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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:07:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:CompleteFailure wrote:Yeah, being involved in making gaming history is kinda neat. Say what you want, you'll never do that without the blobs. Being a single pixel in a picture that becomes famous means nothing. If you took that one pixel away nobody would notice. Harry is right. Blob warfare at 90% TiDi is garbage, as is alliance play and its shonky metagame politics. Interesting, Mr nobody. On one side, you say that one pixel of mona lisa is irrelevant, you need to have all of them to capture the beauty of it. On the other side you say that blobs (ie having all pixels) is garbage. What a twisted mind.
He's as much a mister nobody to most in eve as you are.You can't ***** eve-fame as you can ***** killmails you know ...
He's saying that in a picture of a 1000 people you can take 1 out without anyone seeing it.Then he adds that a picture of one tells more then a picture of a thousand.
What he is forgetting though is that one person can stand out in a picture of a 1000 people.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
249
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:11:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
249
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:13:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:CompleteFailure wrote:Yeah, being involved in making gaming history is kinda neat. Say what you want, you'll never do that without the blobs. Being a single pixel in a picture that becomes famous means nothing. If you took that one pixel away nobody would notice. Harry is right. Blob warfare at 90% TiDi is garbage, as is alliance play and its shonky metagame politics. Interesting, Mr nobody. On one side, you say that one pixel of mona lisa is irrelevant, you need to have all of them to capture the beauty of it. On the other side you say that blobs (ie having all pixels) is garbage. What a twisted mind. Edit: It also takes some time to really appreciate 90%TiDi blobs. I enjoyed 6VDT stepping back 1 meter from my computer screen, drinking single malt islay scotch whisky, contemplating my dreadnought delivering a slow,very slow and agonizing death to hundreads of prophecies and it was delicious. Google my avatar name. You'll find me in EvE Wiki. Google yours you'll find. . . A couple of forum posts |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11174
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:14:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible.
Well organised fleets with a coherent ship/fitting doctrine are going to be optimal in just about any conceivable meta.
1 Kings 12:11
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Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
29100
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:15:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible.
Blame the game and not the players. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
185
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:15:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible.
Impossible means you haven't found the solution yet. It is possible, but not for one man. pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
566
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:20:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it.
like fast food is not good for your body, too much mindless pew pew is not good for your mind
the game can be very complex if you play it the right way, but some just use a tuned down version
big alliances provide this, so called fast food version of the game, thats what we all need to fight
I see lots of people who got severe braindamage because of it https:// |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:22:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Google my avatar name. You'll find me in EvE Wiki. Google yours you'll find. . . A couple of forum posts
You are no one to me and this is all that matters. I don't care about anything that's not me or my alliance.
Also, I won't come and tell your gameplay is garbage because, honestly, I don't care. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
250
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible. Well organised fleets with a coherent ship/fitting doctrine are going to be optimal in just about any conceivable meta. This would of course be the primary win button however if the system was not deliberately coded to exclude other forms of play there would be other forms of play.
The ability to project those fleets across the entire map in no time at all, identify start ups with F10 msp, as well as a lack of requirement to defend, set up logistics in and out of null claimed space and the ability to lock up huge amounts of null easily prevents any other play style.
Sure one person shouldnt do it, although I currently am because Im insane and illogical, but even 100 people are prevented from doing it. |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:25:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: like fast food is not good for your body, too much mindless pew pew is not good for your mind
Have you consider putting a spy alt in GSF. Maybe you will see from the inside we do a bit more than that...
Then you can continue lying to yourself and to the other people, saying GSF is about pushing F1.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3457
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:26:00 -
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Harry, in all seriousness, you'll never achieve even semi-fame if you keep making threads like these.
In case this is planned as a marketing scheme to gather people, I am almost sorry having to tell you that you will only gather people who aren't worth it in the long run.
We all kind of appreciate your efforts, but most do that only because you are ridiculing (sp? sorry) yourself and they have something to laugh about.
Proof is right in this tthread... and it only achieves that you get angry and people will laugh even more about you.
You say you like bombers bar... and yeah they are great. A few individuals poking the big guys in a way that creates fun for all involved, but not in the same, embarrassing, way as you do.
So... if you want to achieve something, then look at what the achievers do... and do not. Like... making silly rant threads that lead to nothing.
The biggest of all is that actions speak louder than words... and all you do so far is using words, because there is nothing else that brings you attention.
Try again, but differently. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
250
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:31:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Harry, in all seriousness, you'll never achieve even semi-fame if you keep making threads like these.
In case this is planned as a marketing scheme to gather people, I am almost sorry having to tell you that you will only gather people who aren't worth it in the long run.
We all kind of appreciate your efforts, but most do that only because you are ridiculing (sp? sorry) yourself and they have something to laugh about.
Proof is right in this tthread... and it only achieves that you get angry and people will laugh even more about you.
You say you like bombers bar... and yeah they are great. A few individuals poking the big guys in a way that creates fun for all involved, but not in the same, embarrassing, way as you do.
