We all know isk is not a balance for anything ( coughtitanscough ). Just give it a one-year cooldown, a 'x changed his name to y' notification to all watch-list holders, and an entry on an 'alias' tab. All ideas that make sense.
Hell, you could even make it use the remap counter, in conjunction with all the above requirements. Has a certain total-recall, lore-flavor to it, eh? Esp for those characters on the bazaar who're maybe looking for a completely new lease on life...
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Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess! |
Suran Parr
Os Terriveis
0
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Posted - 2013.11.11 14:32:00 -
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No, I would miss all those odd names that keep popping up in local. |
Crystal Stills
Compendium Research Company
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:00:00 -
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I wouldn't miss them, I rather see real names |
Valentine Sukarala
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:44:00 -
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have we heard any thing about this? |
Mad Monty Python
Altruism.
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Posted - 2013.12.27 10:33:00 -
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bump |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
606
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Posted - 2013.12.28 11:24:00 -
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I made this name on a trial for the lulz....
5 years later....
Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |
ionageman TOG
security services
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Posted - 2014.01.05 04:12:00 -
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Can't understand why name / history isn't wiped when toon is sold .
Cost a fortune . Comes with baggage .
Why should the buyer be penalized for the previous owners sins .
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2014.01.06 13:17:00 -
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ionageman TOG wrote:
Can't understand why name / history isn't wiped when toon is sold .
DERP... because then it would be simple to whitewash characters with well known bad reputations.
ionageman TOG wrote: Why should the buyer be penalized for the previous owners sins .
maybe the buyer should do some research into the item that hes buying, rather than simply looking at SPs. A character is more than the number of his skill points.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
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ionageman TOG
security services
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Posted - 2014.01.07 12:53:00 -
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Man that'd just kill the game in it's tracks . Huh. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:40:00 -
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I like the idea. No sec status restriction needs to apply. Why would it matter what the toons sec status is?
I didnt expect to play past the 21 day trial so I just typed my gamer tag as one word. Lazy and stuff. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.15 10:48:00 -
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Although I am generally against this in principle, I'm not above making suggestions so if it does happen, its a bit more palatable
One requirement to me would be that any past names appear on your profile (say, in a clear colour between where your character name and your titles appear), and that the old name is still linked to your character (so for example, any Eve Gate search of your old name (or even something close to it) would bring up your new character name as a possible result, and no-one else can ever reuse the name).
I might even argue that a symbol appear against your name in any chat channel windows (in particular local), that signifies you are known by other names, so more cautious people can be warned it might be worth checking your profile to make sure you aren't known to them in another form - although, depending how easy/cheap this service would be to use, this might be pointless if a large percentage of pilots use it (if half the pilots in the local window in any given system is showing the icon, people will stop taking it as a warning, so rendering in pointless). |
Omad Kafshaz
Evil Monkey Asylum Evil Monkeys Asylum
0
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Posted - 2014.02.18 02:32:00 -
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I think you should at least be allowed one name change if you buy a character from the character bazaar. |
Deimos Caerus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.18 15:56:00 -
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Just make it like with corp history so you can see name history of each player to avoid scam > change name > scam etc.
If you can see the previous names it shouldn't really cause any problems. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2670
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Posted - 2014.05.19 08:40:00 -
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If your that "serious" about eve... start over with your preferred name.
After all, "serious" people will invest the 3-4 years to get back their SP.... Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Omega Flames
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
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Posted - 2014.05.22 02:30:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:ionageman TOG wrote:
Can't understand why name / history isn't wiped when toon is sold .
DERP... because then it would be simple to whitewash characters with well known bad reputations. ionageman TOG wrote: Why should the buyer be penalized for the previous owners sins .
maybe the buyer should do some research into the item that hes buying, rather than simply looking at SPs. A character is more than the number of his skill points. it is very difficult to impossible to research a toons reputation if that toon doesn't post in the forums. yes there are some tools to help keep track of scammers/spammers but they have very big holes in them and are not some defacto way to "research" a toon for sale. <Munnkeh> i'm gonna use that excuse if i ever kill someone. "look, if you keep meeting ppl, it's bound to happen eventually" http://i.imgur.com/76pQ9.jpg |
Eave Galova
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.27 22:32:00 -
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Please bump this.
I just copy pasted this from the Wiki on name changes. Wouldn't be tough to mimic real world policy, would it?
"It is necessary to plead that the name change is not for a fraudulent or other illegal purpose, such as evading a lien or debt or for defaming someone else. The applicant may be required to give a reasonable explanation for wanting to change her or his name. A fee is generally payable, and the applicant may be required to post legal notices in newspapers to announce the name change. Generally the judge has limited judicial discretion to grant or deny a change of name, usually only if the name change is for fraudulent, frivolous or immoral purposes."
Essentially, a name change in EVE would involve a simple background check including past corporations or petitions placed against you, as well as sec status at time of request. A decent explanation as to why a person would like to change their name seems logical, as well. Once the name is officially changed, definitely have a name history attached to the char, with a marker for anyone who's changed their name recently, as well as alerts for friends / corps of people who have. From a dev standpoint, this is less than a headache. I hope to see this implemented.
