Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
518
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 10:46:00 -
[1] - Quote
Shield Extenders are modules used on ships everywhere, usually fast kiting ships. The bonus they provide is overpowered, unfair, and allows for to much power projection. An entire fleet can bridge across a region to an unsuspecting small gang who would never engage that lone Rohk, which is covered in shield extenders, if they knew it had a cyno.
I am tired of engaging some newbie Rattlesnake solo in my active Thorax and being unable to break it's shield regen. This completely undermines the role of the cruiser, which is obviously to take on super-brick tanked battleships. I propose that fitting a shield extender would have a shield regeneration penalty, equal to what the regeneration bonus is right now. Logistics would be required to passive tank shield, much like armor. Doing this would also promote CCP's current focus of active tanking shield ships, and armor tanking the Gallente/Amarr Attack Ships.
The shield regeneration algorithm could be modified to "stabilize" at a certain percentage of shield hitpoints, based on the total shield and regen strength curve. The larger the shield pool, the lower the percentage of shield would stabilize at. Adding more buffer would however, make the shield "regen" stronger that it was previously. We could see some shield buffer-active setups meant to have a massive total pool of hitpoints to maintain, but would require onboard reps to reach maximum capacity. Incoming shield logistics would also fall off at a curve percentage of the total shield pool, effected by the amount of shield extenders.
Here is an incredibly detailed diagram I have created over the past several days to prove my point. Please take the time to read the above before reading my diagram. Diagram Yarr |
Templar Knightsbane
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
71
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 10:50:00 -
[2] - Quote
lalaalalalalaalal la la laa laa lalaaaa
|
baltec1
Bat Country
7510
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 10:53:00 -
[3] - Quote
CCP, nerf people who don't shitfit their ships! |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
197
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 10:55:00 -
[4] - Quote
RIP Troll man from Russia :( pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
864
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:03:00 -
[5] - Quote
It's dead, Jim. |
Azurae
South West Trading
98
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:09:00 -
[6] - Quote
on the first paragraph i thought this thread might actually be a somewhat decent troll but you totally ruined it in the first 2 sentences of the second paragraph, after which i stopped reading. the troll became way to obvious there...
1/10 (that 1 point is just for the first paragraph, based on the second paragraph you would get 0/10) |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2532
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:10:00 -
[7] - Quote
You're new to forum trolling aren't you?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
46
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:24:00 -
[8] - Quote
is this supposed to be the new rick roll or something? |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels R O G U E
1297
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:40:00 -
[9] - Quote
Baltec fell for it though ... so i give this troll a generous ......................
drumrollllllllllllllllllllllll
9/10
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
|
Takari
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
58
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:41:00 -
[10] - Quote
Wait, is this a nerf afk cloaking parody? Or OGB? I can't keep up anymore.. "Roll the dice, don't think twice. This is the way of things.
Welcome to EVE." ~ CCP Falcon |
|
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
167
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:51:00 -
[11] - Quote
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
No, but seriously. I've seen better... |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
1028
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:52:00 -
[12] - Quote
Takari wrote:Wait, is this a nerf afk cloaking parody? Or OGB? I can't keep up anymore.. it's a nerf nerfs on mods and/or players parody. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4093
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 11:55:00 -
[13] - Quote
Grimpak wrote:Takari wrote:Wait, is this a nerf afk cloaking parody? Or OGB? I can't keep up anymore.. it's a nerf nerfs on mods and/or players parody. Pretty meta There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3507
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 12:25:00 -
[14] - Quote
CHRIBBA !!!!!! |
Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 12:39:00 -
[15] - Quote
When I go to the pharmacy before an evening alone with ~my significant other~ I always have to extend my shield. The normal ones don't fit. ^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7 |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1743
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 12:49:00 -
[16] - Quote
I give this... 1/10 maybe? Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
GetSirrus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
48
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 13:13:00 -
[17] - Quote
Lugia3 wrote:I am tired...
we can chalk that up to playing with yourself a multi-player game.
1. get friends 2. multi task roles 3 ???? 4 profit.
|
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
518
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 13:16:00 -
[18] - Quote
GetSirrus wrote:Lugia3 wrote:I am tired... we can chalk that up to playing with yourself a multi-player game. 1. get friends 2. multi task roles 3 ???? 4 profit.
Make that two who didn't click on my expertly drawn diagram. Yarr |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1115
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 13:33:00 -
[19] - Quote
flakeys wrote:Baltec fell for it though ... so i give this troll a generous ......................
drumrollllllllllllllllllllllll
9/10
The guy didn't saw the flaw in his explanation so I'll give him an 8/10
However the point of SEs is debatable. Try to fit 800plates in to frigates or medium armor reps and see what happens. When you fit 1600 on your cruisers its at the extreme cost of fittings/cpu/rigs increasing the ship tank for sure but with huge drawbacks for ships who need speed to get in range to apply any dmg, most often have to downgrade their weapons to lower tiers on top of PG/CPU rig/mod, and still not able to fit a large AAR, shield cruisers can fit XL-ASBs repping twice the amount of LAAR
Frigs with medium shield extenders or ASB's? -no problem and no trade off for weapon system for a minus sign bloom impact sure very important on paper but since angular velocity negates a huge chunk of incoming dmg, this is less of a drawback and they still fit higher tier weapons.
Cruisers with double LARGE SHIELD extender, higher tier weapons etc and is no secret for whoever pvp these mods are OP on kitting setups because they trade little for huge advantages. (amount is not really important but fittings yes) Large and medium shield extenders have to be better balanced so frigates start using small shield extenders boosters and ASBs instead of mediums
This means small SEs/SBs/ASBs need a good buff at the same level of armor reps where is the only rep size where armor reps are almost fine. And also means fittings for medium and large SE/SB/ASBs as butt to HP bonus need a good take a look at too so if someone wants to fit more than one LSE in a cruiser he should have as much pain to fit his ship as an armor one (it's a real puzzle sometimes)
Gimme 5 *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
|
ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
179
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 13:39:00 -
[20] - Quote
I locked it because Any troll is still a troll, No matter how good.
Trolling is prohibited. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |