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TomHorn
Caldari Waffen Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:24:00 -
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unidentified Brutor male believed to be between the ages of 18-25, who was apparently taken into custody early this morning after resorting to self-defense in an incident that resulted in the deaths of three ethnic Gallente men
Source
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/atlanins-distribution-center-attack-sparks-unrest-in-essence-59-detained/ |
Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
234
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:33:00 -
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Escalation, here we come. How wonderful.
/sarcasm |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1769
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:38:00 -
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Honestly, I'm impressed at that man's self-defense skills. If he ever emerges from SDII custody, there may be a place for him with Hakatain Dynasty Security.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
279
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:59:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Honestly, I'm impressed at that man's self-defense skills. If he ever emerges from SDII custody, there may be a place for him with Hakatain Dynasty Security.
I heard a bunch of Minmatar invaded Colelie in self-defence. Maybe you could hire them too. |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
136
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:09:00 -
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And thus it begins...
I fear Lady Tyrathlion is correct and we are going to see an escalation of these disturbances. Given the recent comments and other activities the last week or so, it would be naive to assume that there is going to be a calm and measured reaction from those involved.
With the elections coming soon, the timing of all these events leaves me wondering...I'm not one to pander to conspiracy theories, but everything seems a little too coincidental.
Though, to be honest, with a former arms-dealer running the Federation with the support of someone like Blacque and his Eagles, it makes a certain amount of sense...generate conflict for profit and power.
I hope that the citizens of the Federation don't get swept up in the heat of the moment and make a terrible mistake.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
3107
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:15:00 -
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Now there's a thought. Since we were nice enough to hand Broteau over to Republic justice, they can surely reciprocate by handing over members of a known terrorist organisation.
Mane 614
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
3359
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:30:00 -
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Ms. Saissore, terrible mistakes are the order of the day, where the Republic and Federation are concerned.
I am very curious as to why an incident of self-defense warranted the intervention of the SDII. We don't even know if the Matar in question was a Federation citizen or an emigre from the Republic, however, so it could be warranted if they suspect he was an agent of the Republic.
Hopefully he'll be released soon, and without untoward treatment by the Black Eagles. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that the Black Eagles are known for their restraint. As they may say, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." |
Zaara Arran
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:30:00 -
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WHY THEY ALWAYS TRYIN'A KEEP THE BRUTOR DOWN.
THAT'S RACIST. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1947
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:32:00 -
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Zaara Arran wrote:WHY THEY ALWAYS TRYIN'A KEEP A BRUTOR DOWN.
THAT'S RACIST.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations |
Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
282
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:32:00 -
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I would like to applaud the Big Four for their unity and cooperation. They certainly are showing Humanity the path forward to the future. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
861
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:49:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Now there's a thought. Since we were nice enough to hand Broteau over to Republic justice, they can surely reciprocate by handing over members of a known terrorist organisation.
Nice enough to turn him over? 
Just where do you get the idea that the Republic has any of these people in custody? There's been no such announcement.
Also, remember that after the attacks the group was strongly denounced by the Republic and the head of the RSS stated that, GÇ£The Federation has our full support in apprehending these terroristsGÇ¥.
The Republic's been trying to capture the Bloody Hands leaders for years. There's no support for them in the government or among the majority of the population. We see these people for the criminals that they are and want them brought to justice.
With that bit of reason out of the way, the usual suspects may now return to their normally scheduled Matari bashing.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1771
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Posted - 2013.08.02 16:54:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:I would like to applaud the Big Four for their unity and cooperation. They certainly are showing Humanity the path forward to the future.
You're right, they are. Unironically.
Times of strife and discomfort teach us more than times of peace and harmony. We're learning a lot about each other and ourselves these days, and that kind of learning is a path to the future.
It's a stony, bramble-grown path that's hard to walk, but that very difficulty makes traversing it all the more of an accomplishment.
Cruising down the eight-lane highway you're on is less of an achievement, and provides no opportunities for growth and discovery.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
3107
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:02:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Nice enough to turn him over?
Sorry, what was that?
