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Turgine
Critical Mass ltd.
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:06:00 -
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So what's up with caldari fuel skyrocketing so high? Another ice blockade?
Seems like liquid ozone is on the rise aswell. |
okoolos rimmer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:12:00 -
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Seems to me that fuel block prices have been depressed for a while and now they're hopefully starting to bounce back. |
Aliventi
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:53:00 -
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When the stockpiles start to run out fun things happen. "tbh most people don't care about removing local from highsec. They want it gone from nullsec. I want to be able to solo roam hunt without everyone knowing I am there without them actually seeing me jump through the gate. Effortless intel is bad." ~Me |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4247
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:13:00 -
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I love ice. It's my secret money maker! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Markus Navarro
Osmon Integrated Robotics
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:14:00 -
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Lower supply with Oddyssey. Most stockpiles diminishing. Once it reach a high enough price a few of the bigger players will release a lot and will go down for a little while, then push back up to the new equilibrium I sell drones and drones accessories. |
Turgine
Critical Mass ltd.
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Posted - 2013.08.05 18:22:00 -
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Looking at the price jump it doesn't seem like a "slowly diminishing supply". It looks more like someone bought a huge chunk of isotopes in one go. If the supply isn't cut entirely, the price should rise slowly and definitely not ~25% in one day. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.05 19:01:00 -
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Turgine wrote:Looking at the price jump it doesn't seem like a "slowly diminishing supply". It looks more like someone bought a huge chunk of isotopes in one go. If the supply isn't cut entirely, the price should rise slowly and definitely not ~25% in one day.
Price doesn't show that at all, you have to check volume to see whether anything was abnormal. I'm not at home right now, so I can't.
That said, it's entirely possible for something to deplete and spike in price the way nitropes did without excess volume being purchased. Sellers cluster around a price point and war within that price point, demand exceeding new supply eventually eliminates the supply at that price point, and then you get a big jump in price. Whether the spike is sustained or not depends on how quickly buys fill in, and in this case they filled in very quickly. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
El 1974
Green Visstick High Green Rhino
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:18:00 -
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I think there are more Caldari towers (and Rhea's) than others so Nitrogen stocks might run out faster. There seem to be enough sell orders at ~800, so it should flatten out until those stocks are sold. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:32:00 -
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Coco this is the sign for stick. *wavessledgehammeraround Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:44:00 -
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it was me
i bought eleventy billion nitropes
they are for my garden |
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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
204
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:45:00 -
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nitrogen: it's what plants crave |
IonHammer
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:53:00 -
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Ice mining used to be boring now its a PIA and boring |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
787
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Posted - 2013.08.06 04:51:00 -
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Perhaps ice anoms aren't getting mined out as fast as previous theorycrafting suggested and, overall, we're getting less than that pre-Odyssey 80%.
I'm sure Dr. Eyjo will have some interesting numbers at some point.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
284
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Posted - 2013.08.06 04:56:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote: I'm sure Dr. Eyjo will have some interesting numbers at some point.
That he'll keep to himself.
Any colour you like. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4247
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Posted - 2013.08.06 07:05:00 -
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Samroski wrote:Felicity Love wrote: I'm sure Dr. Eyjo will have some interesting numbers at some point.
That he'll keep to himself.
I am going to post them in the next days. Those who will choose to not look at price in its face, they will suffer the consequences. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Mhax Arthie
115
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Posted - 2013.08.06 07:44:00 -
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that thousand of new POS need to be fueled in Fountain.... |
P3po
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:56:00 -
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The towers were there before too, so nothing changed, only goons are now buying the cubes, not TEST. |
Mhax Arthie
115
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:27:00 -
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P3po wrote:The towers were there before too, so nothing changed, only goons are now buying the cubes, not TEST. And for sure, TEST being a charity alliance has handed over the fuel needed by all these POS, so goons not needed to buy anything on their own. |
Setsune Rin
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:30:00 -
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here's why:
Quote:From: [email protected]/d6cf2e40 Subject: all-all Message: If you haven't been hanging out in Jabber and getting -all- the hints, we are officially rolling out into Caldari highsec for an ice interdiction beginning on or about August 18 and running for a month, give or take. https://goonfleet.com/index.php?/topic/186574-interdiction-nitrogen-burns-august-18-september-18-2013/For those who have never been on an ice interdiction, it is a madhouse of tears, laughs, broken promises, and lots of po-leece. Like most forms of highsec ganking, it is enjoyable to the certain flawed personality types that Goonswarm pilots commonly find themselves with. First-timers are very much welcome. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:50:00 -
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That didn't take long. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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Setsune Rin
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:58:00 -
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just couldn't leave these poor station ornaments milling in uncertainty any longer :P
the amount of goon posting in this thread was a dead giveaway anyway. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4247
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:27:00 -
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mynnna wrote:That didn't take long.
