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Iceminer Prophet
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.27 04:37:00 -
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Embrace user generated content - have fun with gankers is better than running a dungeon.
My fellow miners, I think we should see this as an opportunity. Lets not begrudge those who are participating in this crusade against miners. If you are a miner take a hulk, tank it well get a friend to remote rep you and go mine.
Take into consideration that gankers are bad at math and will still try to attack your lone hulk with only a couple of cruisers, this will result in a hilarious concordoken. One thing that you must always remember is that a good tank does not mean shield boosters. You want buffer and resistances. You want small shield extenders and invulnerability fields.
I know that this works because there are several people doing it and many gankers have died in the process. I think killboard links are not allowed in the forum, but if you google "Test Alliance's killboard" you will see one system in the campaign against ice miners that has a 30% efficiency. The reason for the low efficiency is that there was some resistance in that system. I would mention the Goon killboard, but that is a horribly designed killboard, and they are missing a lot more deaths than Test Alliance is. One of the problems with Concord is that they kill gankers so fast is hard to get in the killmail.
If you do decide to do this remember that anything can be killed in high sec. No matter how much buffer you get, how high your resistances get or how many people you get to rep you. However, there are two other characteristics of a ganker that work on your favor. Gankers are not only bad at math, they are also lazy {if they realize it takes having to put together battlecruisers or heaven forbid a battleship, they will probably leave you alone}. The last factor working for you is that gankers are disorganized. I have had a couple of battleships die while trying to gank me because the second battleship started to shoot 5 seconds after the first and allowed the reps to cycle.
So far 19 gankers have died and my little hulk is still mining ice. My guess is that now that I am posting in the Eve Forums, I have just painted a target on the hulk and will find a fleet of a dozen tempests waiting for me next time I take it out. That would be fun for me. As much as I have been trying to get them to attack me the last two nights that I have been out mining, they are now refusing to engage, which of course makes me sad.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.27 05:12:00 -
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You're learning, unlike those other miners. Congrats my good miner  |

Trusty Jutspezic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 05:39:00 -
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Sup Druidrider heard you were fitting strip miners on your hulk c/d |

Regis Nex
Pilipino Corp ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.10.27 05:44:00 -
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Good job! More miners like this one who knows how to adapt rather than whine. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
533
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Posted - 2011.10.27 06:14:00 -
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Badposting at k.com just wasn't enough for you was it The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.10.27 06:20:00 -
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Regis Nex wrote:Good job! More miners like this one who knows how to adapt rather than whine. And waving that big red flag is sure gonna help his chances of survival. Not sure if he's mad or dashingly brave. 
A good point studiously made is having a Concord killboard so we can all laugh at the fails. Particularly CFC fails.
Best tears = CFC tears.
( I can see CFC leaders screaming at the fail troops..... WAT, SPLUTTER, SEND 1000 BATTLESHIPS!!!!!)
Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.10.27 06:21:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Badposting at k.com just wasn't enough for you was it Oh shoot. You've upset 'em Iceminer....
Must be quite the effective bunny. +1 Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.10.27 07:15:00 -
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You wish you had a 1000 battleships to send? |

The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.10.27 07:48:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:You wish you had a 1000 battleships to send? Yes. It would be quite funny. Not sure I'd use them on ice miners though. A bit wasteful.
I'd probably find targets of relevance and importance. I dunno, G**ns?
Just saying.  Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.10.27 09:03:00 -
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I applaude this show of courage and the will to stand instead of whine.
Personally, I tried to EFT-buffer-fit a Hulk, but I failed to reach an in my eyes significant EHP. But I have no experience with the alpha and DPS shelled out by suicide gankers. How much EHP would you need to sustain a drive-by-gank? |

Gealbhan
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 09:49:00 -
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Iceminer Prophet wrote:Embrace user generated content - have fun with gankers is better than running a dungeon.
No you didn't.... |

People's Republic ofChina
My Other Capital Ship is Your Mom
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Posted - 2011.10.27 10:29:00 -
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 12:06:00 -
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Iceminer Prophet wrote: So far 19 gankers have died and my little hulk is still mining ice. My guess is that now that I am posting in the Eve Forums, I have just painted a target on the hulk and will find a fleet of a dozen tempests waiting for me next time I take it out. That would be fun for me. As much as I have been trying to get them to attack me the last two nights that I have been out mining, they are now refusing to engage, which of course makes me sad.
Very impressive. But, um, what kind of productivity do you have? You had to have ganked it to hell. You're using a Hulk for ice mining when it should be a Mack so your productivity is already poor. How many ice mining lasers are you using now? 2? You can't be mining much ice. And that's really Goon's goal, preventing the mining of ice, isn't it. So either way they win due to the current stat of barges. Then again, maybe that's the whole reason they're doing it so that they can get CCP to beef up barges so that Goon can fortify their bots. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
108
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Posted - 2011.10.27 13:06:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Iceminer Prophet wrote: So far 19 gankers have died and my little hulk is still mining ice. My guess is that now that I am posting in the Eve Forums, I have just painted a target on the hulk and will find a fleet of a dozen tempests waiting for me next time I take it out. That would be fun for me. As much as I have been trying to get them to attack me the last two nights that I have been out mining, they are now refusing to engage, which of course makes me sad.
Very impressive. But, um, what kind of productivity do you have? You had to have ganked it to hell. You're using a Hulk for ice mining when it should be a Mack so your productivity is already poor. How many ice mining lasers are you using now? 2? You can't be mining much ice. And that's really Goon's goal, preventing the mining of ice, isn't it. So either way they win due to the current stat of barges. Then again, maybe that's the whole reason they're doing it so that they can get CCP to beef up barges so that Goon can fortify their bots.
MORE than those who've been ganked New Player "boost" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=243993#post243993 Mining + War Decks = yummy! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25608&find=unread |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.10.27 13:16:00 -
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Gealbhan wrote:Iceminer Prophet wrote:Embrace user generated content - have fun with gankers is better than running a dungeon.
 No you didn't....
True story: When deadspace stuff was released CCP themselves called them dungeons.
So there you go!
at OP: It always feels good to have someone fail while they are trying to kill you in EVE. Good job! - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.10.27 13:25:00 -
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Just a quick question for the op.
I used to run buffer tanked hulks during the geddens. Never had a loss and mined straight through.
I wondered though, would ECM drones help, or do they lock too slow to be effective?
Mr Epeen  If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |

Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:20:00 -
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This escalation might be fun to watch...
If only iceminers would like....cooperate? |

Iceminer Prophet
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.27 23:50:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote: You can't be mining much ice. And that's really Goon's goal, preventing the mining of ice, isn't it. So either way they win due to the current stat of barges. Really, I remember someone saying that " Those who refuse to bend will be broken.". If we are changing the whole thing because of a single miner with 3,000 hp of shield, then I have to question their commitment to the holy jihad!
Mr Kidd wrote: Very impressive. But, um, what kind of productivity do you have?. LOL read my original post, so far I am 19-0 I think that is good enough productivity. I am not going to lie, the ice mining is like icing on the cake :pun intended: right now I am after another type of commodity. 
Aldan Romar wrote:I applaude this show of courage and the will to stand instead of whine.
Personally, I tried to EFT-buffer-fit a Hulk, but I failed to reach an in my eyes significant EHP. But I have no experience with the alpha and DPS shelled out by suicide gankers. How much EHP would you need to sustain a drive-by-gank? The EHP depends on what the ganker brings and how many friends he has. I suspect that gankers are both cheap and lack friends :foreveralone:
Ladie Harlot wrote:Badposting at k.com just wasn't enough for you was it Whatever do you mean.... there is no such website as k.com. I like the new name by the way.
Mr Epeen wrote:
I wondered though, would ECM drones help, or do they lock too slow to be effective?
Never tried it and to be honest gankings are over and done very quickly. Sometimes I wish I had a couple of friends in sensor boosted scorpions with me just in case they actually bring enough numbers. Nothing will stop you from getting the first salvo however. You can't ecm someone in high sec unless they are already red.
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Charlotte The Harlot
La Villa Strangiato
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Posted - 2011.10.28 00:20:00 -
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I love floating over with my damaged Mac to scrape up whats left of gankers tears/ship after they fail at being a douche |

Hershman
G-Weezy
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Posted - 2011.10.28 00:30:00 -
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Love this thread
Eve is a game. Games present challenges.
Have fun with it. |

Iceminer Prophet
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.28 00:40:00 -
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Currently mining in a gallente system near you. Should be out for another hour or two.
I expect to die horribly or not.
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Amro One
One.
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Posted - 2011.10.28 01:57:00 -
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Wait till the winter expansion when T2 ganglink mods come out.
Mine with a vutlure and bam. tankzilla |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
543
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Posted - 2011.10.28 03:24:00 -
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This guy has been taunting us for a few days at kugu. He keeps posting that he's sitting in a belt with dozens of dead gank ships around him but every time he does that and we check the gallente ice belts they are completely empty. He's either confused and sitting in the wrong part of space or he's making it all up. Either one would be hilarious. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
114
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:00:00 -
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or you're fibbing to cover your own fail
Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
544
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:08:00 -
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Denidil wrote:or you're fibbing to cover your own fail Yes the Gallente Ice Interdiction has been such a disaster that we are resorting to making stuff up about it.
Also we're not having any trouble killing Orcas so we wouldn't have any trouble with this guy's Hulk if it was actually there.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:24:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Denidil wrote:or you're fibbing to cover your own fail Yes the Gallente Ice Interdiction has been such a disaster that we are resorting to making stuff up about it. Also we're not having any trouble killing Orcas so we wouldn't have any trouble with this guy's Hulk if it was actually there.
because i'm stupid enough to trust goon's KB stats, let alone KB stats on something for which most fails wouldn't show up because they're concordokken and killboards don't display concordokken. Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
544
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:34:00 -
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Denidil wrote:because i'm stupid enough to trust goon's KB stats, let alone KB stats on something for which most fails wouldn't show up because they're concordokken and killboards don't display concordokken. Well while you're wearing your tinfoil hat (and continuing to evacuate from Delve) we'll still be blowing up miners in Gallente space. If the OP actually wants to mine there he's more then welcome to try. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
114
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Posted - 2011.10.28 05:57:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:(and continuing to evacuate from Delve)
lolwut? Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2011.10.28 10:02:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:
Very impressive. But, um, what kind of productivity do you have? You had to have ganked it to hell. You're using a Hulk for ice mining when it should be a Mack so your productivity is already poor. How many ice mining lasers are you using now? 2? You can't be mining much ice. And that's really Goon's goal, preventing the mining of ice, isn't it. So either way they win due to the current stat of barges. Then again, maybe that's the whole reason they're doing it so that they can get CCP to beef up barges so that Goon can fortify their bots.
MORE than those who've been ganked
Doubtful.
Don't get me wrong here. I think what he's doing is pretty cool. But, he's already stated he's not out there presently to mine ice.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
549
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Posted - 2011.10.28 10:08:00 -
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Denidil wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:(and continuing to evacuate from Delve) lolwut? Hmm...I figured somebody in THE GRADUATES would have a better idea of what is going on in their alliance.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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