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Cecil Tanner
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:21:00 -
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So i'm in a null sec corp and at CTA's they set tax to 100% and I can understand why but whats really annoying is that when they forget to change it back from 100% they basically make the game useless to play eve since most income comes from the rats from belts bountys and same for hubs and such. This has happened a few times and been 100% anywhere from 12 to 24 hours after the CTA is over cause noone online can change tax rate.
There really should timer system in game so when CTA's are over the tax automatically drops back to the normal amount, maybe tied into the calendar or something. |
Julius Priscus
122
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:22:00 -
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Cecil Tanner wrote:So i'm in a null sec corp and at CTA's they set tax to 100% and I can understand why but whats really annoying is that when they forget to change it back from 100% they basically make the game useless to play eve since most income comes from the rats from belts bountys and same for hubs and such. This has happened a few times and been 100% anywhere from 12 to 24 hours after the CTA is over cause noone online can change tax rate.
There really should timer system in game so when CTA's are over the tax automatically drops back to the normal amount, maybe tied into the calendar or something.
get used to it...
-»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Dain Highwind
La Isla del Mono
36
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:23:00 -
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Tell to your ******* CEO, we dont care. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
11068
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:24:00 -
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Cecil Tanner wrote:So i'm in a null sec corp and at CTA's they set tax to 100% and I can understand why but whats really annoying is that when they forget to change it back from 100% they basically make the game useless to play eve since most income comes from the rats from belts bountys and same for hubs and such. This has happened a few times and been 100% anywhere from 12 to 24 hours after the CTA is over cause noone online can change tax rate.
There really should timer system in game so when CTA's are over the tax automatically drops back to the normal amount, maybe tied into the calendar or something.
Why are you complaining to us about the way your CEO runs his corp?
1 Kings 12:11
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1496
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:36:00 -
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Awox is the only solution. Even better if you can cyno an enemy fleet on top of an alliance titan.
Oh god. |
Dave Stark
3268
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:39:00 -
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you mean, you don't have an incursion capable pilot sitting in high sec to make isk like all the other null sec people? |
Julius Priscus
122
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:45:00 -
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there is one other option...
tell the entire alliance you have a neutral jf alt and willing to move **** back n forth ..
keep accepting contracts till they realise you aint gonna do em... ransom them back if in null/low sec. keep everything else in high sec.
then once you are soon to be booted alliance mail everyone saying why you ripped em off.
oh yes if you like this send me 10% of the profits.
-»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Gaius BaItar
0
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:45:00 -
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Try running exploration sites, the items you find are not taxable... |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3428
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:52:00 -
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And you are telling us ... why ? |
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
58
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:58:00 -
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100% corporation tax means your corp CEO has turned into communism. Run while you can. Soon he will try to convert you too.
Mikhem
Game improvement ideas. |
GreenSeed
614
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:10:00 -
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why do you need a rule set/timer on something that has nothing to do with the CTA?
imagine if we asked CCP to add some kind of reward system for showing up to CTAs, tracking attendance and penalizing slackers by only allowing to get reimbursed for T1 crap loses, nothing bigger than a frigate... you think that would be a good idea? it would be terrible, the whole point of the sandbox is to give the tools to allow players to do what they want, not to force them into one gameplay. eve is not wow, content is not generated by the devs, its generated by players like your CEO.
you can try talking, but if your CEO is a despot, then you can revolt. or simply leave and take the dissidents with you. you can leave in good terns, or you can steal everything that's not bolted to the ground. that's how free you are.
the game gives you those freedoms the same way it gives the freedom to your CEO to run his corp the way he wants. there's no rule in game about allowing or disallowing coercing players to show up to the F1 fests. there's no rule about CTAs, at all!
CTAs are not part of the game, CTAs are the gameplay your CEO is offering you. you can find other corps with no CTAs, but then again, im willing to bet they don't do CTAs because they don't have anything worth defending. 
you can discuss with your CEO different forms of incentivizing attendance if you don't like the tax thing. doing hobo CTAs on Talwars can add some fun in between the alliance CTAs. (im assuming you are renters) that way you can get people to stop thinking of fleeting up as a chore.
or asking around who needs help with a timer just to get kills and troll local, at any given time there's at least one WH corp that needs help with a timer, or would be timer. or you can let more people call for CTAs... im sure there's someone on the corp who has a grudge against some other dude and always wanted to get payback with an army.
or just do like the goons used to do, label the CTA something boring like "POCO Bash in lolsec" so the slackers will dodge it, then once everyone is fleeted up, go and kill everyone who didn't show up to the CTA. that usually does the trick.  |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
544
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:36:00 -
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Cecil Tanner wrote:when they forget to change it back from 100% they basically make the game useless to play eve since most income comes from the rats from belts bountys and same for hubs and such.
If the only reason you're in 0.0 is to farm isk or rat then you're going to end up in corps that aren't forgetting to change it back, they're just farming as much isk as possible from people who really shouldn't be in 0.0 anyway.
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Julius Priscus
122
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:41:00 -
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S'Way wrote:Cecil Tanner wrote:when they forget to change it back from 100% they basically make the game useless to play eve since most income comes from the rats from belts bountys and same for hubs and such. If the only reason you're in 0.0 is to farm isk or rat then you're going to end up in corps that aren't forgetting to change it back, they're just farming as much isk as possible from people who really shouldn't be in 0.0 anyway.
that's a good point. if you love your corp as you should the extra isk should do show it.
-»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
786
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:43:00 -
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Mikhem wrote:100% corporation tax means your corp CEO has turned into communism. Run while you can. Soon he will try to convert you too.
