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Archangel op118
Astartes Initiative Eyrie Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:25:00 -
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I was just thinking that maybe in a couple expansions or so there could be a new class of ships, Drone Carriers all they would be is a massive drone ship that could fit the same module as the carrier does to expand how many drones/fighter they could launch but only be able to use drones.
Just a thought thou but it would be freaking awesome. |
baltec1
Bat Country
7342
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:27:00 -
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Theres a reason why supers were stopped from launching sentries. |
Andemnon Kohort
Protagonists Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:28:00 -
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What... you dont like Dominix's ? |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5250
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:29:00 -
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INB4 Doc and his ----> F&I Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25644
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:31:00 -
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And there is a reason why CCP changed the "Drone Interfacing" skill to a 20% dps bonus instead of additional drones- two times the drones meant two times the lag. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
Archangel op118
Astartes Initiative Eyrie Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:32:00 -
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Andemnon Kohort wrote:What... you dont like Dominix's ?
Yea but it would be nice to have the ability to launch more drones like a carrier but no were near the power of a carrier.
and i do like domi
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mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:37:00 -
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Dominixes used to have 15 drones back in the day, Moroses could have 30.
It was locked at 5 to keep server lag to a minimum. Drones were given flat damage increases from ship and drone skills instead of increased drone control capacity to compensate.
I do however agree that increasing drone capacity and dronebay space on some dedicated droneboats would be kinda cool. 10 drone rattlesnake anyone? ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Ersahi Kir
The Eminence Front SpaceMonkey's Alliance
226
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:50:00 -
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mama guru wrote:Dominixes used to have 15 drones back in the day, Moroses could have 30.
It was locked at 5 to keep server lag to a minimum. Drones were given flat damage increases from ship and drone skills instead of increased drone control capacity to compensate.
I do however agree that increasing drone capacity and dronebay space on some dedicated droneboats would be kinda cool. 10 drone rattlesnake anyone?
I think the 10 medium drone Eos (w/ myrmadon hull) sounds like a better idea. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:52:00 -
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Ersahi Kir wrote: I think the 10 medium drone Eos (w/ myrmadon hull) sounds like a better idea.
^^^^
T2 drone ships (and perhaps drone battleships) should definitely have the capacity to go up to ten. Nerf damage partially by all means, but please make it so these ships can put out competitive damage to their gankygun counterparts. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Arduemont
The Asteroid Solution
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:55:00 -
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As much as I love the idea, a sub-cap that could launch more than 5 drones would be hugely OP. You can get 2k DPS out of a Myrmidon as it is. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1647
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:57:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:As much as I love the idea, a sub-cap that could launch more than 5 drones would be hugely OP. You can get 2k DPS out of a Myrmidon as it is.
...what? I'm assuming you're fitting purely for gank with officer modules, right? Even then I'm severely impressed, it's hard to get that much out of a vindicator. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Arduemont
The Asteroid Solution
1629
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Posted - 2013.07.24 21:16:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Arduemont wrote:As much as I love the idea, a sub-cap that could launch more than 5 drones would be hugely OP. You can get 2k DPS out of a Myrmidon as it is. ... what? I'm assuming you're fitting purely for gank with officer modules, right? Even then I'm severely impressed, it's hard to get that much out of a vindicator.
I did mean with officer mods. Just tried to fit one in EFT and it appears that either my memory is much worse than I thought it was, or some serious nerffing has occurred. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2013.07.24 21:16:00 -
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I don't know about 2k, but I was able to get 1.2k without anything obscene. Need to overheat the guns, though.
[Myrmidon, Ganky] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
[empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Ogre II x4
Fit shield buffer / etc to taste. I'd like to see that non-comedy fit 2k DPS Myrmidon, though. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:08:00 -
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Drone ships already put out massive amounts of DPS. not hard to get 1.2k+ in them and with impressive range to boot. |
Archangel op118
Astartes Initiative Eyrie Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:16:00 -
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yea but there are not that many of them out there. |
Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
265
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:19:00 -
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Archangel op118 wrote:yea but there are not that many of them out there.
There are even fewer Sansha ships. What is your point? |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:52:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:T2 drone ships (and perhaps drone battleships) should definitely have the capacity to go up to ten. Nerf individual drone damage partially by all means, but please make it so these ships can put out competitive damage to their gankygun counterparts.
What's this about not being able to put out competitive damage?
This fit does 992 DPS heated It's empty: [Dominix, DPS]
[Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot]
[Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot]
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
[Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot]
Ogre II x5
This fit (i.e. Actually fitting modules and a tank) does 1645 DPS with 100k EHP and 900+m/s: [Dominix, DPS]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Ogre II x5 This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
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Posted - 2013.07.25 01:18:00 -
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So you want a ship that exclusively uses drones? I may be wrong but don't we already have those? You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2013.07.25 01:18:00 -
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Whatever the argument, a PURE drone boat, having only utility high slots and no other weaponry, is long overdue.
The caldari have their missile boats, so it's only fitting to have such a gratuitous gallente answer.
