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HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.07.28 09:18:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:ECM has nothing going for it. The only people that support it are ones that don't know better, haven't experienced enough of it, or simply can't win without it.
ECM causes people to lose ships without a fight, I honestly don't see how you think that is a good thing. I don't support this; I've been on both ends, I don't use jammers unless I'm on a jam ship which is hardly ever, and if you're going to say I don't know better you're just sidestepping any sort of discourse.
Jammers give a chance that someone can't do anything briefly, damps ensure it. That's not a good point against them.
And if 'some noob' can show up and keep you out of a fight, guess what, he can do that. He's also in a paper thin ship and probably only managed one jam, so have someone kill him or let your drones do it. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.07.28 10:32:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Edit: Out of the 17 losses you've had, not a single one has an ECM ship in it. And you claim to have been on both sides? Heck, you've not even flown an ECM ship, yet alone die to one. This is why I say only the inexperienced argue for ECM. Shockingly, I may not want to show my main on the forums. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.07.28 10:43:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Morrigan LeSante wrote:See, now you're just posting emotional rants. When there is a frigate tackling your ship and you get ECM'd, you are basically dead in the water. When you get sensor damped you atleast have the option of killing the ships tackling or brawling you. Not everybody flies kiting long range ships that sit 20kms away from you. This is a very common occurrence. If you've ever fought a keres you'd understand how wrong that is. On top of that damp ships don't open with range, they open with res. That freakish, endless, and evil 20 sec jam you're talking about is nothing compared to taking a cruiser's res down to 40. After that, if you're still alive lock range is at 8% and if you can lock from disruptor range at that point you're too big to hit a frig anyway. |
HiddenPorpoise
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Posted - 2013.07.28 11:08:00 -
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If 8% of your maximum lock(What happens when a damp ship decides to hate you) is greater than disruptor range (that needs a base targeting range over 200km for the record) you are clearly in something that can't hit a frigate. And at that point nothing is going to stay in your lock range long enough to actually lock.
You seem have trouble with the idea that damps can keep ships from locking and therefore fighting. |
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Posted - 2013.07.28 11:25:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Also: Do you even know what a brawling is bro? I do. Now, from the situation you just laid out, kill the tackle orbiting just out of lock range (18km) and the keres orbiting at 36(the keres is putting down a point from here as well). |
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