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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:04:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Lephia DeGrande wrote:I read it but it wouldnt change anything, the definition of Pay2Win is clearly buy stuff using Real Money to get better, i know its hard to accept for some People but trust me buying Plex to get expensive Drugs/Booster or buying an Account to Boost with fleet Booster is the same Problem.
Believe it or not. You say its the same but give no explanation other than "trust me." I highly doubt people pay ccp 15 dollars a month so they can sell a plex and buy drugs. But I bet many, likely most, booster alt accounts are paid by real money subscriptions. Moreover the people buying drugs are at least buying something made by players in game with in game isk. Extra accounts for god-mode is purely pay to win. There is no in game isk needed at all. Indeed it is inefficient to use ingame isk since there are discounts for longer than 1 month real money subscriptions. If people gave ccp as much real money for drugs and implants as they did for alt accounts ccp would not make alt accounts so much more powerful. Still I have a question: A) Are these bonuses based on the assumption ships need to be ongrid, Or B) when the link ships have to be on grid (assuming this is really ccps plan) will the bonuses increase? If its A then ccp should admit that the bonuses are not currently balanced, and will remain unbalanced until they are forced on grid.
Did I miss and step into the forum of a free to play?
Its not pay to win, you can start and sustain x-accounts indefinitely on plex, hell I bought four plexes out of three hours of scanning around over the weekend. The hilarious part is that wasn't it you saying that you have something like 8-9 billion in jump clones floating around? That will pay for a over a year of subscriptions for an alt account.
Yeech man, HTFU. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:08:00 -
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Cearain wrote:
I like the way you say htfu because I am not interested in dragging a link alt around with me on roams. That is the sort of pathetic behaviour ccp is rewarding by this mechanic.
That's not pay to win, that is you lazy. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:35:00 -
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Mournful Conciousness wrote:I think the short answer is, "You're not going to get your command ships into the plexes. You're going to be forced to fight fairly so you need to learn to deal with that and (perhaps) work on your pvp skills"
Of course the lack of command ships will affect everyone equally, so no-one will have cause to complain, unless they used to be pirates who enjoyed trolling FW folk while they went about their daily business of racking up LPs.
Reasonable?
If by fair you mean one more combat hull vs a booster....yeah sure. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:39:00 -
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Doed wrote:Zeus Maximo wrote:I like how CCP is nerfing 11 million skill points. Next year you should remove leadership skills and refund everyone that went out of their way to help a fleet.
idea of boosters = weapon timer
God forbid someone running ganglinks can't dock because 1 dumbass in his 250 person fleet aggressed a drone. Might as well make everyone suspect when one person in their fleet goes suspect. Links in their current state is way too easy to abuse, and jugding by your whining you abuse them all the time, CCP should nerf your ability to post, crybaby.
Guess what, blob alliances are still going to abuse them.
Its just going to be more of a headache arranging the fleet. Even ongrid you would just have the boosts in a BC or a brick tanked loki with near 200k eHP and the logi to back it up.
What is a gang of 20 going to do that only HAS three booster spots available Fleet, Wing, and, Squad, how many more slots are you going to dedicate to logi, its not like its hard to spot a booster ship in a crowd, its a pretty obvious graphic.
....so the "boosts aren't fair" crowd are STILL going to get more boosts then they have available jammed down their throat. But if they want them at all they have to dedicate a very expensive clone AND likely a hull that is as much or more to get any advantage.
So by all means, keep crying. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:41:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Just one quick question (and no, I haven't searched 43 pages of posts to see if this has been asked yet): why not just eliminate the Warfare Processor for Strat Cruisers if the bonus on them is going to be castrated from 5% to 2% per level? This basically will end my use of a Loki as a booster in low... No tears, just wondering why even bother keeping it around anymore?
None, they want you in a slower less manuverable command ship.
.....because that is the perfect match for hack and slash style low sec fights, amirite., |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:39:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Onictus wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Just one quick question (and no, I haven't searched 43 pages of posts to see if this has been asked yet): why not just eliminate the Warfare Processor for Strat Cruisers if the bonus on them is going to be castrated from 5% to 2% per level? This basically will end my use of a Loki as a booster in low... No tears, just wondering why even bother keeping it around anymore? None, they want you in a slower less manuverable command ship. .....because that is the perfect match for hack and slash style low sec fights, amirite., Blob is Best. (I guess)
Wasn't the blob screaming about OGB all of this time. We just assume there are going to be boosters present. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.28 13:58:00 -
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Mournful Conciousness wrote:
I think that's a reasonable idea which would work well with on-grid boosting, particularly with skirmish links. It would go some way to balancing the odds of a smaller fleet, keep boosters on grid where they should be, and still not disincentivise a large fleet from taking gang links.
Anyone agree?
Except that the best boosters are now slow cruisers that move like battleships, sure.
Guess what the high value target is, particularly if everyone is forced onto grid. So while the blob applies webs, points, and painters to you boosts how exactly are you going to save it?
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.08.28 17:47:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:blah blah blah all hypothetical
at the end of the day you are still 35%+ better by the use of something that is not commited to the fight at all
Get used to the fact that OGB's are getting phased out
Exactly why the toon I was training for a booster alt went full stop like 6 months ago, fortunately before I got to anything expensive. On grid boosting just means that boosting is going to only be availble to the blob.
Would you put 2bil in T3 and a commandship booster with a 500ish mil in ship and AND a billion in clone on grid against better numbers dual boxing?
...I wouldn't
Its no nevermind to me. |
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