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Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:16:00 -
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Title states it all. No this isn't a troll, flame or insult toward Goblin but rather I ask a legitimate question. What exactly do his article's contribute toward in improving Eve? I read all the pretty little news sites mainly for laughes over the propoganda war and of course for the abissmal articles written on an almost daily basis by Gelvon Goblin.
See I understand that all if not mainly a majority of the news written for EN24 and Mittani well are spun. But even I fail to see any legitimate contribution Goblin brings except for infuriating those who endure the pain of reading his opinions on making Eve like World Of Warcraft.
His articles hold little context. Rather than taking an outward look at Eve as a whole, he often gloats from simple things like his wallet balance, to his "acceptance" into TEST (as if this was an achievement worth any merit at this stage in the war), and of course let us never forget my fellow simpletons he achieved the "gold cap" in WoW.
No I'm not kidding. Riverini you are on the CSM. Why not stick someone else to fill the gap on the "economic" section of your website? Why keep giving this person chances to make EN24 look comical?
Please someone enlighten me. How exactly does comparing looting boars for gold give one credentials in speaking on the vast intricate workings of Eve's economic system? Let's not even touch his opinion on null sec, frig pvp, combat experience vs care bearing etc.
My point is Riv. You read these forums. You are a CSM. Do us all a favor and send this little green goblin back to the Horde where he belongs. |

Dr Vulix
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:22:00 -
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Someone sounds butthurt |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1248
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:22:00 -
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Quote:Riverini you are on the CSM riverini's not on the csm? |

Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
463
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:26:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Quote:Riverini you are on the CSM riverini's not on the csm?
My apologies got him confused with Ripard Teg. They both post articles on a regular basis  |

Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
463
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:31:00 -
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Dr Vulix wrote:Someone sounds butthurt
No not butthurt. Just rather perplexed. You'd think after three consecutive weeks of Goblin's articles going down in flames in the comments section someone would have taken notice 
I also find these threads interesting seeing as players are influenced to a degree by editor's and writers in Eve's major news sites. After all information is key in influencing peoples opinions. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3122
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:39:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:My apologies got him confused with Ripard Teg. They both post articles on a regular basis  Hopefully Ripard doesn't feel bad about being confused with Riverini. |

Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
463
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:41:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Tara Read wrote:My apologies got him confused with Ripard Teg. They both post articles on a regular basis  Hopefully Ripard doesn't feel bad about being confused with Riverini.
We can only hope and pray my friend. |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
496
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:43:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Title states it all. No this isn't a troll, flame or insult toward Goblin but rather I ask a legitimate question. What exactly do his article's contribute toward in improving Eve? I read all the pretty little news sites mainly for laughes over the propoganda war and of course for the abissmal articles written on an almost daily basis by Gelvon Goblin. See I understand that all if not mainly a majority of the news written for EN24 and Mittani well are spun. But even I fail to see any legitimate contribution Goblin brings except for infuriating those who endure the pain of reading his opinions on making Eve like World Of Warcraft. His articles hold little context. Rather than taking an outward look at Eve as a whole, he often gloats from simple things like his wallet balance, to his "acceptance" into TEST (as if this was an achievement worth any merit at this stage in the war), and of course let us never forget my fellow simpletons he achieved the "gold cap" in WoW. No I'm not kidding. . Why not stick someone else to fill the gap on the "economic" section of your website? Why keep giving this person chances to make EN24 look comical? Please someone enlighten me. How exactly does comparing looting boars for gold give one credentials in speaking on the vast intricate workings of Eve's economic system? Let's not even touch his opinion on null sec, frig pvp, combat experience vs care bearing etc. My point is Riv. You read these forums. And Ripard you are a CSM. Do us all a favor and send this little green goblin back to the Horde where he belongs. (Also I fail at life for confusing Riverini and Ripard Teg. I shall take no less than 50 lashes for my incompetence  )
Dang, STILL talking about WoW on the EvE forum -- and it isn't even me -- lololol "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
463
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:44:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Tara Read wrote:Title states it all. No this isn't a troll, flame or insult toward Goblin but rather I ask a legitimate question. What exactly do his article's contribute toward in improving Eve? I read all the pretty little news sites mainly for laughes over the propoganda war and of course for the abissmal articles written on an almost daily basis by Gelvon Goblin. See I understand that all if not mainly a majority of the news written for EN24 and Mittani well are spun. But even I fail to see any legitimate contribution Goblin brings except for infuriating those who endure the pain of reading his opinions on making Eve like World Of Warcraft. His articles hold little context. Rather than taking an outward look at Eve as a whole, he often gloats from simple things like his wallet balance, to his "acceptance" into TEST (as if this was an achievement worth any merit at this stage in the war), and of course let us never forget my fellow simpletons he achieved the "gold cap" in WoW. No I'm not kidding. . Why not stick someone else to fill the gap on the "economic" section of your website? Why keep giving this person chances to make EN24 look comical? Please someone enlighten me. How exactly does comparing looting boars for gold give one credentials in speaking on the vast intricate workings of Eve's economic system? Let's not even touch his opinion on null sec, frig pvp, combat experience vs care bearing etc. My point is Riv. You read these forums. And Ripard you are a CSM. Do us all a favor and send this little green goblin back to the Horde where he belongs. (Also I fail at life for confusing Riverini and Ripard Teg. I shall take no less than 50 lashes for my incompetence  ) Dang, STILL talking about WoW on the EvE forum -- and it isn't even me -- lololol
In b4 ships turn into flying mounts and we can have pets in station 
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1248
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:17:00 -
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so the explanation is
that the more garbage blog copypastas there are on en24 the more riv gains ad revenue from people clicking through to post more garbage in the comments
mystery solved  |

Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.07.24 05:32:00 -
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Its tough to find quality writers and en24 writers have to have the added stigma of being rigidly anti-CFC/goons. Except for Wilhelm Arcturus who is actually in TNT- one of the eldest CFC alliances. But his blog posts are often whimsical and filled with beautiful pictures without any alliance rhetoric.
Goblin fancies himself a superior player/intellect than most which is ironic considering he is currently being treated as a doormat by TEST alliance who have allowed him once again to donate billions of isk for the privilege of being in a large 0.0 alliance. Despite all of his hurf blurf about how highsec is where the money and pvp is at- Gobbo wants to be in 0.0 since most of his characters in training are capital characters, and he recognizes caps to be a form of ~endgame~ if there were such a thing in EVE. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8451
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:19:00 -
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Wilhelm doesn't actually write for EN24, he just allows riverini to republish his content. That is also the case with Gevlon, Ripard Teg, Kirith, Mord Fiddle, Mabrick, Poetic and several others: they run their own blogs but riverini simply reposts it.
Most of EN24's own content is utter tripe, and with all of their talented writers (both of them, 'heh') writing for TMC now I don't see EN24 being anything but an aggregator of EVE blogs in the future. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
25
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:25:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Title states it all. No this isn't a troll, flame or insult toward Goblin but rather I ask a legitimate question. What exactly do his article's contribute toward in improving Eve? I read all the pretty little news sites mainly for laughes over the propoganda war and of course for the abissmal articles written on an almost daily basis by Gelvon Goblin. See I understand that all if not mainly a majority of the news written for EN24 and Mittani well are spun. But even I fail to see any legitimate contribution Goblin brings except for infuriating those who endure the pain of reading his opinions on making Eve like World Of Warcraft. His articles hold little context. Rather than taking an outward look at Eve as a whole, he often gloats from simple things like his wallet balance, to his "acceptance" into TEST (as if this was an achievement worth any merit at this stage in the war), and of course let us never forget my fellow simpletons he achieved the "gold cap" in WoW. No I'm not kidding. . Why not stick someone else to fill the gap on the "economic" section of your website? Why keep giving this person chances to make EN24 look comical? Please someone enlighten me. How exactly does comparing looting boars for gold give one credentials in speaking on the vast intricate workings of Eve's economic system? Let's not even touch his opinion on null sec, frig pvp, combat experience vs care bearing etc. My point is Riv. You read these forums. And Ripard you are a CSM. Do us all a favor and send this little green goblin back to the Horde where he belongs. (Also I fail at life for confusing Riverini and Ripard Teg. I shall take no less than 50 lashes for my incompetence  )
What a dumb post , you dont need to read his site okey? |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2076
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:30:00 -
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Autists gonna aut. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1033
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:39:00 -
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Well, this green greedy goblin fellow did have one good post.
I may be biased, as Lux is a personal friend:
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2012/08/new-scam-contract-margin-trade-scam-and.html
May I propose everyone send Lux Marquis a tip either in isk or bounty in appreciation for his hard work making Eve a better place? See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Tubrug1
The Ministry of Pyrotechnics
226
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Posted - 2013.07.24 07:37:00 -
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Ha you read EN24. Writer of The Eve Onion http://eveion.blogspot.co.uk/
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Remiel Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
1544
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Posted - 2013.07.24 07:56:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Autists gonna aut.
I'm really ******* sick of people treating autism as a joke. Kill yourself. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
992
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Posted - 2013.07.24 07:58:00 -
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Why would rivierini care about Gevlon's contribution to EVE as long as Gevlon is creating pageviews for EN24? |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
712
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:07:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:No this isn't a troll...
oh really... you are just jealous Goblin is eve famous and you are not, his innovative thinking is revolutionizing the way the game is being played. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
220
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:24:00 -
