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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1409
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:01:00 -
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Turgine wrote:Looking at the price jump it doesn't seem like a "slowly diminishing supply". It looks more like someone bought a huge chunk of isotopes in one go. If the supply isn't cut entirely, the price should rise slowly and definitely not ~25% in one day.
Price doesn't show that at all, you have to check volume to see whether anything was abnormal. I'm not at home right now, so I can't.
That said, it's entirely possible for something to deplete and spike in price the way nitropes did without excess volume being purchased. Sellers cluster around a price point and war within that price point, demand exceeding new supply eventually eliminates the supply at that price point, and then you get a big jump in price. Whether the spike is sustained or not depends on how quickly buys fill in, and in this case they filled in very quickly. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:50:00 -
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That didn't take long. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:50:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:mynnna wrote:That didn't take long. Sounds a bit dumb, why interdict in the month with the least miners online? It's a fundamental thing, you wouldn't understand.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Don't tell me that goons started looking at price action and want to amplify it.
*Shows Mittani.com price action article badge*
The fact that one tmdc writer opted to run a piece on price action means that, well, one tmdc writer opted to run a piece on price action. I know it's hard to wrap your head around the idea of writers on the site having free will and stuff, but it is true. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:02:00 -
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If you weren't accepted as a writer, the most likely reason is that your quality of writing was not judged as up to par.
e: Beaten by Weaselior, but he said it better. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1416
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:58:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:gotcha anyone who has been quoted in a newspaper for any reason is a good enough writer to write articles for that newspaper It's somewhat different interviewing / quoting someone vs copy pasting their writing without permission (nor informing them at all). But hey, you guys make the rules in EvE so you have to be right.
Maybe so but the fact that he plagerized (and perhaps cleaned up) content from your website, even if it is true, still doesn't mean your submissions were up to snuff.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Do you bet that you talk worse in my mother language than I do in English? I don't even speak Italian, so I'd hope an Italian news website would reject anything I wrote.
Quote:P.S. Look at the goons gangbang against whoever is not fully aligned with them: that's what I was meaning earlier when I told Mynna that "freedom of speech" is not their forte.
"Freedom of speech" is just about the least relevant argument you can make for why you should be allowed to write for an internet spaceship game news website. It has literally zero relevance, in fact.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:You should apologize for the possible intellectual property theft (but notice: I am fine with my stuff being published, just not with *these forum posters* (not Mittani.com's) when confronted with reality) but no, arrogance and strongarming is your way even for RL matters. If you want an apology you should probably substantiate your claims to someone who might give some tiny shred of care (hint: that's no one in this thread). Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1417
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:41:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Do you bet that you talk worse in my mother language than I do in English?
given your best defense against the charge of your writing being crap in english is "well your italian probably is bad too" perhaps your first assumption when you were rejected from a slot writing for an english language website shouldn't be goonie conspiracies I have not sent them a single line of my writings, I only asked if I could write an article. Did they use telepathy to judge?
Uhhhhhhhh. See, when we're looking for new writers, the standard MO is "send us a sample so we can evaluate it." And if people want to send in a guess submission, the standard MO is to just do it, rather than asking if you can. So I think the problem is that you probably asked if you could write an article, got ignored, and took it as a no. Am I right?
So back to the original topic, I heard isotopes got as high as 965, and we haven't even started blowing ships up. Anyone want to guess at how long it'll take the others to have a sympathetic rise? Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1418
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:21:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
And he's trying to prove that I did not even read the "send text with 800 chars" message as proof of reading incomprehension, when his citation comes from an article born 1 year+ after I wanted to post.
I know I have great powers, but I could not have read a July 2013 article 1 year ago, could I?
"Send a sample" has been standard practice since the site existed. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1418
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:09:00 -
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But he claimed to have never sent anything in!! How could he not be enticing?!?! Clearly it is a goonie conspiracy to frame him!
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1420
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Posted - 2013.08.06 22:18:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Can we all just shut up and buy my isotopes?
That is all.
End of message.
This is a message I can get behind.
Some of mine are up around 1444, so get to it, you've got a ways to go. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1437
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Posted - 2013.08.07 17:41:00 -
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Caleb Ayrania wrote: When will the wild speculations begin?