You should probably read the articles you are linking before you imply wrong things.
"Also, your boobs  " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1496
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:43:00 -
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S'Way wrote:If the only reason you're in 0.0 is to farm isk or rat then you're going to end up in corps that aren't forgetting to change it back, they're just farming as much isk as possible from people who really shouldn't be in 0.0 anyway.
Exactly. Most people are in 0.0 because they are passionate about structure grinding, not because they want to run boring anomalies.
Oh god. |
Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:45:00 -
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awoxing guarantees citzenship |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels
R O G U E
1264
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Posted - 2013.08.04 10:12:00 -
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Cecil Tanner wrote:So i'm in a null sec corp and at CTA's they set tax to 100% and I can understand why but whats really annoying is that when they forget to change it back from 100% they basically make the game useless to play eve since most income comes from the rats from belts bountys and same for hubs and such. This has happened a few times and been 100% anywhere from 12 to 24 hours after the CTA is over cause noone online can change tax rate.
There really should timer system in game so when CTA's are over the tax automatically drops back to the normal amount, maybe tied into the calendar or something.
Learn how to play the markets or go mining , corp taxes can't hit you there
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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baltec1
Bat Country
7488
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Posted - 2013.08.04 10:18:00 -
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Mikhem wrote:100% corporation tax means your corp CEO has turned into communism. Run while you can. Soon he will try to convert you too.
Communism is the best ism. I love my taxpayer funded ships and activities. |
Chic Botany
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:12:00 -
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Basically put, if you don't like the corp then leave.
There are other ways of making isk in game than ratting, PI, Mining, Exploration.
Voice your concerns to your corp don't whine on the forums, if it was an oversight then sh!t happens, somebody forgot to set the tax rate back, if it was an ebil plan to get more money on into the corp coffers for the ceo to steal then deal with it and leave.
100% tax is fine, I've got a couple of alts in their own corp and the tax is 100% so the majority of the isk that comes from any missions they run go to a central wallet instead of being split around various chars.
Nothing wrong with the mechanic, just the execution imo. |
Templar Knightsbane
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:14:00 -
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Just turn up to the ******* CTA the 1st time... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15896
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Posted - 2013.08.04 12:42:00 -
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OP: As others have mentioned, you have a corp problem, not a game problem. The game doesn't know when your CTA is over (or even that you have a CTA) so there's no way for it to change the tax rate. Your CEO, on the other hand, do, so ask him to institute the timer you're looking for.
baltec1 wrote:Mikhem wrote:100% corporation tax means your corp CEO has turned into communism. Run while you can. Soon he will try to convert you too. Communism is the best ism. I love my taxpayer funded ships and activities.
GǪand by GǣtaxpayerGǥ, you mean highsec NPC-corp carebears.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2063
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Posted - 2013.08.04 13:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:OP: As others have mentioned, you have a corp problem, not a game problem. The game doesn't know when your CTA is over (or even that you have a CTA) so there's no way for it to change the tax rate. Your CEO, on the other hand, do, so ask him to institute the timer you're looking for. baltec1 wrote:Mikhem wrote:100% corporation tax means your corp CEO has turned into communism. Run while you can. Soon he will try to convert you too. Communism is the best ism. I love my taxpayer funded ships and activities. GǪand by GǣtaxpayerGǥ, you mean highsec NPC-corp carebears.
In his case he means free ships paid for by GW's corp tax, POCOs, etc.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
King Aires
Coffee Sipper's Club
Biggby Coffee Fan Club
31
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Posted - 2013.08.04 13:04:00 -
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I think the bigger problem is realizing you show up to CTA's to protect the isk making ability of those who don't care whether you make a dime or not.
The problem with 0.0 alliances and corps is the concentration of wealth generation is at the top and it is those scratching by that are least likely to benefit. So unless you love the blob fight, there is really no reason for you to CTA or be in an alliance like that.
Just move your character into a ratting ship in Venal or Curse or Delve, make your own isk and call it a day. Stop feeding the bureaucracy.  |
MacKael
Segmentum Solar
Nulli Secunda
232
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Posted - 2013.08.04 13:25:00 -
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They didn't forget to change it. And FYI I'd find a new corp. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1044
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Posted - 2013.08.04 13:33:00 -
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Corp tax 100% best way to get rid of pesky members. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.08.04 14:18:00 -
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Why are morons always coming here to ask CCP to to work on stupid things? Tell your CEO to shape up and find another corp...
Pak Narhoo wrote:Corp tax 100% best way to get rid of pesky members.
Yeah I did that on my one man corp and all my alts quit...little creeps... |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
423
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Posted - 2013.08.04 14:23:00 -
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Cecil Tanner wrote:Eve Corporations....
There should be alternatives to taxing, like a monthly sub (enforceable via UI). Then people could decide how to earn it themselves. Otherwise, your CEO is a massive ****. Of course he didn't change it. CEO's get rich by taxing your arse. If you could see the accounts, you'd see how much he was creaming off into his own personal account.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2063
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Posted - 2013.08.04 14:58:00 -
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You're all missing the point. Any corp/alliance that enforces 100% tax in that way are awful, and the solution is to never join them / leave ASAP stealing everything you can.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Abyss Azizora
Sarum Prime Syndicate Group
Paper Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.08.04 15:00:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:you mean, you don't have an incursion capable pilot sitting in high sec to make isk like all the other null sec people?
^
This is in fact how it's done by almost everyone now.
PS: The reason many null alliances set tax to 100% is to keep out people who just join for null pve. Not sure if that's your CEO's intention, but why not just ask him? |
Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
862
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Posted - 2013.08.04 16:54:00 -
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Time to awox. |
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