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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
6830
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:23:00 -
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This is one of a few threads discussing issues surrounding our changes to Command Ships, warfare links, and local repair modules for Odyssey 1.1 and beyond.
The other threads are : Warfare Links, Mindlinks, Gang Bonuses Command Ship Balancing Command Ship model changes
Since we are reducing the power level of defensive gang links in Odyssey 1.1, we are planning to take the opportunity to also tweak local repairing some more. We will be boosting the rep amount of most local repair modules, such that someone with gang links after the patch will still rep less, but someone without gang links will rep more than they do now.
This will be a fairly short OP but I wanted to keep the feedback thread separate.
Increase the rep amount for all armor repairers (including AARs) by 15%
Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15%
Let us know what you think! Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Landaz
Raven's Flight Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:26:00 -
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Wil u marry me ccp fozzie? My love for u is unending! |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2100
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:31:00 -
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Good to see acknowledgement of a problem. Shield boosting recently has become synonymous with ASBs and whilst I'm not sure if this is all that is needed, it certainly is a step in the right direction. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
XXSketchxx
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:35:00 -
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Will these changes affect capital reps? I know you don't say they won't, just want to make sure we're on the same page.
Cause this could have an interesting effect on combat triage. |
Capqu
Love Squad
188
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:36:00 -
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thanks fozzie http://pizza.eve-kill.net |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:37:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:Will these changes affect capital reps? I know you don't say they won't, just want to make sure we're on the same page.
Cause this could have an interesting effect on combat triage.
They will affect local capital reps, yes. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Caleb Ayrania
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
201
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:40:00 -
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Will this apply to repair drones also? (Would be nice with maybe a bit more than 15% on drones imho)
Is it going to be on all meta levels, and could some minor gradient balance be considered?
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2059
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:40:00 -
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So my mission pimpmobile will now be even more invulnerable? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
383
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:42:00 -
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TBH I'm not sure armour reps can take any absolute nerf, after link changes are factored in. Brawling is just dumb with cheap, easy, low SP ABCs and neut geddons now in the game. |
Judas II
Dark-Rising
23
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:42:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: Increase the rep amount for all armor repairers (including AARs) by 15%
Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15%
Daft question, are faction Shield boosters buffed or not? (Dread Guristas, Pith A/B/C/X-type etc etc) |
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Kasutra
Tailor Company Hashashin Cartel
210
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:44:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:So my mission pimpmobile will now be even more invulnerable? Your pimpmobile has a deadspace booster, right? If that's the case, no.
Judas II wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote: Increase the rep amount for all armor repairers (including AARs) by 15%
Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15%
Daft question, are faction Shield boosters buffed or not? (Dread Guristas, Pith A/B/C/X-type etc etc) Faction boosters are not deadspace or officer boosters, and thus will be buffed. |
Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:44:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: We will be boosting the rep amount of most local repair modules, such that someone with gang links after the patch will still rep less, but someone without gang links will rep more than they do now.
Sweet. That was exactly what I wanted.
We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
6853
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:49:00 -
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Judas II wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote: Increase the rep amount for all armor repairers (including AARs) by 15%
Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15%
Daft question, are faction Shield boosters buffed or not? (Dread Guristas, Pith A/B/C/X-type etc etc)
Faction boosters like Dread Guristas are buffed, Deadspace boosters like Pith are not. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Xequecal
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:52:00 -
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Everyone go sell your Gist shield boosters now before the price crashes through the floor, their efficiency was why they were so valued and they just lost a huge amount of that advantage. |
Mirauder
Aperture Harmonics K162
0
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:52:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15%[/b]
Hating on the rich man |
Kururugi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:54:00 -
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I wish to pvp with shield boosters instead of ASB's. will it ever happen again? Theres more than ASB you know...
good news anyway. |
monkfish1234
The Knights of Spamalot The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:54:00 -
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this almost sounds like your encouraging something other than buffer and logis........
possibly the best change in the last 4 years. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2059
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:54:00 -
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Kasutra wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:So my mission pimpmobile will now be even more invulnerable? Your pimpmobile has a deadspace booster, right? If that's the case, no. Nope, a deadspace armor repper. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
387
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:55:00 -
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Well it's a start! I'm excited to test these changes out, and I'm excited for armor to be a viable option. Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day. |
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project Surely You're Joking
243
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:58:00 -
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Excellent changes! Yet another wave of +1s for Fozzie How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:01:00 -
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Kururugi wrote:I wish to pvp with shield boosters instead of ASB's. will it ever happen again? Theres more than ASB you know...
good news anyway.
For that they would need to use less capacitor.
THe main reason why ASB are superior is not the raw repair they ahve. Its that the normal shield boosters almost mandate you to bring a Cap injector, therefore another mid slot.
That is not feasible in many ships.. |
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:01:00 -
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Nice |
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project Surely You're Joking
243
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:02:00 -
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Mirauder wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:
Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15%[/b]
Hating on the rich man
The only way to PVP with shield boosters currently is with ASBs or Deadspace, so buffing T2/Faction ones will make shield tanking cheaper. Its a good change. How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Zak Matrix
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:02:00 -
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I think you should really balance the deadspace and officer modules on the same run, after these changes T2/faction boosters will be more effective than pith C modules. and officer modules have been underpowered for their level for ages.
and this is also kick in the nuts for those people who have invested in these modules, this will drop the prices a lot. |
Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
753
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:03:00 -
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Quote:Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15%
I understand that giving 15% to deadspace/officer reps will make them too OP, but not giving nothing will make then loose the advantage they had in compaction to "normal" ones, is that intencional ?
why not given them 5% to keep them in line, proportionally speaking, with the "normal" ones? Unforgiven Storm for CSM 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13. (If I don't get in in the next 5 years I will quit trying) :-) |
Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
123
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:06:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm wrote:Quote:Increase the shield bonus of all shield boosters (except for deadspace/officer reps and ASBs) by 15% I understand that giving 15% to deadspace/officer reps will make them too OP, but not giving nothing will make then loose the advantage they had in compaction to "normal" ones, is that intencional ? why not given them 5% to keep them in line, proportionally speaking, with the "normal" ones?
Someones about to lose out on deadspace/officer mod sales.
Good change. Local reps may become more viable, with the nos changes....
Yea I can see this happening. |
Baren
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
49
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:07:00 -
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CCP FOZZIE, If you dont incease ASB`s aswell wont that be considered another nerf to asb`s? it will the second nerf of ASB`s. you couldnt atleast give ASB`s a 5% increase... not everyship has bonuses like the new vaga and vargur |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1886
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:10:00 -
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didn't see that coming but i don't complain. Hoped for something like "ship resistance influences remote rep amount" or something similar to close the gap. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1189
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:13:00 -
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Christmas in August? Sweet There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Hybrid tech I ammo boost |
Johan March
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:15:00 -
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A good change; but I am also of the opinion that deadspace and officer modules should be buffed by 5% or 7.5% to keep them in line with the other modules. |
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