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Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:47:00 - [1] Edited by: Gronsak on 20/12/2005 21:47:46 can anyone beat a raven BS in any other BS? assume a 2vs2, one side has a raven and a cepter that can only tackle. thus no warping out (this is realistic as in fights u have a gang and tacklers tackle and BS do other things) the other side also has a dedicated tackler. now ur job is to design a BS that can beat the raven. no ECM are permitted, assume maxed out gang skills too. raven setup 6 siege t2 : 2 medium neuts 2 invols t2 : 3 t2 extenders, : 1 small t2 shield booster 4BCU t2, 1 DCU best named 5 medium TP drones, and some t2 light drones too nearly 17,000 Shields, which good resistance across the bord. anyone comes up with a winner, ill give u 10mils isk. competing BS must not use faction or officer mods, since this raven isnt useing any, assume maxed skills for both pilots.
Shirei	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:48:00 - [2] Anything with 1 or more caldari jammer.
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:50:00 - [3] Edited by: Gronsak on 20/12/2005 21:50:35 Originally by: Shirei Anything with 1 or more caldari jammer. no ECM are permitted, besides the raven has a very high grav strength, 1 of them is unlikely to jam it. even if we said jamming is permitted, we could swarp out the DCU and 1 BCU t1 for 2 backup arrays giving about 40strength?? thus very unlikely to jam it the loss of the dcu and the 4th dmg mod doesnt effect its dps or tank by a grewat deal at all
Jim Hsu	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:50:00 - [4] Edited by: Jim Hsu on 20/12/2005 21:53:08 Apoc with 8 cycling smartbombs? Charge!!! :) (oh yea, if the inty pilot's stupid, he'll get popped too. :) -- If you're a math wizard, help me here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=255750&page=1 :)
KilROCK	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Shirei Anything with 1 or more caldari jammer. Any other idiot with no ability to read the post at all. It says NO ECM.
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:51:00 - [6] Edited by: HippoKing on 20/12/2005 21:51:27 nosfernix might do it edit: the point being to run your tank forever and to turn off his hardeners Where is my I-win button, CCP?
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:52:00 - [7] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 20/12/2005 21:53:15 Greetings sir. I am not a dev, however I am Icelandic so on behalf of Iceland I would like to challenge you to a duel like you described. I assure you I will utterly crush your puny raven with any other tier 2 battleship. I'd prefer a higher wager than 10 million however. http://eve.klaki.net/
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Jim Hsu Apoc with 8 cycling smartbombs? Charge!!! :) quite possible, infact yes it probably would, if u got to within 5km and kept the raven there. but what else could u use this for? would anyone even consider useing a 8 smartbomb ship in pvp i mean anything that orbits u at >7km is gona kill you. it is possible, but very very unrealistic to use in pvp!!!!
Shirei	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:53:00 - [9] Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2005 21:53:29 Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 20/12/2005 21:50:35 Originally by: Shirei Anything with 1 or more caldari jammer. no ECM are permitted, besides the raven has a very high grav strength, 1 of them is unlikely to jam it. even if we said jamming is permitted, we could swarp out the DCU and 1 BCU t1 for 2 backup arrays giving about 40strength?? thus very unlikely to jam it the loss of the dcu and the 4th dmg mod doesnt effect its dps or tank by a grewat deal at all There are no such rules in EVE PvP. And since your Raven set-up doesn't have any sustainable tank, this would probably beat it: Armageddon 7 Megapulse II 3x anything 2-3 Heat Sink II, 5-6 1600mm Rolled Tungsten or t2 (maybe 1-2 of them replaced with hardeners).
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:55:00 - [10] Originally by: HippoKing Edited by: HippoKing on 20/12/2005 21:51:27 nosfernix might do it edit: the point being to run your tank forever and to turn off his hardeners a nos ship wount effect that setup much at all u would have to nos away 5k cap before his invol fields turn off. how long would that take? and then he still has 17k shiedls and 5k armor 5k structure to kill u with before u kill him

Jim Hsu	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:56:00 - [11] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Jim Hsu Apoc with 8 cycling smartbombs? Charge!!! :) quite possible, infact yes it probably would, if u got to within 5km and kept the raven there. but what else could u use this for? would anyone even consider useing a 8 smartbomb ship in pvp i mean anything that orbits u at >7km is gona kill you. it is possible, but very very unrealistic to use in pvp!!!! Camp the gate at the end so his freinds that try to rescue him get popped... \o/ -- If you're a math wizard, help me here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=255750&page=1 :)
R31D	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:56:00 - [12] Assuming your tackler only scrambles, nothing else (that's why you said tackler, so you could skip a scrambler) a Blasterthron should beat that setup Free bumpage for all
Temi	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:56:00 - [13] im pretty sure i could beat any ship, with any ship, if i was allowed to add up stupid rules about modules not legal to use :O Spelling errors ahoy..