(Such ships, BTW, would be the end of permajam or a great hinderance to gleefully sitting there permajamming without any return fire)
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
758
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Posted - 2013.07.25 01:34:00 -
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Archangel op118 wrote:I was just thinking that maybe in a couple expansions or so there could be a new class of ships, Drone Carriers all they would be is a massive drone ship that could fit the same module as the carrier does to expand how many drones/fighter they could launch but only be able to use drones.
Just a thought thou but it would be freaking awesome.
On the surface, a nifty notion to be sure.
But TIDI is already stretched to ridiculous limits in some situations so I'm sure deliberately shitting up the grid with "stuff" is something CCP is keen to avoid.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
530
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Posted - 2013.07.25 01:36:00 -
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Tier III battleships still need a Tech 2 version. Givng them the ability to launch 5 fighters (highsec would have fighters again) or launch extra drones would definitely be cool. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
Keep up the posting little bees! |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.07.25 01:39:00 -
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You mean like the current Vexor Navy Issue/Gila and the future Ishtar? (carriers and supercarrier as well but I'll exclude for the sake of argument) Even the Dominix and Arbitrator pretty much fits this mold; the guns are not bonused and in many cases it relies purely on the strength of it's drone bay
By current design choices on ships like the ishtar it's also a very high probability that at least one of the updated versions of the Eos and Sin will also have the majority of non-drone damage removed, adding yet another good drone ship to the fray.
Really, there are far more drone ships nowadays than missile ships, so I'm not entirely sure where you are going with that comment. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
617
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Posted - 2013.07.25 02:12:00 -
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Destoya wrote:You mean like the current Vexor Navy Issue/Gila and the future Ishtar? (carriers and supercarrier as well but I'll exclude for the sake of argument) Even the Dominix and Arbitrator pretty much fits this mold; the guns are not bonused and in many cases it relies purely on the strength of it's drone bay
No, he means like a ship that has no hardpoints at all. No ubonused turrets, no unbonused missiles; they're not even an option for the highs. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
775
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Posted - 2013.07.25 04:40:00 -
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In b4 nerf Smartbombs.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
8949
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:55:00 -
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tl;dr drugs are bad
(insert suicide solution suggestion) You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
241
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:22:00 -
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I want to have a ship that can launch a hundret scout drones at once.
I'd unleash them at my enemies cackling and laughing maniacally while all they could do is crying in pain and terror "OH GAWD THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!".
I'd watch their ships hulls dissolve in a torrent of drone blaster fire, see their metal innards spilled into space in glorious streams of glittering, burning debris while their hapeless cries for mercy would slowly fade into the all encompassing white noise of my madness.
It'd be awesome, I'd never stop playing. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
HalfArse
Wixo Trading Co.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:36:00 -
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all the people saying drone boats can put out around 1000 dps are really missing the point.
ppl are asking for DRONES to do comparable damage - those fits ppl post rely on blasters. ATM a drone boat isnt all about its drones - its about guns with a few drones to pad a little extra dps.
Id love to see a propper drone boat - one that can put out 10 drones or at least bonus's that makes 5 drones dps on par with gun ships - as pointed out previously the missile/turret hardpoints would all have to be removed but still need high slots for some drone mods. |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
233
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:32:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:I want to have a ship that can launch a hundret scout drones at once.
I'd unleash them at my enemies cackling and laughing maniacally while all they could do is crying in pain and terror "OH GAWD THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!".
I'd watch their ships hulls dissolve in a torrent of drone blaster fire, see their metal innards spilled into space in glorious streams of glittering, burning debris while their hapeless cries for mercy would slowly fade into the all encompassing white noise of my madness.
It'd be awesome, I'd never stop playing.
19 alts so you can fly 20 Tristans in formation using isboxer, all the drones assigned to one ship so they act together.
Would that do as a substitute for now? |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
244
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:41:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:I want to have a ship that can launch a hundret scout drones at once.
I'd unleash them at my enemies cackling and laughing maniacally while all they could do is crying in pain and terror "OH GAWD THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!".
I'd watch their ships hulls dissolve in a torrent of drone blaster fire, see their metal innards spilled into space in glorious streams of glittering, burning debris while their hapeless cries for mercy would slowly fade into the all encompassing white noise of my madness.
It'd be awesome, I'd never stop playing. 19 alts so you can fly 20 Tristans in formation using isboxer, all the drones assigned to one ship so they act together. Would that do as a substitute for now?
Adeqate, if barely.
Once I did that I can write a book, "ISBoxer and the army of you."
Or something like that. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid
364
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:57:00 -
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This thread pops up every 6 months or so, the general jist is 'CCP give me a cheap high sec carrier'
That said I'm surprised that it is being suggested again now, given that drone boats are arguably at their most powerful since about 2005. Sentry drones are featuring in major fleet doctrines and they are highly favoured within the alliance tournament (although the AT is very different to real Eve, I accept). Capital Shop temporarily closed. |
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