EDIT: Definitely have only allow Only ONE name change per char, including the request process listed above, so that this couldn't be abused over a longer EVE career. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:54:00 -
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Give it these limitations and I'll support:
1.) character has never destroyed a player ship owned by someone else, piloted or not, while in empire space 2.) character has not stolen goods within the last year 3.) character has stolen a total value under the current price of a PLEX throughout the entire character's lifespan 4.) character has never had a sec status below -0.5 at any point in time 5.) character has never been kicked from a corp 6.) character has never been given a personal standings below neutral by anyone
or alternatively, this limitation only:
1.) a search for the character's old name turns up the character in the search along with anyone else who actually has that as a current name, and the name history can be looked up on the character's info page.
TL;DR the most important bit is that it needs to not be usable as a way of hiding from a reputation. It should be obvious to all your friends and enemies who you are. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Kyle Tawate
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.05.30 17:05:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Give it these limitations and I'll support:
1.) character has never destroyed a player ship owned by someone else, piloted or not, while in empire space 2.) character has not stolen goods within the last year 3.) character has stolen a total value under the current price of a PLEX throughout the entire character's lifespan 4.) character has never had a sec status below -0.5 at any point in time 5.) character has never been kicked from a corp 6.) character has never been given a personal standings below neutral by anyone
or alternatively, this limitation only:
1.) a search for the character's old name turns up the character in the search along with anyone else who actually has that as a current name, and the name history can be looked up on the character's info page.
TL;DR the most important bit is that it needs to not be usable as a way of hiding from a reputation. It should be obvious to all your friends and enemies who you are. If you ran for csm, I will vote for you. This is the strategic thinking EVE leaders are currently missing. Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO. |
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
1486
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Posted - 2014.05.30 22:01:00 -
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Kyle Tawate wrote:If you ran for csm, I will vote for you. This is the strategic thinking EVE leaders are currently missing. (Just realised you'e tes, so I don't know how my corp will feel about that statement) Support Gizznitt Malikite for CSM then. I don't know if he plans to run, but it was after reading his post here (post #20) that I re-evaluated mine and added the second part. He is a man of reason and he knows a lot about EVE. The CSM could use someone like him.
I think the best option is to not base the name change on cost and simply make sure it is impossible to use it to drop your identity. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2014
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Posted - 2014.05.30 22:01:01 -
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Kyle Tawate wrote:If you ran for csm, I will vote for you. This is the strategic thinking EVE leaders are currently missing. (Just realised you'e tes, so I don't know how my corp will feel about that statement) Support Gizznitt Malikite for CSM then. I don't know if he plans to run, but it was after reading his post here (post #20) that I re-evaluated mine and added the second part. He is a man of reason and he knows a lot about EVE. The CSM could use someone like him.
I think the best option is to not base the name change on cost and simply make sure it is impossible to use it to drop your identity.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
"What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
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Adunh Slavy
1461
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Posted - 2014.06.01 16:30:00 -
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Add new info to characters: Name History. Like corp history, it is there forever. Use that in conjuction with the notes field, to keep data on people.
See someone doing names changes once a year or every three months, or whatever the limit is, and you know he's not to be trusted.
Name change history would nip the "fear" of bad people changing their name. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.06.01 16:30:47 -
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Add new info to characters: Name History. Like corp history, it is there forever. Use that in conjuction with the notes field, to keep data on people.
See someone doing names changes once a year or every three months, or whatever the limit is, and you know he's not to be trusted.
Name change history would nip the "fear" of bad people changing their name.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt
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t Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.01 22:37:00 -
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am surprise its not in game already . name change history is all the safeguard you need . |
t Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.01 22:37:43 -
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am surprise its not in game already . name change history is all the safeguard you need . |
Kyle Tawate
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:00:00 -
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t Hanaya wrote:am surprise its not in game already . name change history is all the safeguard you need . Unfortunatly, some people are harder to educate than others on such a straight forward issue. Its kinda like marige equality or pot legalisation; its a good idea, but its hard to pass. Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO. |
Kyle Tawate
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:00:20 -
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t Hanaya wrote:am surprise its not in game already . name change history is all the safeguard you need . Unfortunatly, some people are harder to educate than others on such a straight forward issue. Its kinda like marriage equality or pot legalisation; its a good idea, but its hard to pass.
Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO.
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Kyle Tawate
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
2
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Posted - 2014.07.08 03:41:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:No no no..... Eve does not need name changes.
If you buy a character then you should look for one with a name you want as well as the skills you are looking for.
If you chose a bad name in the first place, suck it up, you made that decision.
I'm sorry, but what you said was closed minded at best. "Sucking it up" is a code word for lack of empathy and lazy problem solving. I would concider maybe actually countering the ideas set on the table, rather than white washing the issue with a "we don't need this" excuse.
I hope this has helped you in discussing about name changes.
Have a nice day. Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO. |
Kyle Tawate
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.07.08 03:41:03 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:No no no..... Eve does not need name changes.
If you buy a character then you should look for one with a name you want as well as the skills you are looking for.
If you chose a bad name in the first place, suck it up, you made that decision.
I'm sorry, but what you said was closed minded at best. "Sucking it up" is a code word for lack of empathy and lazy problem solving. I would concider maybe actually countering the ideas set on the table, rather than white washing the issue with a "we don't need this" excuse.
I hope this has helped you in discussing about name changes.
Have a nice day.
Name changes are a fundemental feature for any sucessful MMO.
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