Gallente shuttle. It's just too light in the loafers. Compare it to the Minmatar Advanced/Tie Interceptor, the Amarr shuttles A-Wing fighter, or the stark cold efficient lines of the Caldari shuttle.

The Gallente shuttle is something that is only piloted by people named Biff who drink cauliflower milkshakes while wearing pastel colored sweaters draped over their shoulders.

Total. Frelling. Travesty. IMO.

Vargur/tempest

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

I bet it's the Raven, it has needed a symetrical look for epicness for a while now.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

I hate you. Cocktease.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

Typhoon and tempest could need a new republic revision.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

pretty sure we were already told that the guy responsible for Scorpion and Maller did also design a new Raven

but symmetry is boring and doesn't fit the caldari philosophy (functionality and efficiency above everything else) not at all.

Leave symmetry to the Amarr with their christian-derived religion (YHWH 4 letters and 4=2*2=2^2 symmetrical in every way), their rigid hierarchies, their conservatism, ...

And if you want beautiful designs (designed for humans) go gallente, no caldari would care about that.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

This would be a lot more informative if all these assholes didn't list virtually every ship before you made your post!

I bet it's the Raven, it has needed a symetrical look for epicness for a while now.

I'd say that the one that has the direst need is the Raven.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

I keep seeing Caldari pilots complaining about the look of the Raven. I really can't understand why - it's one of the best looking ships in the Caldari repertoire.

Besides, you've already had the new Scorpion. Someone else's turn now.

This would be a lot more informative if all these assholes didn't list virtually every ship before you made your post!

Already spoiled this toy here

Indeed this is good piece of art, but I still hope that CCP devs not making all ship revamps equal to making them symmetrical.

Besides, you've already had the new Scorpion. Someone else's turn now.

It would be nice (in a role-playing sense) that any ships CCP redesigns is released as a version 2.0 while those that own the original 1.0 would have a "collector's item".

I hope its the Moa, there are a buttload of hulls based on it and it's a horrible ship.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

Some of these are variations of others in the list.

Raven
Moa
Maelstrom
Inquisitor
Tormentor
Bantam
Condor
Imicus
Vigil
Cerebus
Eagle
Onyx
Typhoon
Panther
Golem

You leave my Maelstrom alone , ya bastards.

Moa/Eagle/Onyx are the same hull.
Raven/Golem also same hull
Typhoon/Panther same hull again.
Cerebus is the same hull as the Caracal.

and WTF is the Mael doing on here?

You leave my Maelstrom alone , ya bastards.
Moa/Eagle/Onyx are the same hull.
Raven/Golem also same hull
Typhoon/Panther same hull again.
Cerebus is the same hull as the Caracal.

and WTF is the Mael doing on here?

Besides the ships sharing the same hull are perfectly fine doing so - they're just pimped T2 versions of existing ships - kinda like a normal Mercedes and an AMG Mercedes.
Having them use different hulls would'nt make any sense.

Concerning ugly ships in general, I'd call out the Moros, Tempest, Dominix, Apoc and Prophecy hulls.

And trust me I know ugly.

Tempest - Ya know which ship has the best combat profile in Eve? A freaking Covetor! Compare that to the Tempest and it's easy to see what it's kinda silly.

Indeed this is good piece of art, but I still hope that CCP devs not making all ship revamps equal to making them symmetrical.

Oh please, ffs leave my minmatar ships alone and fly caldari/gallente/amarr or whatever else.

Old EVE designs = best designs. Ship revamping should add them fresh models and textures keeping old style, not making them look like symmetrical plastic toys.

+1
It will be a terrible day when all the ships will be symmetrical. EVE ships will lose all they charm.

pretty sure we were already told that the guy responsible for Scorpion and Maller did also design a new Raven

but symmetry is boring and doesn't fit the caldari philosophy (functionality and efficiency above everything else) at all.

Leave symmetry to the Amarr with their christian-derived religion (YHWH 4 letters and 4=2*2=2^2 symmetrical in every way), their rigid hierarchies, their conservatism, ...

And if you want beautiful designs (designed for humans) go gallente, no caldari would care about that.

Tempest is fine.
Typhoon and Maelstrom are dumb looking compared to all the rest of the Minmatar ships (aside from a couple frigs)

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

I support this ^^
Even ready to buy old Scorpion for aurum, just to have and spin it in my hangar.


