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EGF1	Posted - 2005.12.17 02:10:00 - [1] What the f*** !!!!! I just played Technological Secrets (3 of 3), thats a new lvl3 mission with my raven and a corp member in an eagel and it was just impossible. I was almost killed within 10 or 20 seconds. Is this the new way of eve and here missions? It was a lvl 3 mission? How is this possible? I played lvl4 for about 3 months now and i never even came close to losing this raven and now in a lvl3 i almost lost it within seconds !!!!! Anyone else played this mission or another one that was just implossible? And yes, i do have maxed out shield skills, a great booster (Pith-B extra large) and good hardeners (Gist-X).
Sheerin	Posted - 2005.12.17 02:13:00 - [2] it seems missions got alot harder... i just had to warp out on a lvl 3 mission (angel spy stash) in my dominix, whereas before you'd have fallen asleep by then (almost)
HunchPunch	Posted - 2005.12.17 02:44:00 - [3] yup missions are way more difficult now, im raedy to give up on them because its not worth my time anymore, cant do lvl 3's in my apoc so screw it, cant kill the 30k tacklers with drones, that makes it imposible. unless i want to use small or medium sized turrets them maybe it might be possible, im not going to do that. waves goodbye missions
BurningJr	Posted - 2005.12.17 03:08:00 - [4] Yep They are impossible for me too. I guess I gotta mine untile thy fix it.
Kerosene	Posted - 2005.12.17 04:01:00 - [5] Dunno. I run missions in my ishtar (lvl 3) with a permanent setting of 1 explo/1 em/1 thermal hardener and 2 med repper II's. Not had a problem. Can usually tank the whole spawns then unleash the drones so I get all the loot in a nice small area. __ No corp - Taking it easy for a bit
mimik	Posted - 2005.12.17 05:08:00 - [6] Edited by: mimik on 17/12/2005 05:07:57 just done lvl4 serpenti extravaganza in a domi and if anything i thought it was easier to tank than before.
Angelic Resolution	Posted - 2005.12.17 06:44:00 - [7] I'm doing lvl 3's in my geddon with mediums and crap all skills (1.2mil SP character) and you guys can't do em in Ravens + Apocs? All I can say bahahahahahahahahahaha Just go to the mediums, have two large weapons + a heavy nos. Very simple. Or go against Snashas (Talking to you Mr. Apoc) and tank for EM.. they do .9 dmg sometimes :D
LT Catchme	Posted - 2005.12.17 06:47:00 - [8] I tried it yesterday in my prophecy. I dont have a chance at stage one. Within 10 seconds they shoot down to my Hull. This mission is crazy. And the reward is a joke, isn't it?
Nordmann	Posted - 2005.12.17 07:02:00 - [9] Edited by: Nordmann on 17/12/2005 07:02:29 try lvl 4 storyline missi...than you can cry
Amaron Ghant	Posted - 2005.12.17 08:35:00 - [10] Originally by: EGF1 Edited by: EGF1 on 17/12/2005 02:22:54 What the f*** !!!!! I just played Technological Secrets (3 of 3), thats a new lvl3 mission with my raven and a corp member in an eagle and it was just impossible. I was almost killed within 10 or 20 seconds. Is this the new way of eve and here missions? It was a lvl 3 mission? How is this possible? I played lvl4 for about 3 months now and i never even came close to losing this raven and now in a lvl3 i almost lost it within seconds !!!!! Anyone else played this mission or another one that was just implossible? And yes, i do have maxed out shield skills, a great booster (Pith-B extra large) and good hardeners (Gist-X). Did this mission last night. Warped in (in an Arma) with arrogance mode enabled, only to warp out with what was left of my tail tucked firmly between two very broken legs. "Right", I thought, time for reinforcements. I called up a corp mate in an eagle. I started a gang warp, and then stopped my ship so he warped in first. Once he aggroed everything, I warped in and started the slaughter. The only complaint I have with this mission is that the mission reward is absolutely pants. Rats have changed, deal with it. Missions in some cases, ditto. Deal with it. Stop complaining that missions are too hard. Nowhere is it written in the great book of Eve that all missions are doable. Why should they be?. If they were, missioning would just be one long boring accumulation of ever more loyalty points with zero or very little risk. Adding a smidgin of risk is a good thing. Give me some risk and some excitement. I nearly wet my pants the first time a rat broke my lock. I had to put down the book I was reading and ACTUALLY pay attention. Cool More missions like this one please CCP
Cvuos	Posted - 2005.12.17 09:22:00 - [11] I agree with Amaron Ghant. Last night I entered the first level of Black Market Hub (lvl3) in the Ferox with my Awareness Lever firmly in the "complacency/auto" position. Usually pack 5x assaults, but didn't bother to refit and came in with 5X 250mm. [ 2005.12.16 13:38:54 ] (notify) Mercenary Wingman has started trying to warp scramble you. What you say?? I barely have more than a million skillpoints, so in the toughest lvl 3s I often have to warp out. Which is fine, I often refit for max damage against whatever is left, but....Option => Removed! Poor Ferox. Got a shiny new one now, need to take more care in fitting and sacrifice some PDS for WCS. I bet the Angels whine about them too.