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I agree with the OP. Glevon Goblin is an absolute waste of space. He proves with every article that he knows nothing about EVE, does not listen to anyone else's opinions and has this thing about separating people into tiered categories (of which shockingly he is at the top). I like EN24, but there's more and more of these nonsense articles appearing on there, and I'm not bothering to go on there most of the time now. Now I just jump straight to the blogs like Jester's Trek, or onto alternative eve news sites.
At the end of the day EN24 wants to be seen as a serious news site, and these posts go directly against that image. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25559
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:28:00 -
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I never read his blog, but he is pretty active on the TEST forums and his contributions are usually received very well by the other forum users. GG has some rather radical ideas about eve, but sometimes this offers a fresh and new perspective and leads often enough to really good discussion (hell, we even have several CFC members still on there for the very same reason). Sure, some of his ideas are crap, but at least he doesn't insist and admits when he is wrong. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
220
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Posted - 2013.07.24 08:36:00 -
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No, all of his ideas are crap. He has no EVE knowledge and proves that with every article. If TEST are taking what he says seriously, then I am no longer surprised that TEST have failed to keep like 15 systems so far this week.
The ONLY thing that he's supposedly good at is market manipulation, but that's only based on his word. He's never shown evidence of his wealth or its source, so he may have just scammed a lot then pranced around screaming "I made half a T, honest gov".
EDIT: Oh and when has he ever admitted he was wrong? He just says anyone disagreeing with him is a troll and as such should not be listened to, and we're all "morons and slackers". He's also a PvP master, apparently better than all alliances, so maybe you should just chuck him on defense and be done with it. If we all show up in hulks, we're doomed. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25562
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:18:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: EDIT: Oh and when has he ever admitted he was wrong? He just says anyone disagreeing with him is a troll and as such should not be listened to, and we're all "morons and slackers". He's also a PvP master, apparently better than all alliances, so maybe you should just chuck him on defense and be done with it. If we all show up in hulks, we're doomed.
From the TEST forums, Posted 13 July 2013 - 04:33
Gevlon Goblin wrote:This is embarrassing. Not knowing about ..(snip).... is one thing, but I should have known that ...(snip)....
Lock the dumb thread please, let it be forgotten
I have no dealings with GG, but I don't like how you guys turn this thread into a vicious ad hominem attack against one of my allies.
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
220
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Posted - 2013.07.24 10:48:00 -
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It's not an attack. It's the truth. HE knows nothing about EVE, yet claims to be an expert. EN24 promoting him is pushing utterly incorrect information on everyone that reads it, and it's a disgrace for a site that aims to be even remotely serious.
Just for an example, he claims that because he ganked miners in high sec, that gives him 100% efficiency (even though it's really 50% as he loses a ship with every gank). HE then goes on to state that if you divide an alliance kill total by the number of members, his figure is higher (just a note, he doesn't divide his score by his total character count). From that he deems that he is better at PvP that every alliance member of every alliance.
This is just one example of a nugget of information that come from this idiot, and EN24 supports him. Ridiculous. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Melany Skibbow
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:38:00 -
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I don't understand why there is so much hate about this guy. I usually enjoy his articles, which brings a different and sometimes refreshing perspective to the game.
He is arrogant, ok. He sometimes speak as if what he says must be taken as a generally true statement when its only a point of view. But then, you just have to use your critical sense.
His article about competitive and objective oriented people was really intersting according to me, and there has been others.
But it is just stupid to try to censor him, as censorship in general is a stupid thing.
Quote:It's not an attack. It's the truth. HE knows nothing about EVE, yet claims to be an expert. This is a nice combo. "I say the complete TRUTH, he knows NOTHING". That statement is either a big lie or a proof of stupidity. He has to know at least a little bit, since he make a lot of money. He just does not play according to your playstyle, but Eve is a sandbox. It is designed to allow several way to enjoy it. I think the guy understand your way of playing better than you understand his. The only issue is that he is showing some sort of wariness about your playstyle and promotes an alternative, when you only show complete disdain for his. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3875
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:03:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:It's not an attack. It's the truth. HE knows nothing about EVE, yet claims to be an expert. EN24 promoting him is pushing utterly incorrect information on everyone that reads it, and it's a disgrace for a site that aims to be even remotely serious. Hope he preaches his wisdom to TEST all day long then. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |

