I am concerned about the impact of this change on frigates - buffer-tanking isn't in a good place as is (unless you run with a HG Slave set) and this change will only make matters worse.

Where is the problem that you are trying to fix by giving small armor repairers a 15% boost? Is the dual-rep Incursus, Vengeance, ... too weak as is or are you just trying to make these ships unkillable? Do you want active tank to be the only option on brawling frigates?

edit: Single MSE buffer-tanked frigates are already simply not viable. In a 400mm plated frigate with slave set I can barely outlast dual ASB setups, without slave set I would lose such fights 7 times out of 10. Contrary to public belief the vast majority of FW players does not have Tengu or Legion at hand. Compensating for a nerf to fleet boosters by giving an increase to all active reps will shift the balance of power even further away from buffer setups.

Since we are reducing the power level of defensive gang links in Odyssey 1.1, we are planning to take the opportunity to also tweak local repairing some more. We will be boosting the rep amount of most local repair modules, such that someone with gang links after the patch will still rep less, but someone without gang links will rep more than they do now.

No, you're wrong here. Someone with OGB will still be better than someone without. That's a simple true fact and unavoidable until the end of OGB.

However, that gap is closing. Links are getting nerfs in the tanking department while straight up local repping gets buffs. As Fozzie states, this reduces a fully boosted local tank but increases a solo tank. It also, by way of the link nerfs, reduces logistics and buffer effectiveness on a relative and actual scale.

I am concerned about the impact of this change on frigates - buffer-tanking isn't in a good place as is (unless you run with a HG Slave set) and this change will only make matters worse.

Where is the problem that you are trying to fix by giving small armor repairers a 15% boost? Is the dual-rep Incursus, Vengeance, ... too weak as is or are you just trying to make these ships unkillable? Do you want active tank to be the only option on brawling frigates?

edit: Single MSE buffer-tanked frigates are already simply not viable. In a 400mm plated frigate with slave set I can barely outlast dual ASB setups, without slave set I would lose such fights 7 times out of 10. Contrary to public belief the vast majority of FW players does not have Tengu or Legion at hand. Compensating for a nerf to fleet boosters by giving an increase to all active reps will shift the balance of power even further away from buffer setups. Go out and actually try frigate pvp - the majority of enemies will already be active tanked and most of the rest run entirely tankless setups (kiting destroyers, dampening condors, ...). Try flying a buffer-tanked frigate without 3b in implants and report the results, there's a reason why almost nobody is flying buffer tank as is.

So basically you guys are balancing the onboard reps but not the remotes and not the drones?

Is that not a bit stupid? Wont that just make your future balance issues that much more complicated?

Also what is the philosophy about not boosting some meta levels?
It seems extremely stupid to mess up values of meta by some artificial usability and not by fixing the drop rates?

Ideally theses things should be considered in a much more holistic approach, so for example overheating tollerance is high on low meta, but destruction chance is also high, and vice versa on higher meta. Then tweak the drop rates and consider using a global counting serverside and increase drop chance when universal population drops below certain thresholds.

When you change "nerf" bonuses it really just mess up the whole intuitive aspect of guessing values and usability..

Not if you nerf said links at the same time as you boost local reps. Hint: read the links thread.

CCP Fozzie, with the buffs to self reps and reduction in warfare link bonuses (specifically the rep speed and cap usage), what is the net change? e.g. a player running a single rep with the fleet booster for rep speed before odyssey 1.1, and after.
I fail horribly at that type of stacking math.
so it's a boon so un-boosted self reppers, but what's the net change to boosted reppers?

Thanks

In the simplest possible case (assuming no resist modules on the tanking ship to avoid complications arising from stacking penalties), current tanking links increase the strength of an active tank by a factor of 2.36. After the change, a full suite of tanking links will only increase local tank strength by a factor of 1.82 (if boosted by a maxed-out command ship) or 1.77 (if boosted by a maxed out T3). Combined with the 15% increase in local tanks due to the repper buff, this means that a boosted local tank after the patch will be 2.09 times stronger than an unboosted local tank on TQ today if the bonuses are coming from a command ship, and around 2.03 times stronger than an unboosted local tank today if the bonuses are coming from a T3.

TL,DR - after Odyssey 1.1, linked active armor tanks will be around 14-15% weaker than they are on TQ today.

yes, your math is correct, but youre looking at it the wrong way.

if a ship tanks 100 DPS with the old links it would tank 100 * 2.36 = 236 from a max bonused T3 (right now)
with the new local bonus the ship will tank 115 DPS with the new links, it will tank 115 * 1.82 = 209.3

not only is this way less, its also way less of a difference

^^
except when they nerf OGBs at the same time.

Yes, I agree a boost to local tanks is a boost to OGBs, but consider the following:

the local tank boost is a 15% boost, the OGB nerf is a 25% nerf so the result is that OGB links are 10% less effective.

Also youre forgetting the biggest thing that OGB links are used for, RR, which isnt getting a boost at all so this is a straight nerf to OGBs

or are you somehow trying to say that the gap between OGB and non OGB local tanking is somehow bigger after this proposal? Because you can say that, but youd be unambiguously wrong

It's good thing they are looking for ways to remove OGB. Isn't that good?