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Kitzunigari
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:53:00 -
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Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps. |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2168
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:56:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps.
Yes... they go suspect.
Which means you and EVERYBODY in EVE can shoot at them. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Kitzunigari
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:58:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps. Yes... they go suspect. Which means you and EVERYBODY in EVE can shoot at them.
but they dont. and even if they did, youd need a huge ******* fleet of lemmings to break 3 guardians. and barring that that doesnt stop these guys from docking straight up from warp after the fight. dont defend a broken mechanic. |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2168
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:00:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps. Yes... they go suspect. Which means you and EVERYBODY in EVE can shoot at them. but they dont. and even if they did, youd need a huge ******* fleet of lemmings to break 3 guardians. and barring that that doesnt stop these guys from docking straight up from warp after the fight. dont defend a broken mechanic.
1 Curse will mess up 3 guardians... hell any ship with neuts will.. And how would they warp if they are scrammed? "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Kitzunigari
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:05:00 -
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so basically your expecting people to run to your rescue and undock these perfect counters and get tackle etc when they dont give two ***** from sunday. broken mechanic is broken. |

Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
69
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:05:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps. Yes... they go suspect. Which means you and EVERYBODY in EVE can shoot at them. It sounds like the best place to run a duel is not the sun.
It's just outside a high traffic station. That way when logis interfere, you're more likely to have someone shoot them. |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2168
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:09:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:so basically your expecting people to run to your rescue and undock these perfect counters and get tackle etc when they dont give two ***** from sunday. broken mechanic is broken.
It would only be broken if the Logi did not go suspect like it did before crimewatch.
If your crying about this your going to cry about alot of things in EVE for a long time. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Kitzunigari
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:10:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:so basically your expecting people to run to your rescue and undock these perfect counters and get tackle etc when they dont give two ***** from sunday. broken mechanic is broken. It would only be broken if the Logi did not go suspect like it did before crimewatch. If your crying about this your going to cry about alot of things in EVE for a long time.
ive been playing eve for 5 years. i know how it works. but i just returned from a break and this duel system is new. and allowing logi to interfere is just ******. ill just buy 10 falcon alts. and be a total ******* *** everytime i duel someone. |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2168
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:12:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:so basically your expecting people to run to your rescue and undock these perfect counters and get tackle etc when they dont give two ***** from sunday. broken mechanic is broken. It would only be broken if the Logi did not go suspect like it did before crimewatch. If your crying about this your going to cry about alot of things in EVE for a long time. ive been playing eve for 5 years. i know how it works. but i just returned from a break and this duel system is new. and allowing logi to interfere is just ******. ill just buy 10 falcon alts. and be a total ******* *** everytime i duel someone.
You do that... When your Falcons get popped by Concord when they try to jam him without aggression remember to cry here as well.
There is a difference between aggression and support. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Kitzunigari
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:26:00 -
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its cool this game is broke as **** thats why its dying. you can defend it if you want. |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2169
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:31:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:its cool this game is broke as **** thats why its dying. you can defend it if you want.
I not defending anything, I am just pointing out your idiocy and inability to deal with a situation. The corner stone of EVE being that anybody can come in and spoil your day.
And the dying reply. That should be enough to point out to anybody how little you know. Even after buying that char. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
287
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:35:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:its cool this game is broke as **** thats why its dying. you can defend it if you want.
If it's dying then why did you come back?
Also, stuffz, I must have, give them to me when you leave.
Also also, if you can't handle "duelling".....then don't duel.
On a more serious note, duelling on a trade hub undock is pretty much the best way to make sure no 'neutral logi' interferes.
Having a bunch of friends fleeted up with you is also a very good way to make sure 'neutral logi' doesn't interfere......
I recommend neuts, damps, and of course, the classic method of breaking a logi chain, ECM.
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Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP Mass Overload
355
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:38:00 -
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Eve is DYING! post number...., f@ck, I lost count... |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3419
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:52:00 -
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Too bad... bigmouth is either forumalt or simply in npc corp... |

VegasMirage
Side Effects. Serious Space Holding Alliance
760
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:58:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps.
you can mention names  no more games... it's real this time!!! |

blossom22
Side Effects. Serious Space Holding Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:02:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19020008
sure you can mention names Stuffing gooey balls of protein in Marmites Mouth |

VegasMirage
Side Effects. Serious Space Holding Alliance
767
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:23:00 -
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Kitzunigari wrote:its cool this game is broke as **** thats why its dying. you can defend it if you want.
you are crying, I approve of this product and or service no more games... it's real this time!!! |

Psychotic Monk
Big Red Wardec Co Petition Blizzard
1435
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:48:00 -
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OP, you were looking for honourable combat in eve online? Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:59:00 -
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Wah? |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
962
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:19:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:OP, you were looking for honourable combat in eve online?
Not just that, but he was looking for honourable combat from Rebirth.
OP must have been hiding under a rock during his "5 years of EVE." Welcome to the sunlight son!
You should probably also read up on how bounties work, as I suspect the next post from you will be "I was bountied and this is unfair!" I'm Denzel Washington, and I play chess. |

Sublime Rage
Corpus Alienum Game 0f Tears
673
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:19:00 -
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what is honorable combat? i thought that's just a fairy story.one of those cute concepts that look good on paper but **** in reality ( like democracy ) ROFL. get used to it,this is eve |

