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Posted - 2005.12.20 16:55:00 - [31]

Alright, these all seem like good setups. Will train what I need and do what I must and no I'm not going to skimp Smile. Keep the setups coming, this will most likely help a lot of other people as well. ugh
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:26:00 - [32]

Originally by: Thales Archon
For PvE -- and most people will disagree with me -- you need something to deal with hyperfast frigates. Cruise missiles can't hit fast frigates to save themselves, which is why people are crying about losing Ravens in level 3 missions.

I fit five cruise, two assault launchers, and a smartbomb. Takes care of the long range, the medium to short range, and the very short range.

Raven's chief ability is to sit out at 120km or so and snipe everything. You'll need a sensor booster. Other than that, the Raven has huge shields, which can be easily augmented with hardeners / boosters / extenders etc. Raven is not an armor tanker. An afterburner or MWD is crucial to be able to place yourself at sniping range.

Low slots are best used for BCU's and PDU's.

Hope this helps.


wtb Navy Raven.

A nifty tank setup is 1 large tech2, 4 hardners, amp, lows 4 PDU II's, 1 BCU. Highs, fit your launchers, and maybe some close range turrets? If you have hyper fast frigates, why not use your extra grid over for a large smartbomb and a railgun. I always ended up having to use drones to kill friggies post Missle changes. Waste of torps otherwise. Maybe fit some small energy weapons.
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Posted - 2005.12.20 18:26:00 - [33]

Originally by: Thales Archon
For PvE -- and most people will disagree with me -- you need something to deal with hyperfast frigates. Cruise missiles can't hit fast frigates to save themselves, which is why people are crying about losing Ravens in level 3 missions.

I fit five cruise, two assault launchers, and a smartbomb. Takes care of the long range, the medium to short range, and the very short range.

Raven's chief ability is to sit out at 120km or so and snipe everything. You'll need a sensor booster. Other than that, the Raven has huge shields, which can be easily augmented with hardeners / boosters / extenders etc. Raven is not an armor tanker. An afterburner or MWD is crucial to be able to place yourself at sniping range.

Low slots are best used for BCU's and PDU's.

Hope this helps.


wtb Navy Raven.

A nifty tank setup is 1 large tech2, 4 hardners, amp, lows 4 PDU II's, 1 BCU. Highs, fit your launchers, and maybe some close range turrets? If you have hyper fast frigates, why not use your extra grid over for a large smartbomb and a railgun. I always ended up having to use drones to kill friggies post Missle changes. Waste of torps otherwise. Maybe fit some small energy weapons.
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Posted - 2005.12.20 19:10:00 - [34]

4 Hardeners!? lol. The 3% boost from the third to the forth is almost useless. Maybe take one of those off and fit a webber huh? Havent run into any super fast guristas yet except the Dire Arrogators. I was in my Harpy with a webber and the arrog. was going really slow. I just remember that it took a long time for my 9x hammerheads (before patch) to catch up to the faster frigs.
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Posted - 2005.12.20 19:10:00 - [35]

4 Hardeners!? lol. The 3% boost from the third to the forth is almost useless. Maybe take one of those off and fit a webber huh? Havent run into any super fast guristas yet except the Dire Arrogators. I was in my Harpy with a webber and the arrog. was going really slow. I just remember that it took a long time for my 9x hammerheads (before patch) to catch up to the faster frigs.
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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:10:00 - [36]

Edited by: Embattle on 20/12/2005 20:12:48
Personally I've owned a Raven, Navy Raven and recently a Rattlesnake but the basic Raven isn't that much worse than the other two providing you set it up right.

I tried Cruise but found they took to long to break some of the bigger BS npcs, esp if there was more than one. I would just leave my drones to deal with frigs and as you're a Mega user I would imagine your skills in drones are fairly good.

I've used these in my setup but generally in all 3 ships they've remained the same with a few changes depending on which one I was flying:

6-7 Arbalest/DG Siege
1x DG Shield Boost
1x DG Shield Amp
3-4 Pith/DG Hardeners
3-4 PDU T2s
2-3 DG/BCU T2s

The reason for the named stuff is sometimes the extra performance but it also helps with fitting...however even with standard stuff you can generally make a very nice Raven providing you have the skills, I should also point out it might be worth getting the new Shield Compensation skills.

ALthough I did recently sell the RS as torp spamming without risk was getting slightly boring....well without risk from npcs but maybe a CCP crash risk Very Happy
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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:10:00 - [37]

Edited by: Embattle on 20/12/2005 20:12:48
Personally I've owned a Raven, Navy Raven and recently a Rattlesnake but the basic Raven isn't that much worse than the other two providing you set it up right.

I tried Cruise but found they took to long to break some of the bigger BS npcs, esp if there was more than one. I would just leave my drones to deal with frigs and as you're a Mega user I would imagine your skills in drones are fairly good.

I've used these in my setup but generally in all 3 ships they've remained the same with a few changes depending on which one I was flying:

6-7 Arbalest/DG Siege
1x DG Shield Boost
1x DG Shield Amp
3-4 Pith/DG Hardeners
3-4 PDU T2s
2-3 DG/BCU T2s

The reason for the named stuff is sometimes the extra performance but it also helps with fitting...however even with standard stuff you can generally make a very nice Raven providing you have the skills, I should also point out it might be worth getting the new Shield Compensation skills.

