This guy is going into future textbooks as a hero. The USA govt on the other hand is so corrupt and morally bankrupt it's going to replace Sodom and Gomorrah or Rome as a euphemism in the future lexicon. If the Nobel committee wants to retain any credibility it would strip Obama of the peace award and give it to Manning.

This guy is going into future textbooks as a hero. The USA govt on the other hand is so corrupt and morally bankrupt it's going to replace Sodom and Gomorrah or Rome as a euphemism in the future lexicon. If the Nobel committee wants to retain any credibility it would strip Obama of the peace award and give it to Manning.

Best outcome, stern message to people that leaks are bad, but sometimes necessary under certain conditions. Of which Manning did not meet, hence guilty of theft and Espionage.

Curious to see the consequences on Julian Assange next.

Could have been worse, but I would disagree this is the "best," outcome. Sends the message that if you provide information to the public about government crimes you will go to jail for 100+ years after being paraded around the media as a sodomite enemy of the state.

Journalism was already dead, but this is the official politburo nail in the coffin.

The other 20 charges he was found guilty of can carry a sentence of about 100 years

I no longer feel shame in admitting George W Bush seemed like a decent enough bloke out of his depth a bit with Cheney pulling the strings. Disagreed with what he did, but I think he had more integrity and honesty than Obama. Which I can respect to be honest, prefer the honest well meaning tyrant to the deceptive and manipulative technocrat any day.



Theoretically he is young enough that he could live out the whole sentence based on medical tech advance trends...

Which I can respect to be honest, prefer the honest well meaning tyrant to the deceptive and manipulative technocrat any day.

Manning should be flogged and crucified because he endangered lives of our servicemen who had nothing to do with the evil plans of the higher ups.

I'll take none of the above.



Does this logic apply to every soldier who endangers the lives of civilians and innocents who had nothing to do with the evil of their country's dictators?

I mean, if people who signed up for the war machine are innocent, shouldn't people who didn't take on that charge be even more innocent?

I take your opinion as meaning that collateral damage in the pursuit of justice is unreasonable. In that case, you've got a whole lot of ranking military officials and politicians to flog.

For me it's inexcusable for a service member (note I said member, not serviceman... I not sexist ) to give up information that puts other servicemen (who am I kidding... those chicks can't do the real jobs ) in sudden and totally avoidable danger. Snowden was looking out for the American people, Manning probably got Americans killed. We'll never hear about it though because that's classified.

For me it's inexcusable for a service member (note I said member, not serviceman... I not sexist ) to give up information that puts other servicemen (who am I kidding... those chicks can't do the real jobs ) in sudden and totally avoidable danger. Snowden was looking out for the American people, Manning probably got Americans killed. We'll never hear about it though because that's classified.

In my mind, what the American government did is beyond inexcusable, gone to war and invaded countries on frivolous claims and accusations (weapons of mass destruction and harboring terrorists).

All Manning did was to show that the glorious US military is fully capable of war crimes. Something that the culprits has yet to be trialed for according to the Hague Convention, because the US military and US government protects these criminals.

I no longer feel shame in admitting George W Bush seemed like a decent enough bloke out of his depth a bit with Cheney pulling the strings. Disagreed with what he did, but I think he had more integrity and honesty than Obama. Which I can respect to be honest, prefer the honest well meaning tyrant to the deceptive and manipulative technocrat any day.

there are times when you chose duty or responsibility.

Manning chose responsibility.

For me it's inexcusable for a service member (note I said member, not serviceman... I not sexist ) to give up information that puts other servicemen (who am I kidding... those chicks can't do the real jobs ) in sudden and totally avoidable danger. Snowden was looking out for the American people, Manning probably got Americans killed. We'll never hear about it though because that's classified.

Not to be rude, but that kind of thinking keeps dictators in power.

Because it's just orders, right?

While I agree that Americans should be ridiculed for being rather ignorant and ego-centric, the hate coming from Europe, most notably the UK, has to stop. In Europe, it's not prejudicial as long as the target is an American, and it's disgusting.