Mace Blackhammer	Posted - 2005.12.17 10:28:00 - [12] I havent had any problems with lvl3s in my ferox including both guristas and angels extra, spy stash, black market hub and Illegal Activity. My setup is, 5x XR Heavies Launchers, 2x 125 or 1x 125 and 1x Tractor beam 1x c5-l large, 3x T2 Active hardners, 1x Best named /t2 Large Extender 1x BCU 3x Pdu 2, I have no problem tanking any mission without boosting hardly. Also I did a lvl4 angel extra with a corpmate both of us in ravens and aside from the entire 1st lvl and most of the 2nd lvl attacking us at once, it was really easy neither of us had to boost. Heres the setup I used, 6x Limos Siege 1x Tractor Beam 1x XL C5L 1x Amp 2x Inv Field II 1x Exp Active II 1x Best named/t2 Large Extender 1x BcuII 4x PDU II
Kerosene	Posted - 2005.12.17 10:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Cvuos Got a shiny new one now, need to take more care in fitting and sacrifice some PDS for WCS. I bet the Angels whine about them too. You my friend will do alright in eve. You've not moaned, or complained... you've adapted. People with 20x your skillpoints haven't worked that out yet. Keep it up. __ No corp - Taking it easy for a bit
Tiridus	Posted - 2005.12.17 10:58:00 - [14] I had a problem with Mordus headhunters when i tried it after the server game back and got down to 10% hull on a tanking mega... Played it yesterday night and kicked ass... I just swapped 2x350mm for 2x200mm 'Scout' and trained up for T2 mag stabs and now they barely scratch my sheild. Same for rogue drones... Im running; 4x350mm (Iridium), 2x200mm 'scout'(Iridium), 2xCruise Missile Launchers (Devastator) 100MN AB II, Fixed Parrallel link Cap, Prototype Sensor booster, Small Cap battery Ballistic Control System I, 'Acolyth' signal booster, 2xT2 Mag Stabs, Fourier Tracking Enhancer, Energised Reactive & Magnetic Membranes.
dabster	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:02:00 - [15] Originally by: mimik Edited by: mimik on 17/12/2005 05:07:57 just done lvl4 serpenti extravaganza in a domi and if anything i thought it was easier to tank than before. For reference, it seems that serpentis in 0.0 belts are a lot easier than before aswell. They can barely scratch my light shieldtanking on Tempest with 1400's. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
corpus tanaki	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:03:00 - [16] Been doing alot of lvl3's after the RMR in a prophecy, havent had any problems yet. As usual when a new patch arrives there's some changes, the NPC changes have been known for months now. u cant expect to use your old setup when the rats get tougher and start to use EW.. You have to adapt and change u'r setup or u'll loose...
Blood Ghost	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:08:00 - [17] Originally by: mimik Edited by: mimik on 17/12/2005 05:07:57 just done lvl4 serpenti extravaganza in a domi and if anything i thought it was easier to tank than before. Same did a few lvl 4 gurtias missions, much easyer (although they seem to aggro a lot easyer and quicker now)
Duncan Storne	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:14:00 - [18] Is there a counter to whatever the rats are doing to break my target lock, or is it best to just keep trying to lock until it works?
Mace Blackhammer	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Duncan Storne Is there a counter to whatever the rats are doing to break my target lock, or is it best to just keep trying to lock until it works? You have to just keep trying i have noticed that the rats dont try to jam you more than once so you just have to tank the damge for about 20 seconds till you get lock back,
Hephaesteus	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Blood Ghost Originally by: mimik Edited by: mimik on 17/12/2005 05:07:57 just done lvl4 serpenti extravaganza in a domi and if anything i thought it was easier to tank than before. Same did a few lvl 4 gurtias missions, much easyer (although they seem to aggro a lot easyer and quicker now) Did Serpentis Exravaganza last night with two corp mates. Gotta say it was a real laugh everything aggroed at once on the last lvl, did we warp out nope we sat and tanked it, it was excellent. Rats flashing red in OV, ships all over the place, worried voices on TS. Yep, I love this game. ----------------------------------------------- Knowing all, when all is unknown
Embattle	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:45:00 - [21] I reckon this is more to do with people taking there eye off the ball, in the past this was possible but with some of the changes it is a bit more risky. ----------- I would have a sig but it might break a arm, leg or even worse a rule.