ALthough I did recently sell the RS as torp spamming without risk was getting slightly boring....well without risk from npcs but maybe a CCP crash risk Very Happy
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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:15:00 - [38]

Originally by: Podruski
4 Hardeners!? lol. The 3% boost from the third to the forth is almost useless. Maybe take one of those off and fit a webber huh? Havent run into any super fast guristas yet except the Dire Arrogators. I was in my Harpy with a webber and the arrog. was going really slow. I just remember that it took a long time for my 9x hammerheads (before patch) to catch up to the faster frigs.


As far as I know, hardners stack only in innefectiveness if you go 4 or more of the same type. IE, if your Hunting Serpentis Rats, or whatever, you would run 2 kinetic, 2 thermal hardners. (usually it's not a good idea to shield tank anything that does EM damage unless you have a good base shield EM resist, which hardly any t1 ships have, save for Ferox, Merlin, Moa).
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Posted - 2005.12.20 20:15:00 - [39]

Originally by: Podruski
4 Hardeners!? lol. The 3% boost from the third to the forth is almost useless. Maybe take one of those off and fit a webber huh? Havent run into any super fast guristas yet except the Dire Arrogators. I was in my Harpy with a webber and the arrog. was going really slow. I just remember that it took a long time for my 9x hammerheads (before patch) to catch up to the faster frigs.


As far as I know, hardners stack only in innefectiveness if you go 4 or more of the same type. IE, if your Hunting Serpentis Rats, or whatever, you would run 2 kinetic, 2 thermal hardners. (usually it's not a good idea to shield tank anything that does EM damage unless you have a good base shield EM resist, which hardly any t1 ships have, save for Ferox, Merlin, Moa).
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Posted - 2005.12.21 07:29:00 - [40]

Originally by: Embattle
Edited by: Embattle on 20/12/2005 20:12:48
Personally I've owned a Raven, Navy Raven and recently a Rattlesnake but the basic Raven isn't that much worse than the other two providing you set it up right.

I tried Cruise but found they took to long to break some of the bigger BS npcs, esp if there was more than one. I would just leave my drones to deal with frigs and as you're a Mega user I would imagine your skills in drones are fairly good.

I've used these in my setup but generally in all 3 ships they've remained the same with a few changes depending on which one I was flying:

6-7 Arbalest/DG Siege
1x DG Shield Boost
1x DG Shield Amp
3-4 Pith/DG Hardeners
3-4 PDU T2s
2-3 DG/BCU T2s

The reason for the named stuff is sometimes the extra performance but it also helps with fitting...however even with standard stuff you can generally make a very nice Raven providing you have the skills, I should also point out it might be worth getting the new Shield Compensation skills.

ALthough I did recently sell the RS as torp spamming without risk was getting slightly boring....well without risk from npcs but maybe a CCP crash risk Very Happy


Hmm this setup seems appealing, and I can switch to Cruise if need be as well, and Torps also. Will keep it in mind along with the rest, much thanks Smile
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Posted - 2005.12.21 07:29:00 - [41]

Originally by: Embattle
Edited by: Embattle on 20/12/2005 20:12:48
Personally I've owned a Raven, Navy Raven and recently a Rattlesnake but the basic Raven isn't that much worse than the other two providing you set it up right.

I tried Cruise but found they took to long to break some of the bigger BS npcs, esp if there was more than one. I would just leave my drones to deal with frigs and as you're a Mega user I would imagine your skills in drones are fairly good.

I've used these in my setup but generally in all 3 ships they've remained the same with a few changes depending on which one I was flying:

6-7 Arbalest/DG Siege
1x DG Shield Boost
1x DG Shield Amp
3-4 Pith/DG Hardeners
3-4 PDU T2s
2-3 DG/BCU T2s

The reason for the named stuff is sometimes the extra performance but it also helps with fitting...however even with standard stuff you can generally make a very nice Raven providing you have the skills, I should also point out it might be worth getting the new Shield Compensation skills.

ALthough I did recently sell the RS as torp spamming without risk was getting slightly boring....well without risk from npcs but maybe a CCP crash risk Very Happy


Hmm this setup seems appealing, and I can switch to Cruise if need be as well, and Torps also. Will keep it in mind along with the rest, much thanks Smile
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:38:00 - [42]

Originally by: Axristos
raven is good and remains good after RMR for pve .
It is not good at all if your missles skills are low I recommend lvl3 minimum to all although lvl4 is the base for soloing lvl4 missions
Drones will be your friends for frigates and after patch medium will do the work well.Still skills are needed.
I personally fit :
6 siege Limos or zw (are cheap now)
1 medium or heavy nos or 1 large smartbomb if i am facing drones
(Smartbomb is useless if you facing frigs they rarely come closer to 5000 where is the smartbomb range)
ab 100 mn T2
large shield extender T2
xl shield booster
sensor booster
boost amplifiers and a hardener or what else

3pdu T2
2 ballistics ( or change with 1-2 warp stabs if mission requires that




Question, is one Stab enough for lvl 4's? The Warp scramblers are my Main problem...
   
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