Sounds a bit dumb, why interdict in the month with the least miners online?
Don't tell me that goons started looking at price action and want to amplify it.
*Shows Mittani.com price action article badge* Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:50:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:mynnna wrote:That didn't take long. Sounds a bit dumb, why interdict in the month with the least miners online? It's a fundamental thing, you wouldn't understand.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Don't tell me that goons started looking at price action and want to amplify it.
*Shows Mittani.com price action article badge*
The fact that one tmdc writer opted to run a piece on price action means that, well, one tmdc writer opted to run a piece on price action. I know it's hard to wrap your head around the idea of writers on the site having free will and stuff, but it is true. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Jenny Loo
Vetus Inmortales Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:56:00 -
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They wouldn't even need an interdiction:
1. Organize mining ops for a week or two, keep the topes OR buy a pile before others do 2. Announce a planned interdiction 3. Wait for Jita crowd to go nuts and start stockpiling topes 4. When the price is high enough, sell their stock days before the interdiction is supposed to start 5. PROFIT
Bonus points:
6. Release an email about the interdiction being cancelled 7. Watch Jita traders go crazy shedding tears with all those piles of isotopes
But knowing goons, they would still want blood, so
Extra bonus points:
8. Buy a gazillion of another type of racial isotopes 9. Go for the interdiction in a different racial ice region (chosen in point 8) 10. PROFIT. AGAIN |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4247
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:57:00 -
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mynnna wrote: It's a fundamental thing, you wouldn't understand.
Of course.
The tiny detail about you having such fundamentals data and making the markets, while nobody else has anywhere close to that information is irrelevant to the fact that others can't use as reliable fundamental analysis.
mynnna wrote: The fact that one tmdc writer opted to run a piece on price action means that, well, one tmdc writer opted to run a piece on price action. I know it's hard to wrap your head around the idea of writers on the site having free will and stuff, but it is true.
"Free will"... so much that when I wanted to write a piece on that website (it was not even about economics, figures) I have not been accepted as writer.
So, free will but only after passing a "brain is aligned enough to the desired direction" certification, eh? Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
895
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:01:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:"Free will"... so much that when I wanted to write a piece on that website (it was not even about economics, figures) I have not been accepted as writer.
So, free will but only after passing a "brain is aligned enough to the desired direction" certification, eh? it could either be that somehow all of the stridently anti-goon people like Marlona Sky who can actually write slipped through the stringent ideology checks and somehow have never been discovered despite shooting goons in 4-e, or that you're a terrible writer
this is a deeply vexing problem, let us graph it and smear entrails all over the graphs to determine the answer |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1413
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:02:00 -
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If you weren't accepted as a writer, the most likely reason is that your quality of writing was not judged as up to par.
e: Beaten by Weaselior, but he said it better. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4247
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:06:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:"Free will"... so much that when I wanted to write a piece on that website (it was not even about economics, figures) I have not been accepted as writer.
So, free will but only after passing a "brain is aligned enough to the desired direction" certification, eh? it could either be that somehow all of the stridently anti-goon people like Marlona Sky who can actually write slipped through the stringent ideology checks and somehow have never been discovered despite shooting goons in 4-e, or that you're a terrible writer this is a deeply vexing problem, let us graph it and smear entrails all over the graphs to determine the answer
mynnna wrote:If you weren't accepted as a writer, the most likely reason is that your quality of writing was not judged as up to par.
e: Beaten by Weaselior, but he said it better.
Considering portions of that price action post was copy pasted from my website (with no request for permission... and on copyrighted content btw) apparently my writing was good enough to stick there. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Logical Chaos
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:24:00 -
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Yeah, lets all go nuts on the offtopic. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
895
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:24:00 -
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gotcha anyone who has been quoted in a newspaper for any reason is a good enough writer to write articles for that newspaper |
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