Huang Mo
Tianxia Inc
69
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:08:00 -
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Considering all the hate in this thread I have taken the time to read his 2 newest posts on EN24 and the one referred in this thread:
- New scam: contract margin trade warns about a scam he fell for. VERY useful information
- PvP vs objectives apply the concepts of being competitive vs. objective-orientated on the different activities in EvE and explain how the same activity can view viewed completely different depending on your focus. This is an interesting view and it parallels the product vs. process-orientated personality type concepts used in RL management
- EVE Online AUR to save DUST 514 make the suggestion to let EVE and DUST interact through AUR. Also a very interesting suggestion
From this little sample it seems he write informative and interesting articles. However most of the comments to his posts contribute nothing, so if anything were to be removed I would suggest that the comments to his articles was shut down. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
223
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:10:00 -
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Melany Skibbow wrote:I don't understand why there is so much hate about this guy. I usually enjoy his articles, which brings a different and sometimes refreshing perspective to the game. He is arrogant, ok. He sometimes speak as if what he says must be taken as a generally true statement when its only a point of view. But then, you just have to use your critical sense. His article about competitive and objective oriented people was really intersting according to me, and there has been others. But it is just stupid to try to censor him, as censorship in general is a stupid thing. Quote:It's not an attack. It's the truth. HE knows nothing about EVE, yet claims to be an expert. This is a nice combo. "I say the complete TRUTH, he knows NOTHING". That statement is either a big lie or a proof of stupidity. He has to know at least a little bit, since he make a lot of money. He just does not play according to your playstyle, but Eve is a sandbox. It is designed to allow several way to enjoy it. I think the guy understand your way of playing better than you understand his. The only issue is that he is showing some sort of wariness about your playstyle and promotes an alternative, when you only show complete disdain for his. Well firstly he "allegedly" makes a lot of money. And the way he does that is by grind selling high and buying low, it's not hard to do, but most people don't want to spend all of their time in Jita updating orders. You can easily make enough isk to plex all of your account 2 days a month, then spend the rest of the time doing whatever you enjoy. he just spends all 30 days grinding. If that's what he likes, fair enough, but that doesn't make him a marketing master.
Read his articles. He says things like how hes going to change high sec missioning forever and then says "look, there's SOE missions for LP!" which we know. He then gives 2 god awful fits for how to dual character them. See my previous post for how hes the greatest ganker. He makes sweeping statements about sections of the game that he admits to having never experienced, such as null and wh space. Honestly, if he just put the ground work in and actually investigated what he goes on to complain about I might have some respect for him, but he doesn't, he get's an idea of what to write, then just makes up facts and statistics to support it.
Also, the way he describes people in morons and slacker, socials, anti-socials and rationals as if they are a tiered group and you are basically dirt until you read his stage, the "rational" tier makes me wonder if of a night hes out decapitating kittens and stalking people. It's truly serial killer stuff, and all utter nonsense.
I'm not asking for him to be censored, he can post to his blog as much as he wants. What I'm saying is that a news site like EN24 pushing his articles alongside respectable writers is a disgrace to the writers and the site itself.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
467
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:11:00 -
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Tubrug1 wrote:Ha you read EN24.
Gotta read something when I take a s#% t. May as well be EN24  |

destiny2
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
150
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:15:00 -
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if your all talking about Greedy Goblin stuff him in a container and shoot him into the sun. |
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