So... if you want to achieve something, then look at what the achievers do... and do not. Like... making silly rant threads that lead to nothing.
The biggest of all is that actions speak louder than words... and all you do so far is using words, because there is nothing else that brings you attention.
Try again, but differently. Never spoken to him or you. But I know who he is and what he does. You I just have no clue on.
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:43:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Solstice Project wrote:... Never spoken to him or you. But I know who he is and what he does. You I just have no clue on.
And yet you can't recognize which one of the two makes sense. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11174
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:46:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Malcanis wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible. Well organised fleets with a coherent ship/fitting doctrine are going to be optimal in just about any conceivable meta. This would of course be the primary win button however if the system was not deliberately coded to exclude other forms of play there would be other forms of play. The ability to project those fleets across the entire map in no time at all, identify start ups with F10 msp, as well as a lack of requirement to defend, set up logistics in and out of null claimed space and the ability to lock up huge amounts of null easily prevents any other play style. Sure one person shouldnt do it, although I currently am because Im insane and illogical, but even 100 people are prevented from doing it.
Hmmm so maybe if CCP added a few thousand systems where power projection was incredibly difficult, but the rewards were high enough to make the additional logistics overheads worth tolerating for small, skillfull groups?
Yeah I like where your suggestions are leading. I like it so much I just used my magic CSM time machine and got CCP to implement it back in 2009.
1 Kings 12:11
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
566
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:47:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Harry, in all seriousness, you'll never achieve even semi-fame if you keep making threads like these.
In case this is planned as a marketing scheme to gather people, I am almost sorry having to tell you that you will only gather people who aren't worth it in the long run.
We all kind of appreciate your efforts, but most do that only because you are ridiculing (sp? sorry) yourself and they have something to laugh about.
Proof is right in this tthread... and it only achieves that you get angry and people will laugh even more about you.
You say you like bombers bar... and yeah they are great. A few individuals poking the big guys in a way that creates fun for all involved, but not in the same, embarrassing, way as you do.
So... if you want to achieve something, then look at what the achievers do... and do not. Like... making silly rant threads that lead to nothing.
The biggest of all is that actions speak louder than words... and all you do so far is using words, because there is nothing else that brings you attention.
Try again, but differently.
the only one speaking much in anger without content is you dude, and the only one laughing was me and the other guy when you tried to sneak up on us in game and you did not even know what you want to tell us... that was pretty silly, please look in the mirror and try to do better next time
big content is story, I don't see yours... I think you just don't get the topic https:// |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2013.08.07 09:59:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: the only one speaking much in anger without content is you dude, and the only one laughing was me and the other guy when you tried to sneak up on us in game and you did not even know what you want to tell us... that was pretty silly, please look in the mirror and try to do better next time
big content is story, I don't see yours... I think you just don't get the topic
blablabla.
People try to help you, you should just listen to them. Even teenagers listen more than you.
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
1285
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:06:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible.
The problem actually is that the sandbox has made it possible to do this.What a lot of people don't understand is that if you open up a lot of possibilities the solution usually becomes more narrowminded/standard then when you enforce rules.
Rules like maximum amount of blue standing , maximum number of systems being held by one corp/alliance , minimum amount of 'participation' in a system to keep sov , etc
I myself much dislike the blobstyle but it is something made possible thanks to the sandbox ... i would welcome more boundries with open arms.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
1285
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:08:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. like fast food is not good for your body, too much mindless pew pew is not good for your mind the game can be very complex if you play it the right way, but some just use a tuned down version big alliances provide this so called fast food version of the game, thats what we all need to fight I see lots of people who got severe braindamage because of it
Helping out fellow victims are we ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2191
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:20:00 -
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You try to hard... which is why I think you're a joke.
People that make a change do... they dont tell others they are planning on doing something. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
253
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:26:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Malcanis wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mizhir wrote:What part of Sandbox doesn't ppl understand?
If someone likes to do blob warfare, let him do it. Null is not sandbox. Null mechanics in place at the moment mean there is only one way to do anything in null and thats blob alliances. A true null sec sandbox would allow for new emergent null gameplay. This is currently impossible. Well organised fleets with a coherent ship/fitting doctrine are going to be optimal in just about any conceivable meta. This would of course be the primary win button however if the system was not deliberately coded to exclude other forms of play there would be other forms of play. The ability to project those fleets across the entire map in no time at all, identify start ups with F10 msp, as well as a lack of requirement to defend, set up logistics in and out of null claimed space and the ability to lock up huge amounts of null easily prevents any other play style. Sure one person shouldnt do it, although I currently am because Im insane and illogical, but even 100 people are prevented from doing it. Hmmm so maybe if CCP added a few thousand systems where power projection was incredibly difficult, but the rewards were high enough to make the additional logistics overheads worth tolerating for small, skillfull groups? Yeah I like where your suggestions are leading. I like it so much I just used my magic CSM time machine and got CCP to implement it back in 2009. Wormholes are a crusty bone CCP threw out there to make up for the shonky null mechanics. They're annoying to live in, annoying to have any active sort of systems war. Some people want to fight for and participate in null. Like me. However its not possible to do that with the way null is atm. |
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2077
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:33:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:the fountain war did not bring up a single honorable personality, at least I did not hear of any, yea we did hear about the 4000 ship fight, but nothing more meaningful Because you're on the outside looking in. Or worse, you're on the outside looking at someone else looking in and writing about it.