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:57:00 - [14] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 20/12/2005 21:53:15 Greetings sir. I am not a dev, however I am Icelandic so on behalf of Iceland I would like to challenge you to a duel like you described. I assure you I will utterly crush your puny raven with any other tier 2 battleship. I'd prefer a higher wager than 10 million however. i dont fly ravens, but if u can tell me ur ship and setup, i can tell u if it has a chace or not vs this raven
KilROCK	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:57:00 - [15] The simple fact he agreed to the challenge is because he knows he can beat it. No need to know the setup.
space fox	Posted - 2005.12.20 21:57:00 - [16] Edited by: space fox on 20/12/2005 22:00:24 NOSdom? with 3 lar going i bet he would have troubble killing you, mix and match sentry drones and nut drones to kill him? send the isk to me please
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2005 21:53:29 Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 20/12/2005 21:50:35 Originally by: Shirei Anything with 1 or more caldari jammer. no ECM are permitted, besides the raven has a very high grav strength, 1 of them is unlikely to jam it. even if we said jamming is permitted, we could swarp out the DCU and 1 BCU t1 for 2 backup arrays giving about 40strength?? thus very unlikely to jam it the loss of the dcu and the 4th dmg mod doesnt effect its dps or tank by a grewat deal at all There are no such rules in EVE PvP. And since your Raven set-up doesn't have any sustainable tank, this would probably beat it: Armageddon 7 Megapulse II 3x anything 2-3 Heat Sink II, 5-6 1600mm Rolled Tungsten or t2 (maybe 1-2 of them replaced with hardeners). wouldnt come close mate, he would use explosive dmg, and ur gona have what, 25k armor? with 4800DMG per volley and a less than 8sec rof, ur gona last only last 50sec in ur armor, say 16sec in ur shields, and 8sec in ur structure. total of 85sec in which time u need to get trhough 17k of 55% EM, and 64% therm resistance. then armor then structure. ie, u would be pawned
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:03:00 - [18] Originally by: R31D Assuming your tackler only scrambles, nothing else (that's why you said tackler, so you could skip a scrambler) a Blasterthron should beat that setup doesnt even come close mate. im a blasterthron pilot and i for sure know that blasterthron doesnt beat that raven setup
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:05:00 - [19] Originally by: space fox Edited by: space fox on 20/12/2005 22:00:24 NOSdom? with 3 lar going i bet he would have troubble killing you, mix and match sentry drones and nut drones to kill him? send the isk to me please nos doesnt effect the setup, take a look at it (the shield booster is there mainly for after fight recovery) ur drone useing ogre 2s do 400DPS. his torps do 750DPS i dont think u win
space fox	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:07:00 - [20] Edited by: space fox on 20/12/2005 22:07:59 check the dps on those sentry drones there quite amasing, and the nos are there to try and drop his hardners so the emp ones can kill him all the quicker ofcourse any half decent tackler could kill them, but that seems to be a moot point

Shirei	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:08:00 - [21] Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2005 22:08:43 Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2005 21:53:29 Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 20/12/2005 21:50:35 Originally by: Shirei Anything with 1 or more caldari jammer. no ECM are permitted, besides the raven has a very high grav strength, 1 of them is unlikely to jam it. even if we said jamming is permitted, we could swarp out the DCU and 1 BCU t1 for 2 backup arrays giving about 40strength?? thus very unlikely to jam it the loss of the dcu and the 4th dmg mod doesnt effect its dps or tank by a grewat deal at all There are no such rules in EVE PvP. And since your Raven set-up doesn't have any sustainable tank, this would probably beat it: Armageddon 7 Megapulse II 3x anything 2-3 Heat Sink II, 5-6 1600mm Rolled Tungsten or t2 (maybe 1-2 of them replaced with hardeners). wouldnt come close mate, he would use explosive dmg, and ur gona have what, 25k armor? with 4800DMG per volley and a less than 8sec rof, ur gona last only last 50sec in ur armor, say 16sec in ur shields, and 8sec in ur structure. total of 85sec in which time u need to get trhough 17k of 55% EM, and 64% therm resistance. then armor then structure. ie, u would be pawned I did mention possibly replacing 1-2 of the 1600 plates by hardener to avoid the worst resistances, thereby doubling your time to get through the armor to 100 secs. You are also severely underestimating the kind of damage a Megapulse Geddon can do (about 700-800 dps before resistances). That geddon is also not a set-up I'd really fly for PvP, it is just a random set-up thrown together showing that a Geddon can do what your Raven set-up is trying to do (a lot of HP, no re-gen and good damage), but do it better, since 1600 plates give 50% more HP than large shield extenders.