I couldn't hear your sarcasm over the sound of an invasion fleet.
Mane 614
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Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens
Viro Mors Non Est
590
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:33:00 -
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Given their unapologetic act of war, I wouldn't expect the Republic to be very magnanimous with respects to this subject. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
507
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:14:00 -
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Why does this sound so familiar to me?...
If this brutor will ever decide to become capsuleer, ask him to write me a message. |
Karmilla Strife
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
104
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:13:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Nice enough to turn him over? Sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear your sarcasm over the sound of an invasion fleet.
There is no sound in space. |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
3109
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:29:00 -
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Karmilla Strife wrote:There is no sound in space.
But apparently there is pedantic literalism.
Mane 614
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Cipher Deninard
Romex Inc.
Dustm3n
23
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:39:00 -
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While I do not condone the use of violence towards Minmatar civilians it must be understood that several actions undertaken by the Republic recently has led to a large amount of distrust between our two races. Is it surprising then that our citizens choose to take action on their own accord? It is possible that such events as this would not occur if the Republic did more to earn our trust rather than lose it. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1313
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:54:00 -
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Frankly I am amazed that the security forces didn't see this coming and move to prevent it. |
Steffanie Saissore
The Order of the Ebon Rose
141
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:01:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Frankly I am amazed that the security forces didn't see this coming and move to prevent it.
My fear is that they did, or may have at least some foreknowledge, and simply either chose not to or were told not to. Of course, that could be reading way too much between the lines.
Ser Steffanie Saissore,
Knight Commander (Errant),
Order of the Ebon Rose
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Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
239
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:06:00 -
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Steffanie Saissore wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Frankly I am amazed that the security forces didn't see this coming and move to prevent it. My fear is that they did, or may have at least some foreknowledge, and simply either chose not to or were told not to. Of course, that could be reading way too much between the lines.
Welcome to the cynical club. We have badges and everything. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1796
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:55:00 -
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So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1314
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Posted - 2013.08.03 01:33:00 -
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Stitcher wrote: So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.
You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence? |
Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
65
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Posted - 2013.08.03 01:49:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Stitcher wrote: So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful. You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?
A somewhat simplistic view of a situation much more complex and multilayered than either of you are giving it credit for.
O. Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1799
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:26:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Stitcher wrote: So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful. You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?
I was SWAT, not a badge. Being on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence wasn't part of my job description.
An in-character blog and a video:
http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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James Syagrius
Stillwater Corporation
489
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:55:00 -
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Regretfully there is only one solution to the Tribal "problem" within the Federation.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
http://syagrius-eve.blogspot.com/
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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
784
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:53:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Now there's a thought. Since we were nice enough to hand Broteau over to Republic justice, they can surely reciprocate by handing over members of a known terrorist organisation.
Funny.
I'll be sure to tip my waiter.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens
Viro Mors Non Est
591
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Posted - 2013.08.03 11:12:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Stitcher wrote: So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful. You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?
Not sure how relevant it is since I was in charge of patrolling space lanes rather than than being on foot dealing with individuals in person, but I did spend my early years in the watch, and I would have certainly been on the lookout for funny business between civilians when tensions between empires was getting high.
All I can say is, never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. |
Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
Ushra'Khan
363
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:59:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Now there's a thought. Since we were nice enough to hand Broteau over to Republic justice, they can surely reciprocate by handing over members of a known terrorist organisation.
And if those suspects have no knowledge of or direct connection to Atlanins? What would the point?
Broteau was apprehend at the scene of the crime with overwhelming evidence of his guilt from the outset. You are calling for the Republic hand over individuals who they may not even have in custody with likely only circumstantial connections to a crime against the Federation.
I fail to see what you expect to be gained other than a show trial for political benefit.
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
3117
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Posted - 2013.08.03 16:09:00 -
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Ugleb wrote:I fail to see what you expect to be gained other than a show trial for political benefit.
Oh, perish the thought! It wouldn't be like other prisoners that have crossed international borders wound up in a show trial for political benefit. You wound me.
Mane 614
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