It's Condor/Crow hull.
Also current Moa is beautiful and original. And USS Enterprise is piece of ugly symmetrical spacejunk

The Drake is one of the worst looking ships in the game. Besides being more overplayed than the latest Black Eyed Peas single, its appearance is more akin to a white soggy cardboard box.

It would be much harder to hate the Drake if it wasn't so damn ugly. I can't wait to start watching them get alpha'd left and right once the new BC's are released!

The Drake is one of the worst looking ships in the game. Besides being more overplayed than the latest Black Eyed Peas single, its appearance is more akin to a white soggy cardboard box.

reskinned ship is the nightmare (again)

Already spoiled this toy here

Indeed this is good piece of art, but I still hope that CCP devs not making all ship revamps equal to making them symmetrical.

Given the Drake is the Honda civic of Eve, it's supposed to be ugly.

Symmetry is associated with beauty, and most easily associated with when it's bilateral symmetry.

I keep seeing Caldari pilots complaining about the look of the Raven. I really can't understand why - it's one of the best looking ships in the Caldari repertoire.

I may be a bit controversial here. I think supercarriers need to be made simply physically larger. To reflect their build requirements over carriers and dreads. I think a 30% size buff would be appropriate.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

Already spoiled this toy here

Indeed this is good piece of art, but I still hope that CCP devs not making all ship revamps equal to making them symmetrical.

Its the silly spikes under the wing and the tiny bridge. I would be glad with a Raven redesign, but.....

Moa needs it more, its current look doesn't show any functionality.

If its the Condor/Crow (as seen in that youtube link), then I am changing my skill plan for it, as before it was too ugly for me to use.

Hands off the Dominix, it's one the most distinctive ships ingame (and beyond)!

I am at loss why not more Dominix-lovers are speaking up here, I suppose they are too busy pwning all over Eve to find time to post.

Hands off the Dominix, it's one the most distinctive ships ingame (and beyond)!

I am at loss why not more Dominix-lovers are speaking up here, I suppose they are too busy pwning all over Eve to find time to post.

Word. Don't understand where all the domi hate comes from. It's more beautiful and characteristic than any of the T3s tbh.

I bet it's the Raven, it has needed a symetrical look for epicness for a while now.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome

there was a domi that a eve player made that sleeked it up but retained the entire shape still.

It was along this lines but the guy made a model and skinned it.

....

bleh I cant find it, i know its bad when I go searching for a ship picture somone else did and I find my deleted ones.

Gallente shuttle. It's just too light in the loafers. Compare it to the Minmatar Advanced/Tie Interceptor, the Amarr shuttles A-Wing fighter, or the stark cold efficient lines of the Caldari shuttle.

The Gallente shuttle is something that is only piloted by people named Biff who drink cauliflower milkshakes while wearing pastel colored sweaters draped over their shoulders.

Total. Frelling. Travesty. IMO.

Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

I guess so?

Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

Dominix is not the most ugly ship but it needs midification most. because it looks exactly the same as those rogue drones----something evoloved totally on themselves and uninterfered by the human. It doesn't make sense that they have the same look as human made spaceship.

I suggest that you redo the dominix and leave the rogue drones as they are----domi is ugly anyway.

BTW, the MOST ugly ship, in my opinion, is Typhoon the space dustbin.

confirming the domi has about as much character as Gilbert Gottfried

I'd love to see some ships get a makeover. Just some ideas of mine:

Raven - make the two wings the same size and shape, but transfer that protrusion on the right wing to the left; pull in those radial spikes under the right wing just a bit; breakup the windows on the cockpit to look like several levels instead of giant windows; get rid of the tubes; center the model along the cockpit-engine axis

Moa - keep the off-center bridge part and lower right engine thing, they balance each other; either mirror the left engine pod on the left with the right, mirroring the body as well, or mirror the right side with the left; align the model to a central axis that runs between the two engines in the rear (currently feels like it's slightly off-center to those)

Coercer - just make the body and engines symmetrical, mirror either side with the other, while keeping the side cockpit

Imicus - straighten out the main body so it's freakin' vertical and then mirror the side wing

Tempest - move the bottom leg to the center of the ship, maybe center that engine pod on the bottom of it as well

