Gang links give bonus to local reps. Therefore giving bonuses to local reps boosts gang links.

Its time to post the numbers. This like every boost to active tanking is a ninja boost to ogb alts.

Not as part of this change no.

So basically you guys are balancing the onboard reps but not the remotes and not the drones?

Is that not a bit stupid? Wont that just make your future balance issues that much more complicated?

Also what is the philosophy about not boosting some meta levels?
It seems extremely stupid to mess up values of meta by some artificial usability and not by fixing the drop rates?

Ideally theses things should be considered in a much more holistic approach, so for example overheating tollerance is high on low meta, but destruction chance is also high, and vice versa on higher meta. Then tweak the drop rates and consider using a global counting serverside and increase drop chance when universal population drops below certain thresholds.

When you change "nerf" bonuses it really just mess up the whole intuitive aspect of guessing values and usability..

small/medium active armor repairers are already more efficient than small/medium shield boosters, why would they make it MORE out-of-whack?

Not if you nerf said links at the same time as you boost local reps. Hint: read the links thread.

CCP Fozzie, with the buffs to self reps and reduction in warfare link bonuses (specifically the rep speed and cap usage), what is the net change? e.g. a player running a single rep with the fleet booster for rep speed before odyssey 1.1, and after.
I fail horribly at that type of stacking math.
so it's a boon so un-boosted self reppers, but what's the net change to boosted reppers?

Thanks

SHield tanks are still notably more powerful then armor tanks for a variety of reasons, why not give shield reps a slightly smaller boost then armor reps?
Like, say, 10%? or 12.5%?

Aside from the ancillary shield boosters (which aren't getting buffed) and the Gist line of shield boosters, which also aren't getting boosted, shield really isn't better than armor.

This but not just rep speed. Assume full ogb bonuses.

T2 X-Large w/ T2 shield boost amp vs T2 LAR

Fight!

Not to even mention you can fit X-L booster to cruisers...

CCP Fozzie, with the buffs to self reps and reduction in warfare link bonuses (specifically the rep speed and cap usage), what is the net change? e.g. a player running a single rep with the fleet booster for rep speed before odyssey 1.1, and after.
I fail horribly at that type of stacking math.
so it's a boon so un-boosted self reppers, but what's the net change to boosted reppers?

Thanks

Yes. comparing two modules to one module is extremely honest. I'm floored by your amazing argument. Why don't you ready my previous two posts and try again?

T2 X-L booster Cyclone vs T2 LAR Harbinger

I hope there is going to be a module tiercide or rebalance soon then.

I find it really annoying that faction and deadspace modules are all over the place with regards to fitting/effectiveness.

I hate the way some modules are easier to fit and have the best stats. I would far prefer:

One type easy to fit

One type excellent performance

One type an all rounder but not easy to fit and not best performance

Ok, first of all, you're comparing a ship with a boosting bonus to a ship without a rep or resist bonus, which is highly dishonest to begin with.

Second, any viable XLSB Cyclone fit has no SBA, because the first Invuln II is better than an SBA. It's pretty comparable to say a triple rep Myrmidon, due to the much lower fitting on the medium reps. XLSB cyclone will need CPU fitting mods to fit a full rack of launchers and BCSes for sure.

Exactly the point. You need 3 repaires + rep bonus to match Cyclones repping power with only one shield booster.

In the simplest possible case (assuming no resist modules on the tanking ship to avoid complications arising from stacking penalties), current tanking links increase the strength of an active tank by a factor of 2.36. After the change, a full suite of tanking links will only increase local tank strength by a factor of 1.82 (if boosted by a maxed-out command ship) or 1.77 (if boosted by a maxed out T3). Combined with the 15% increase in local tanks due to the repper buff, this means that a boosted local tank after the patch will be 2.09 times stronger than an unboosted local tank on TQ today if the bonuses are coming from a command ship, and around 2.03 times stronger than an unboosted local tank today if the bonuses are coming from a T3.

TL,DR - after Odyssey 1.1, linked active armor tanks will be around 14-15% weaker than they are on TQ today.

The cyclone needs fitting mods to make an XLSB work, the Myrmidon doesn't need them for its rep fit.

So if we isolate the local rep bonus would this be accurate?

Assume regular incursus with no links is tanking 100 dps. After this local rep bonus it will tank 115 dps.

The exact same incursus with a fully bonused t3 ship would be tanking 177 dps without this local bonus. With the local bonus it will tank 203 dps.

So this bonus adds 26 dps of tank to the linked ship but only 15 dps to the unlinked ship.

This local tank bonus effectively mitigates the "nerf" to t3 ogb tank bonuses by 39%.

I think the nerf to ogbs was way too weak and doesn't need to be mitigated.