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:09:00 - [22] Originally by: space fox check the dps on those sentry drones there quite amasing, and the nos are there to try and drop his hardners so the emp ones can kill him all the quicker t2 ogres do more damage then sentrys t2 ogres do about 400DPS maxed skills, before any drone mods (which are not in game yet) he has 5k cap u need to get rid of before his cap is gone, he will kill u before u kill him for sure
space fox	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:10:00 - [23] ok here is the awnser then - exactly the smae as the other raven but with gisti mods
Crackfarmer	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:12:00 - [24] I think the important point is since when was Eve a 1v1 bs game?
Temi	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:12:00 - [25] whats a DCU btw? o_O and im pretty sure my domi would beat that ship o_O and im actually fitting disruptors/web's etc you know stuff that prevents your enemy from running away so you actually can win, not just "not lose" :S Spelling errors ahoy..
Paradox Eve	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:13:00 - [26] Edited by: Paradox Eve on 20/12/2005 22:15:47 A celestis with 4 sensor dampners, orbiting at 30km. Would take a while, but you would be dead eventually without even scratching the celest.
Paradox Eve	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:15:00 - [27] Oh, Im sorry- you said BS. In that case, a Domi with 4 dampners, and one AB/MWD staying at 30ish km.
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:18:00 - [28] Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2005 22:08:43 I did mention possibly replacing 1-2 of the 1600 plates by hardener to avoid the worst resistances, thereby doubling your time to get through the armor to 100 secs. You are also severely underestimating the kind of damage a Megapulse Geddon can do (about 700-800 dps before resistances). That geddon is also not a set-up I'd really fly for PvP, it is just a random set-up thrown together showing that a Geddon can do what your Raven set-up is trying to do (a lot of HP, no re-gen and good damage), but do it better, since 1600 plates give 50% more HP than large shield extenders. assume u use 3 energized adaptives (+50% to all) and then 3 plates and tehn 2 dmg mods u have 50% on explosive at ur weakest point. then ur armor + 8200 from teh plates (but u have no way to rep urself, but lets ignor that) so u have 16.3k armor with 50% at weakest point. raven has 17k with 55% at weakest point. raven can do 700DPS gedden might be able to do that much now gedden can only do that at 15km range, so if u start at 20km, raven has the advantage, furtehr and ur toast. i dont think u would beat it, and also i think u should add at lest a small rep, or compair it to a raven setup with the small booster replaced by anotehr extende
Gronsak	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:20:00 - [29] Originally by: Paradox Eve Oh, Im sorry- you said BS. In that case, a Domi with 4 dampners, and one AB/MWD staying at 30ish km. i also said NO EW, but if u want to play that card, swarp the ravens small booster for a sensor booster, then ur damps are ineffective (with damp nerf, 1 sensor booster means that 4 damps take u down to like 40km or higher but dont quote me on that as it was on a thred i read)
KilROCK	Posted - 2005.12.20 22:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: space fox Edited by: space fox on 20/12/2005 22:00:24 NOSdom? with 3 lar going i bet he would have troubble killing you, mix and match sentry drones and nut drones to kill him? send the isk to me please nos doesnt effect the setup, take a look at it (the shield booster is there mainly for after fight recovery) ur drone useing ogre 2s do 400DPS. his torps do 750DPS i dont think u win 475DPS to be exact.



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