I'd say "now"
Caleb Ayrania wrote:Will the interdiction only hit Caldari Ice? Not tellin'
Caleb Ayrania wrote:Will there be a target switch at some point? See above.
Caleb Ayrania wrote:Will the interdiction speed up the actual effect hit from Odyssey changes Undoubtedly.
Caleb Ayrania wrote:and how big will the actual impact be, when stock is fully depleted? The original interdiction saw oxygen isotopes get as high as 1400, something like a 400% increase in price, once stockpiles had been depleted. Draw from that what conclusions you will.
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1437
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:06:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:you might not be tellin', mynnna, but your dear leader has it plastered all over the front page of his website.
I didn't say I wasn't telling whether we were hitting Caldari Ice, I just said I wasn't telling whether we were only hitting Caldari ice. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1441
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:43:00 -
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Grace Ishukone wrote:I only have one question to you Goons.
Why do you kill independent real players in the Caldari ice belts. but leave the botting fleets with the freighters behind them alone?
Seriously, I just don't get it. If you want to destroy EVE as a game, you only need to keep on targeting normal players for long enough. There is the saying don't fly what you can't afford to lose, but let's get real here - most veterans many years ago stopped having any real risk at all in pvp, because the ship cost nothing, the implants cost nothing, and if you lose everything so what, plenty more in the hangar. The same does not go for new players, particularly miners in their first barge or their first ever exhumer. When you gank those people, you risk them quitting the game - I know it, I've seen it, and I miss my friends who walked out of EVE never to return. You may well say "good riddance plenty more" ... but that's the problem, there simply are not that many people interested in an old game where there are precious few powerblocks, where you can't fly the big ships for years, and newbie ships mean nothing in sov warfare. A thousand rifters really can't hurt a nyx.
So by all means go have fun, mess with ice prices. But come on ... use your brains. If someone is obviously new or a highsec carebear ... give them a pass. Gank the bots fleets ... unless, of course you approve of bots. I don't. But then again, if enough real players who like mining quit, we'll need bots or all the capitals in the game will be grounded.
Botters fly mackinaws and barely interact with the game.
"Real players" fly mackinaws and barely interact with the game.
We don't really have any way to tell ya'll apart. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1484
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Posted - 2013.08.11 16:49:00 -
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Grozen wrote:I'd say few people got burned very bad just recently.Good luck selling at 17k/pu never forget the general rule get in quick get out quick this is not swing trading folks.
...where did you get 17k/unit from? Are you talking about fuel blocks? Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1489
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:31:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Umar Umarhabib wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
They (or some other entity with massive purchasing power) are definitely investing heavily in destroyers
Whoa that's some massive buying power Maybe a slight exaggeration by using the word 'massive', but there's not all that many entities in game capable of buying up 30-50b ISK worth of a single hull type. I'm pretty sure we're looking at that level based on the price hike. There might be a thousand individual players that *could* afford that, a hundred that regularly carry enough ISK to do it without hurting badly, and a much smaller number of alliances.
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You just have no idea the scale of isk that many individuals and "entities" have in this game, do you? Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1501
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Posted - 2013.08.24 00:46:00 -
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Your post made me sad because it gave me hope that nitropes were back over 1k/unit, since that's where all my orders actually are. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1503
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:44:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Second, CCP has first hand data on everything. CCP have the ability to create a simple script to know the global ice consumption data (smoothed with some EMA) and they can decide to dynamically shrink or enlarge the total ice spawns in game.
Every Ice belt in High/Low/Null, when farmed out will most indeed re-spawn after a 4 hour time period in the amounts respectively of 2500/3000/3500 cubes per respectively. End of story. ed: Please link to any Dev Blogs delineating any changes to occur ever with this particular mechanic.
VV's point is that CCP can easily tune the amount of ice entering the game by changing the respawn time, the number of blocks per belt, or the number of belts in the game. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1504
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:30:00 -
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That'd fundamentally be the same as making the respawn rate longer, since it'd take longer for people to find and clear the belts, so you'd get fewer per day.
It would be some good tears though. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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