Antsyman
Katt's Paw and CO.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:29:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:OP, you were looking for honourable combat in eve online? Not just that, but he was looking for honourable combat from Rebirth.OP must have been hiding under a rock during his "5 years of EVE." Welcome to the sunlight son! You should probably also read up on how bounties work, as I suspect the next post from you will be "I was bountied and this is unfair!" And keep in mind, most Rebirth. pilots fly with mandatory Slave set implants AND, most of the time, Dual T3 links.
Moral: Don't ever think that you gonna have a fair fight from Rebirth. even if it apparently looks like it ship wise. Also, except maybe for Holeysheet1 in Marmite, they are the spammiest (new word) neutral reppers in hisec. |

Sublime Rage
Corpus Alienum Game 0f Tears
676
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:46:00 -
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Antsyman wrote:Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:OP, you were looking for honourable combat in eve online? Not just that, but he was looking for honourable combat from Rebirth.OP must have been hiding under a rock during his "5 years of EVE." Welcome to the sunlight son! You should probably also read up on how bounties work, as I suspect the next post from you will be "I was bountied and this is unfair!" And keep in mind, most Rebirth. pilots fly with mandatory Slave set implants AND, most of the time, Dual T3 links. Moral: Don't ever think that you gonna have a fair fight from Rebirth. even if it apparently looks like it ship wise. Also, except maybe for Holeysheet1 in Marmite, they are the spammiest (new word) neutral reppers in hisec.
You just had to summon his holyness' name didn't you ! now we wont hear the end of it =)) |

NightmareX
Blood Thirsty Pirates With Rum
131
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:46:00 -
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Antsyman wrote:Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:OP, you were looking for honourable combat in eve online? Not just that, but he was looking for honourable combat from Rebirth.OP must have been hiding under a rock during his "5 years of EVE." Welcome to the sunlight son! You should probably also read up on how bounties work, as I suspect the next post from you will be "I was bountied and this is unfair!" And keep in mind, most Rebirth. pilots fly with mandatory Slave set implants AND, most of the time, Dual T3 links. And don't forget that they also use rather expensive officer / deadspace modules to on their ships to. I'm ex-Rebirth, so i know this 
My current EVE videos.
Rebirth 4: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131123
Bringers of Hatred: http://tinyurl.com/BOHINFOD |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
226
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:59:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps. Yes... they go suspect. Which means you and EVERYBODY in EVE can shoot at them. It sounds like the best place to run a duel is not the sun. It's just outside a high traffic station. That way when logis interfere, you're more likely to have someone shoot them. This.^
Duel where there are lots of fanged passers-by. You can pretty much be assured that someone will take a bite out of yellow flashies, just because.
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VegasMirage
Side Effects. Serious Space Holding Alliance
769
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:38:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps. Yes... they go suspect. Which means you and EVERYBODY in EVE can shoot at them. It sounds like the best place to run a duel is not the sun. It's just outside a high traffic station. That way when logis interfere, you're more likely to have someone shoot them. This.^ Duel where there are lots of fanged passers-by. You can pretty much be assured that someone will take a bite out of yellow flashies, just because.
If you haven't figured out yet, the OP got baited off station b/c its hard to kill a dual ASB Maelstrom on station.
baited-n-ganked ::ouch:: no more games... it's real this time!!! |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
131
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:40:00 -
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The only thing broke about the duel mechanic is the popup that announces it as "honorable combat" to everyone on grid. Eve is unfair. Its best to be the one doing the unfair than the one receiving the unfair. I can't wait until the OP finds out about off-grid boosters. I have 5 different chars that I play. This may be my main, or maybe not. I have no idea. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
227
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:17:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Kitzunigari wrote:Ok so I wont name names here. But I get challenged to a duel. We go to the sun and i put him into structure and then boom. he brings 3 effing guardians out and reps himself. Seriously? how is that honorable combat? This mechanic is utterly ******* broken. Concord needs to step in. this mechanic is abused like hell in wardecs as well. Something needs to be done about remote reps. Yes... they go suspect. Which means you and EVERYBODY in EVE can shoot at them. It sounds like the best place to run a duel is not the sun. It's just outside a high traffic station. That way when logis interfere, you're more likely to have someone shoot them. This.^ Duel where there are lots of fanged passers-by. You can pretty much be assured that someone will take a bite out of yellow flashies, just because. If you haven't figured out yet, the OP got baited off station b/c its hard to kill a dual ASB Maelstrom on station. baited-n-ganked ::ouch:: Thank you. No, I *hadn't* figured it out yet. Hadn't bothered to try, to be honest - I don't, as general rule, answer requests for duels. Especially not anywhere where I don't control the 'high ground,' so-to-speak. Result being, I miss some of the subtlties of this aspect of EVE.
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
227
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:23:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:The only thing broke about the duel mechanic is the popup that announces it as "honorable combat" to everyone on grid. Eve is unfair. Its best to be the one doing the unfair than the one receiving the unfair. I can't wait until the OP finds out about off-grid boosters. "Honorable" means I think, in this context, that both parties may open fire without any security status hit. Nothing more, nothing less. "Dirty pool" is still "fair game." 
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
131
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:29:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:The only thing broke about the duel mechanic is the popup that announces it as "honorable combat" to everyone on grid. Eve is unfair. Its best to be the one doing the unfair than the one receiving the unfair. I can't wait until the OP finds out about off-grid boosters. "Honorable" means I think, in this context, that both parties may open fire without any security status hit. Nothing more, nothing less. "Dirty pool" is still "fair game." 
Well, I didn't quote the whole thing. It says honorable 1v1 combat. But in Eve its Everybody vs. Everybody. The message is misleading.
The rule I keep in mind is, Its always a trick. If it doesn't look like a trick, then I'm just not experienced enough to know what the trick is. Sometimes I know what the trick is and proceed anyway because I think I have a counter. Sometimes I leroy into it anyway because .. why not thats why. I have 5 different chars that I play. This may be my main, or maybe not. I have no idea. |
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