Stabber - mirror that engine on the right with the left

Typhoon - get rid of that thing on the bottom rear that looks like a lowered landing platform; remove that engine on the upper left; get rid of the giant tubes, or maybe makes them thinner and more numerous, like a bunch of smaller tubes instead of one giant one

Omen - get rid of that side thing, the shield arm I've heard it commonly called

Crucifier - maybe mirror the right side with the left, but keep the tower as well, just add something to that side so it doesn't look so unbalanced

Kestral - pull in that right pod just a bit, so it's the same distance from the center as the left pod; mirror the rear of the right pod with the left; straighten out the angle of the right wing tip and make it symmetrical with the left

Blackbird - generally mirror the right side with the left, make it kinda look like a flying wing, but keep the asymmetrical central structures

Thorax - mirror the right side onto the left, that whole lower engine pod looks really cool

Exequror - just balance and make even the engines

Celestis - just mirror the left side, sans that cockpit, onto the right

Machariel - get rid of that pod on the upper left, but keep that tower there

Megathron - get rid of that pod on the upper left as well

Atron - mirror the left side onto the right, minus that side cockpit

Osprey - just mirror the right side onto the left

Navitas - mirror the right side onto the left

Bantam - just make it symmetrical

Cormorant - make the rear wings symmetrical, but keep that cockpit like structure on the left side

Aeon - make it symmetrical

Phoenix - make those wings symmetrical

Thanatos - just make the rear and engines symmetrical

Word. Don't understand where all the domi hate comes from. It's more beautiful and characteristic than any of the T3s tbh.

I'd love to see some ships get a makeover. Just some ideas of mine:

Raven - make the two wings the same size and shape, but transfer that protrusion on the right wing to the left; pull in those radial spikes under the right wing just a bit; breakup the windows on the cockpit to look like several levels instead of giant windows; get rid of the tubes; center the model along the cockpit-engine axis

Moa - keep the off-center bridge part and lower right engine thing, they balance each other; either mirror the left engine pod on the left with the right, mirroring the body as well, or mirror the right side with the left; align the model to a central axis that runs between the two engines in the rear (currently feels like it's slightly off-center to those)

Coercer - just make the body and engines symmetrical, mirror either side with the other, while keeping the side cockpit

Imicus - straighten out the main body so it's freakin' vertical and then mirror the side wing

Tempest - move the bottom leg to the center of the ship, maybe center that engine pod on the bottom of it as well

Stabber - mirror that engine on the right with the left

Typhoon - get rid of that thing on the bottom rear that looks like a lowered landing platform; remove that engine on the upper left; get rid of the giant tubes, or maybe makes them thinner and more numerous, like a bunch of smaller tubes instead of one giant one

Omen - get rid of that side thing, the shield arm I've heard it commonly called

Crucifier - maybe mirror the right side with the left, but keep the tower as well, just add something to that side so it doesn't look so unbalanced

Kestral - pull in that right pod just a bit, so it's the same distance from the center as the left pod; mirror the rear of the right pod with the left; straighten out the angle of the right wing tip and make it symmetrical with the left

Blackbird - generally mirror the right side with the left, make it kinda look like a flying wing, but keep the asymmetrical central structures

Thorax - mirror the right side onto the left, that whole lower engine pod looks really cool

Exequror - just balance and make even the engines

Celestis - just mirror the left side, sans that cockpit, onto the right

Machariel - get rid of that pod on the upper left, but keep that tower there

Megathron - get rid of that pod on the upper left as well

Atron - mirror the left side onto the right, minus that side cockpit

Osprey - just mirror the right side onto the left

Navitas - mirror the right side onto the left

Bantam - just make it symmetrical

Cormorant - make the rear wings symmetrical, but keep that cockpit like structure on the left side

Aeon - make it symmetrical

Phoenix - make those wings symmetrical

Thanatos - just make the rear and engines symmetrical

Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

Good ideas, and relatively easy to do :) That would take me a month or so to do and then make final drafts.

+1 from Petey, with love.

Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

You got it backwards.

Rogue drones salvage everything they can.. and so they salvaged dominixes and repurpused them for their use.

Was this it?

domi

Not sure if he ever finished it.

EDIT - no idea why the forums don't like this post

Was this it?

domi

Not sure if he ever finished it.

EDIT - no idea why the forums don't like this post

I'll have what you're smoking dude. Moa looks like a dilapidated chicken.