We actually had a really good time. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2077
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:35:00 -
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Also, how are you missing the irony here? You wanted to get all of highsec to rise up and fight us, outblobbing us in your "goons doomsday" nonsense.
I guess now it failed (3 people turned up lmbo) you're against large numbers again?
Convenient, I guess, to always ret-con what you like to suit what you're doing. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2191
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:37:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the fountain war did not bring up a single honorable personality, at least I did not hear of any, yea we did hear about the 4000 ship fight, but nothing more meaningful Because you're on the outside looking in. Or worse, you're on the outside looking at someone else looking in and writing about it. We actually had a really good time.
You could also add why should it have brought out a single honorable personality. I would say props goes for everybody involved in the fight. And do you really want people to know who masterminded the strategies used to win the fight? "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
1285
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:43:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Wormholes are a crusty bone CCP threw out there to make up for the shonky null mechanics. They're annoying to live in, annoying to have any active sort of systems war. Some people want to fight for and participate in null. Like me. However its not possible to do that with the way null is atm.
Anyone can participate in null , but fighting for something as in terms of sov etc has been a blob thing for a long time.One of the first reall blobs i can think of is the camp of ASCN+BOB in ecp / pure blind for the system and that is years and years ago. I remember how we all where verry excited to be part of this new technique to 'blot out the sun' and cheering for our 'achievement'.
In reality it was boring as hell but it did the trick it needed to do and in a battle if something works in your favour you will want to use it untill it does not work any more.Small corps and alliances have had no place in sov null for a damn long time unless under a protectors umbrella as a renter/fetchdog and i don't ever see it happening either.That is what npc null is for and in my exprience npc null is just as much if not more fun then sov null so i don't quite see what would be the problem to choosing that part of the game if you dislike null sov as it is.
The ability to put more and more players in a system is something both CCP and a lot of people cheer for every time like the fight a few weeks ago.Oddly enough every time i see that boundry go up i can't help but think it is a step back and not a step forward.
But hey , can't please everyone eh .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3457
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Posted - 2013.08.07 10:47:00 -
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The sad part is that you really believe the crap you say and are too blinded by all your hatred, which you are full of, else you had no need for threads like these.
Well... keep going. Your future iin EvE is predictable already.
Internet psychologists would probably conclude that the reason why you whine about "sheep/ants" is because you are one yourself and can't accept that, thus have the need to project it onto the others.
*shrugs*
Bombers bar are doing it right. You are doing it wrong.
You are a loser. A wannabe.
Try again, but differently. |

William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
185
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:05:00 -
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He is going to block you Solstice because you are making sense. Go Harry! Onwards to victory! The saviour we need but don't want :') pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
566
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:09:00 -
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William Walker wrote:He is going to block you Solstice because you are making sense. Go Harry! Onwards to victory! The saviour we need but don't want :')
blocked him after his first comment 3 month ago, howevver I check some comments from time to time in case i get bored :')
so many are talking, I need to tune down a few, its just too much to handle... most of them anyway just repeat stuff sombody else said https:// |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
566
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:13:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the fountain war did not bring up a single honorable personality, at least I did not hear of any, yea we did hear about the 4000 ship fight, but nothing more meaningful Because you're on the outside looking in. Or worse, you're on the outside looking at someone else looking in and writing about it. We actually had a really good time.
no you did not... at least thats what you guys keept telling me all the time, when I created some story content... sounds silly right? https:// |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2192
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:15:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:William Walker wrote:He is going to block you Solstice because you are making sense. Go Harry! Onwards to victory! The saviour we need but don't want :') blocked him after his first comment 3 month ago, howevver I check some comments from time to time in case i get bored :') so many are talking, I need to tune down a few, its just too much to handle... most of them anyway just repeat stuff sombody else said
Harry Blocked me to... but that is because I went into his channel and called him a joke. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
566
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Posted - 2013.08.07 11:18:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Also, how are you missing the irony here? You wanted to get all of highsec to rise up and fight us, outblobbing us in your "goons doomsday" nonsense.
I guess now it failed (3 people turned up lmbo) you're against large numbers again?
Convenient, I guess, to always ret-con what you like to suit what you're doing.
the difference with goons doomsday was, that the masses just prefer burgers vs. sushi... its easy
I was fine with the 10 people who showed up... there are not many individulas around
hard to find them in real life, hard to find them in a game, but i did... https:// |
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