Of course my kill board is trash, I haven't killed anyone. I've been playing for a month, and never said I was epic at this game or anything near.
"But this game isn't about being smooth shanky it's about knowledge and blah blah".... Right re tard, every game is about knowledge, but assuming you have the knowledge you need, then the next proper step is to gain any edge you can over your opponent. I'm saying that edge is hot keys, which all of you who don't use are trying to tell me it makes little to no difference. You're high as ****.
Approach - Q, Orbit - W, Keep Distance - E, Target - Alt, Look at - Space, Drones attack/return - D/F
High modules 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Over heat high Alt 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Mids, Naga mouse 1-6. Lows 7-12, Overheat - Alt....

Boom! You just got better at this game. Take them out, use them, get comfortable with them. Add more as you get comfortable with them. Realize they are everything but twitchy, navigating your mouse through every action you take is nothing but twitchy and sloppy feeling.

I may not have the knowledge to win a fight yet and I'm sure 99% of people would beat me. The information in this game isn't changing though, and I keep learning. What are you learning? If it is nothing, then I will catch up to what you know and I will have the advantage with smooth precise and fast actions.

Who in the hell clicks in pvp, It's hotkeys and hotkeys only, miliseconds matter, None the less these pilots win battle after battle which tells me this game is really nothing but a "I've got more time invested into skills then you" game.

I understand what you're saying.

obviously you didn't. Try again.

What you fail to realize is the art of true pvp. There is a reason no one has heard of you on this game,

Haven't heard of you before either, you haven't heard of me. What's your point? Ever heard of Dante Lobos? Or Skywalker? Or Runespear? Maybe not, maybe you did. Does that mater to them? Personal experience tells me they won't care and it doesn't matter.

it's because you aren't good. I'm not good. Admitting it costs me a mental shoulder shrug You will never be a top player because you live off this law of 1hz. It takes you two seconds to target, orbit, and activate your modules, It only takes me one.

Wanna see you lock up ships, hit orbit and activate modules faster then the maths actually allow it. If the damn ship needs two seconds to lock up **** it'll need two seconds. Your argument is invalid.


In a world where we are equally matched in every way, I shaved a second off, I win. You come at my post filled with multiple points and tell me they are all invalid because you believe you are certain about something that you are in fact completely wrong about.


Look up how the damn mechanics work. Yeah you probably did. That's how you made your billion. Or through selling a plex and a bit of work ... which would explain why you're bored too - go back to a different freemium game in that case. Being spacerich doesn't matter anyway.

Aside from that you really haven't answered the question that is my post.

What keeps us playing is different for each individual. If you can't find anything fun to do go back to playing WoW (ever noticed how the EVE playerbase ridicules WoW?). Being top 1% in that games PvP doesn't matter here. Neither does SoCom II - or any game for that matter (with the potential exception of Perpetuum).

What keeps YOU interested. So far small gang pvp has struck my interest and is something I haven't tried. What are some GOOD corps that accept new players with my drive to be top tier.

What is there to do in this game that is interesting and keeps you playing? I've been playing for a month and tried what seems like everything there is to offer. Lvl 3 security missions are a joke and slightly more dangerous then mining, sometimes you gotta shoot the guy webbing you sometimes you gotta press the e key (keep distance from) when taking too much damage. Null sec exploration is free money when you learn to get past these eve veterans that are complete trash at setting up blockades. Faction war is a waiting period until you can match the sp levels of these guys rocking atleast twice the damage and hull as you. Wormholes are just an advanced security mission where you gotta spam your dscan. In the past there have been 3 games I've dedicated my time to (World of warcraft, league of legends and socom II) I have been in the top 1% of players in their arenas, so I love every aspect of pvp, but it feels so dry in this game. I've made over a billion isk within my short time playing and am feeling as though this game presents no challenge. I've watched some youtube videos and watched guys clicking all over their screen as they fight other pilots.......Who in the hell clicks in pvp, It's hotkeys and hotkeys only, miliseconds matter, None the less these pilots win battle after battle which tells me this game is really nothing but a "I've got more time invested into skills then you" game.

I really want to enjoy this game. I love the idea of this game, I love space, space ships, pvp, making in game money, challenges and grinds but none of it seems to be keeping my attention. Where is the challenge and where is the fun in this game? What do YOU do that keeps you hooked? As of right now I feel like sitting in a hangar for a few months waiting for reasonable skills to be trained.

Its not a twitch game. Which is both good and bad. Theres real risk, you lose in WoW you really lose nothing. Lose in EvE you feel it. Some like that. Some dont.

One of the things that makes EVE interesting to me is when certain individuals from other games hop onto these forums, to talk about how superior they are or the game that they play is so much superior than EVE.

And I find it interesting that the players that are sooooooo interested in others who can hop between numerous games -- and understand all of them even -- and are so jealous.

After you seen enough games you know the routines, as game design isn't that novel. The only real difference is the culture that develops in these games, which in itself isn't special (and at worst, it resembles a junior high playground of nerds seeking revenge). I don't care too much about that culture as I tend to play with friends and/or family, and too old to care about the peer pressure younger kids feel they need to preen for to "fit in"...right, Alpheias?.

Agony Empire is pretty good with new people. As is Flying Dangerous who used to be good but went :SOV:, Verge of Collapse, Rooks and Kings, Rote Kapelle are excellent but a little more Elite in the ships they fly (Rote slightly less so then the other two). I have heard Hydra Reloaded and Outbreak. are good but have never PvPed against them. Take a look around. Link and Link are recruitment areas for in-game corps/alliances.

Which isn't what this WoW player even considers "risk", since those who do pewpewpew aren't really hurting by dying anyway (notice Goons and TEST fighting for months now with endless ships???)

4/10

Well played

What is there to do in this game that is interesting and keeps you playing?

I do hop between games. I just don't brag about it. That is the difference between you and me.

And I find it interesting that the players that are sooooooo interested in others who can hop between numerous games -- and understand all of them even -- and are so jealous.

After you seen enough games you know the routines, as game design isn't that novel. The only real difference is the culture that develops in these games, which in itself isn't special (and at worst, it resembles a junior high playground of nerds seeking revenge). I don't care too much about that culture as I tend to play with friends and/or family, and too old to care about the peer pressure younger kids feel they need to preen for to "fit in"...right, Alpheias?.

WoW had pvp.. rofl.. This epeen seeking guy is funny.. And you made a comment to EVE relying on SP being the key deciding factor but WoW was all about the gear you had so how did that pathetic of a game keep your interest when you are in a way complaining bout the same ****..

And I find it interesting that the players that are sooooooo interested in others who can hop between numerous games -- and understand all of them even -- and are so jealous.

After you seen enough games you know the routines, as game design isn't that novel. The only real difference is the culture that develops in these games, which in itself isn't special (and at worst, it resembles a junior high playground of nerds seeking revenge). I don't care too much about that culture as I tend to play with friends and/or family, and too old to care about the peer pressure younger kids feel they need to preen for to "fit in"...right, Alpheias?.

What is there to do in this game that is interesting and keeps you playing?

Where is the challenge and where is the fun in this game? What do YOU do that keeps you hooked?

What is there to do in this game that is interesting and keeps you playing?

Who in the hell clicks in pvp, It's hotkeys and hotkeys only, miliseconds matter, None the less these pilots win battle after battle which tells me this game is really nothing but a "I've got more time invested into skills then you" game.