Your mom needs a makeover.

Your mom needs a makeover.

Children...........

Was this it?

domi

Not sure if he ever finished it.

EDIT - no idea why the forums don't like this post

That looks like one of those excessively over-styled running shoes.


edit: But then the Vexor looks like a flying blow-dryer or glue-gun, so I guess there's precedent for ships shaped like household items.

Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

Would just like to know from you forum gods what ships in eve are in the most need of being redesigned.

Yes, I know. There are lots of other things that need to be fixed with eve......

And this is relatively a minor issue. But I was curious on the eve communities input on what ships should be redesigned.

I personally think that the Osprey and Dominix hull would be a good place to start.

What do you guys think?

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"Your Erebus is docked? How the frack did that happen?" "It took a lot of grease and pushing......."

Going on the lore of the game, wasn't the Dominix a ramming ship as its original intention?

The Moa will always hold a special place for me. Once I was able to ~advance~ from my Merlin to the Moa, hearing those unique engines told me I was moving up to bigger and better things. Of course, this was during a gaming world where seeing a battleship meant someone was deadly, powerful, and rich!

Personally, I rather see the ships retain their original designed shape and just get detailed here and there. Subtly work launchers into the mix if such a ship is known for being that type (like the Raven). Perhaps review the in-game data and size ships closer to the numbers. A Megathron looks large while a Rokh looks small next to it.

Looking at your mugshot, I think you need a makeover. Alot of the ships in the game are fine the way they are. There's no point changing them after years of being a part of the game. Except making them shinier with EXTRA shine.

Hey Kids it's the Raven;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8kBAWayqELU#t=208s

i sure hope thats not the "new" raven...

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with the current one tbfh

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with the current one tbfh

Am I the only one that likes the Moa?

The Tempest.

I really like its overall look, but it has some very ugly artwork on it, and that giant air intake vent on the side just looks strange,. I dont think that should be removed, but it should be worked on!

And hopefully they do something about the Ibis. My god, its the ugliest little baby i've ever seen. Imagine that being your first ship in this game! The starter ships really need a look. This is the introduction players get to eve. Their first ships should look good.

Raptor wil becoming more and more my all time frig.

DPS with rails, tackle range, cheap, fast and now gorgerous looking!!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/sarmatiko#p/u/1/knGTl0fUAzM

Asymmetry in the designs is one of the characteristic features in Eve's ships.

Yeah, and that's why a lot of them look like horse and carts rather than sports cars.

The Gallente shuttle is something that is only piloted by people named Biff who drink cauliflower milkshakes while wearing pastel colored sweaters draped over their shoulders.

There's nothing wrong with the vaga design.......

There's nothing wrong with it if you like a ship that has icicles all over it (and far too many icicles at at that) and which is the only Minmatar ship to have its fins not in a planar angle with part of the hull, which not only makes it look like it has the head of an Egyptian statue, it also looks un-Minmatar.

I like the fact that it looks like a rubber chicken.

Pretty much Every Gal frig, look like buggers. and a couple of the cruisers are just goofy.

These are combat ships, they should look like ships of war, not art projects.

There's nothing wrong with the vaga design.......

Ships that are looking decent and don't really need any improvement;

Punisher
Crusader
Arby
Maller
Legion
Cormorant
Armageddon
Abaddon
Ferox
Thrasher
Hurricane
Nyx

... that's about it (I may have missed one or two) :-)

Must say I was quite shocked when I started playing EVE and worked my way up from Ibis to Bantam to Kestrel and how ugly all the ships were. I even cross trained Amarr immediately because every single Caldari cruiser was too ugly to fly.

Eventually you get used to it (although there's some ghastly hulls I still refuse to fly like Moa or Bellicose) but pretty ships aren't exactly EVE's greatest asset and I can't imagine the average ship's looks will be the reason people decide to play EVE.

The number of new players that bail on EVE early in their carreers just because they realize how terribly ugly these ships really are has to be significant. You'd think they'd want to retain as many new players as possible.

I have a brother that played for one day and just laughed at them. Totally turned him off to EVE.

The ugliness of EVE ships literally costs CCP money. I bet far more than they realize.

Since I so love to tease you guys just let me say that one of the ships listed in this thread is actually getting a makeover for Winter.

You're welcome