Joerd Toastius	Posted - 2005.12.17 11:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Mace Blackhammer Originally by: Duncan Storne Is there a counter to whatever the rats are doing to break my target lock, or is it best to just keep trying to lock until it works? You have to just keep trying i have noticed that the rats dont try to jam you more than once so you just have to tank the damge for about 20 seconds till you get lock back, Belt rats will definitely jam you more than once :P
sbaker	Posted - 2005.12.17 12:18:00 - [23] Originally by: EGF1 Edited by: EGF1 on 17/12/2005 02:22:54 What the f*** !!!!! I just played Technological Secrets (3 of 3), thats a new lvl3 mission with my raven and a corp member in an eagle and it was just impossible. I was almost killed within 10 or 20 seconds. Is this the new way of eve and here missions? It was a lvl 3 mission? How is this possible? I played lvl4 for about 3 months now and i never even came close to losing this raven and now in a lvl3 i almost lost it within seconds !!!!! Anyone else played this mission or another one that was just implossible? And yes, i do have maxed out shield skills, a great booster (Pith-B extra large) and good hardeners (Gist-X). Yes I have done that in a apoc and i got gank in 10-20...i tryed to warp in kill the frig warp out...come back in kill the frigs warp back out...but it was to late the other ships come in warp scarmble me and i was dead....oh try again...I WISH THEY MAKE A SMARTBOMB GO LIKE 8ks out...not the 5K out.... improve the range of the smart bomb! Some people have Music or MP3....I collect EvE videos that I watch during downtime...oh well
Hanns	Posted - 2005.12.17 12:19:00 - [24] thats strange for you guys having poblems, i dot lvl 3's in my zealot, and i havent noticed anything different? maby CCP have boosted lvl 3 rats against BS or somthing? try using a smaller ship?
Denrace	Posted - 2005.12.17 12:25:00 - [25] I do my Level 3 Missions in my Cerberus. Setup includes Large Extender II, couple PDU and couple BCU and Heavy Launchers. So far I have noticed a marked increasein difficulty, but have not had many problems in doing them. Although, Rogue Drones seem much easier to kill now. Is it just me? (P.S, when things get tough, I switch to the Sacrilege with full tank) ____________________________________________
EGF1	Posted - 2005.12.17 13:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Hanns thats strange for you guys having poblems, i dot lvl 3's in my zealot, and i havent noticed anything different? maby CCP have boosted lvl 3 rats against BS or somthing? try using a smaller ship? we are talking about Technological Secrets (3 of 3), this mission is difficult. not all lvl3. try this one and you will know what i'm talking about
G8torSkull	Posted - 2005.12.17 14:20:00 - [27] ya these new missions with 3 parts seem to be difficult, im currently doing this technological secrets mission got t odo lvl 3 next, but had different one yesterday, i have a massive passive tanked ferox, 10,599 sheild hps i nearly lost it to 7 frigs and 2 cruisers in this other new mission, im gonna try the 3rd part to technological secrets but will be at certain time of day since system agent sent me to is .3, actually more worried bout mission rats than i am the pie rats that frequent there http://www.cox-internet.com/g8torskull/tcd_sigg8tor125.jpg Maximum signature image dimensions are 400*120 pixels - Udat
Arshes Nei	Posted - 2005.12.17 14:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Denrace I do my Level 3 Missions in my Cerberus. Setup includes Large Extender II, couple PDU and couple BCU and Heavy Launchers. So far I have noticed a marked increasein difficulty, but have not had many problems in doing them. Although, Rogue Drones seem much easier to kill now. Is it just me? (P.S, when things get tough, I switch to the Sacrilege with full tank) Heavys do more damage now to small targets, so yeah drones should die quicker
Krana	Posted - 2005.12.17 16:58:00 - [29] Edited by: Krana on 17/12/2005 16:59:14 i had some problems on the illegal activity mission its a 3 part one too. i went in with my apoc and of course couldnt hit teh frigs. Even the raxs had a pretty good tank (i will admit it my skills are not great was a miner until last month) tryed with hvy drones and they did nothing, came back with 5 meds and did much better. But u guys are right for the dificulty lvl it is worth way more than 60lp and about 100k with the bonas.
jimigrill	Posted - 2005.12.17 17:12:00 - [30] It's all about your setup. If you have an attitude like this Originally by: HunchPunch ...unless i want to use small or medium sized turrets then maybe it might be possible, im not going to do that... you are likely to fail, get frustrated and start whining on the forums. I use only medium size turrets on my arma when doing lvl3s course thats just because i can't use large ones yet. But if i could, i would use 1 or 2 large ones to hit the cruisers a bit harder and the rest mediums. Besides that, NOS and energy neutralizers work on npc as well, and Heavy medium turrets seem to do better damage now to smaller targets. Try different combinations

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