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Tomus
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:26:00 -
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Is one of the rudest things I have ever read. Considering we are paying customers of this game to be "spoken" to like nothing but a mere bunch of school children is coarse and patronising.
I have been playing the game and enjoying it immenseley for a couple of weeks now but I find that beyond the pale and am seriously reconsidering whether to renew my account. Even though I was no where near what actually happened to speak to your customers in this way is shocking. An explanation and POLITE request would have sufficed.
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:27:00 -
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So what about the "paying customers" who talk to CCP, and the Polaris team, in a rude, uncouth and offensive manner? oO
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Othnark
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:28:00 -
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Well damnit man. Do you stop your car, get out, and stomp up and down on roadkill on the side of the road too?
Its done, over, dead, finished. Leave it alone already.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:30:00 -
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[chuckles as he watches Tomus flogging a dead horse]
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Tomus
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:31:00 -
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It was the wording and tone of the sticky. Rudeness is uncalled for from whatever angle.
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cball
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:38:00 -
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Is one of the rudest things I have ever read. Considering we are paying customers of this game to be "spoken" to like nothing but a mere bunch of school children is coarse and patronising.
I have been playing the game and enjoying it immenseley for a couple of weeks now but I find that beyond the pale and am seriously reconsidering whether to renew my account. Even though I was no where near what actually happened to speak to your customers in this way is shocking. An explanation and POLITE request would have sufficed.
Well by you posting this message, you fall into that catagory.
The GM's are forced to be BLUNT when dealing with 'children' that can't seem to follow the rules, or listen to the 'polite' chats while in the game..
Now go cry to your mommy and stop whining in here.
...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:38:00 -
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You are misinterpreting rudeness for firmness.
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slacker
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: slacker on 18/08/2003 13:39:59
Got to say I agree.
They RP everything - so when you read the news you often cannot understand exactly what the real technical problem is through all the RP spin.
Then a female GM gets wasted in game (fair game when GMs have tried to attack paying players before).
The response from the other GMs is to try and show off by hauling Ywev to Polaris.
I don't agree with piracy, but the GMs should be more responsible and RP a situation properly and not behave as they have in this instance.
CCP need to introduce a court and appeal system.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:40:00 -
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Dear GM's.
If you are going to present yourself in the game, have GOD MODE turned on.
If you are too stoopid to do this , well if you get killed podded you are only to blame yourself.
If you think that all the people playing online games are going to heed a threat, then you are sadly mistaken.
Every online game has gm's, and all have god mode. do yourself a favor and turn it on.
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Quantum Gopher
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Quantum Gopher on 18/08/2003 13:57:29
The way I read the "Attacking GMs Message":
They are there to do a job, not play the game. If you interfere with them, you risk repercussions. In short, don't attack them. It would also probably be a good idea not to attack others around them as they may be trying to solve a problem that requires the GM's presence in the game. Some problems need to be solved from a player's point of view.
I believe a temp-ban would be justified for the duration of the situation for players that interfere. Be happy that the GMs don't disable all offensive/defensive modules while they're in the sector (assuming that isn't too difficult to implement).
Edit: I refer to official on duty GMs, with the GM title in their name. Characters played by the GMs (Concord Special Forces etc) are an entirely different subject and not related to this situation.
Q. Gopher
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Ubiq
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ubiq on 18/08/2003 13:52:09
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Dear GM's.
If you are going to present yourself in the game, have GOD MODE turned on.
If you are too stoopid to do this , well if you get killed podded you are only to blame yourself.
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I didn't find it rude. I found the above rude and ingnorant.
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Tomus
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:52:00 -
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Now go cry to your mommy and stop whining in here.
Nice.
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slacker
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: slacker on 18/08/2003 13:55:18
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They are there to do a job, not play the game. If you interfere with them, you risk repercussions. In short, don't attack them. It
It was only 3 weeks ago that a couple of GMs warped into a blockade and if I remember correctly PvP'd a BS.
You can't have it both ways.
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.08.18 13:56:00 -
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Quote:
Dear GM's.
If you are going to present yourself in the game, have GOD MODE turned on.
If you are too stoopid to do this , well if you get killed podded you are only to blame yourself.
If you think that all the people playing online games are going to heed a threat, then you are sadly mistaken.
Every online game has gm's, and all have god mode. do yourself a favor and turn it on.
If they had God mode on, people (Especially those that see fit to interfere with the help system by attacking GMs) would just complain and shout about how "unfair" things were.
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:01:00 -
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I hate to say it this way - but if you approach the situation from Moo¦s point of view:
some time ago a few GM¦s in Battleships warped to their Gate-Blokade and tried to shoot the hell out of them (they killed and podded 1 of them) - the rest got away
now yesterday a GM in a non Polaris ship approaches Moo Blockade - and they are not allowed to fire ?? Hmm - strange bending of "Rules" isn¦t it ?
Me in Ywev¦s Position I would have Podkilled the GM same as he did - although i¦m not a Moo-Luver)
How could Ywev know the difference ? The GM could have been on a roleplaying event again and as soon as being in optimal range open fire on Ywev ..... (as has been done by GM¦s before)
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Quantum Gopher
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Quantum Gopher on 18/08/2003 14:09:02
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Edited by: slacker on 18/08/2003 13:55:18
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They are there to do a job, not play the game. If you interfere with them, you risk repercussions. In short, don't attack them. It
It was only 3 weeks ago that a couple of GMs warped into a blockade and if I remember correctly PvP'd a BS.
You can't have it both ways.
I believe they were there to serve as a game function...that being serving as security forces. They weren't there as GMs but as Concord Special Forces...and hence attackable (as if anyone actually had a chance against them in those ships at the time  ) since they were role playing those forces. It's a different situation.
Logging on with a GM in their title is an indication they are there in an official capacity and not role playing.
Edit: Bad...bad grammar. Bad spelling too. Bad Gopher.
Q. Gopher
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slacker
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:09:00 -
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Some clarification needs to be made.
1) When GMs are in a killing / role playing or moderating capacity.
2) Stop non GMs from apparently being able to call a charater "GM Name"
3) If GMs are moderating - they use invincible ships.
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Quantum Gopher
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:29:00 -
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I don't think ANY player should be able to create a name with GM as the first two letters.
I think any player that isn't a GM that has GM in the front of their name should be banned as they are obviously trying to impersonate a Game Master.
I've seen a corporation with the ticker name of GM, but that's a different story as it's not permanent part of the character's name.
Q. Gopher
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 18/08/2003 14:43:06
I love it when people go over the top when they react to silly stuff. Quitting your own fun because a GM says something "rude"? That's like saying "This new BMW commercial is so offensive, I'm going to the nearest cliff and push my Z3 over the edge out of spite".
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Klydor
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:48:00 -
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Call me stupid but why arn't GM ships just made invulnerable? Give them 1 billion armour, sheild and hull points. Make them indestructable.
Every mud I've ever played on that had in game GM's to help out newbies all had immortal characters.
This allows the GM to sort problems safely. It also means that GM's would not be attacked as the outcome would be very one sided.
Why not do that rather than tell players not to attack an in game ship??
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:55:00 -
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Yes, i remember the bships they sent in after us, they pod'd a member of m0o. Oh, but now, we can't shoot them, does this sound like double standards? I think so.
Link to private GM conversation removed, c.f. Forum Rule #7. -- Mandos
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Tigersbane
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Posted - 2003.08.18 14:56:00 -
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I gotta say that before this incident there were no official announcements about GMs not being "fair game"
I seem to remember a m0o had GM Ravenwing's corpse and no one ever said "oi you cant do that"
Seems line one rule for one group and another for everyone else
The playing field keeps changing as do the rules for the game.
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:01:00 -
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Jesus, they are turning this game into a joke...
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:04:00 -
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Link to private GM conversation removed, c.f. Forum Rule #7. -- Mandos
seems my post get deleted right away, there is the storry unedited
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Turrak
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:05:00 -
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Link to private GM conversation removed, c.f. Forum Rule #7. -- Mandos
seems my post get deleted right away, there is the storry unedited
Ore Inspection Team 1
Surveyor of fine ores.
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Jojin
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:06:00 -
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GMs shouldnÆt been seen at all by the general public; a true godlike state. I cannot think of many situations where they are involved which would require a physical presence in the game.
It makes it hard for players, who want to live the fantasy and to enjoy the game to see individuals named GM xxxx flying around in ships. Knowing the whole time these arenÆt players and there are special people who you cannot attack and have super powers. It would be like driving along and seeing Supreme Being fly by you in a Ferrari, with a bumper sticker saying, ôItÆs hip to be almighty.ö Most people just couldnÆt cope and chaos would ensue.
GMs, if required to interact within the game, should use alter egos so the general population is oblivious to their presence.
Yeah, I know it is just a game, but half of the fun is to be able to get away.
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:06:00 -
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GM's have earlier demonstrated how they are "in-game" and therefore should be considered fair game to anyone up for the hunt.
However the GM's sticky have changed this, but as Ywev podded the GM before this was posted, I think he's entitled to have the corpse back, a little gift for his wasted time in polaris + a personal apology from the GM's.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:07:00 -
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Link to private GM conversation removed, c.f. Forum Rule #7. -- Mandos
the link
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:08:00 -
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Quote:
seems my post get deleted right away, there is the storry unedited
Hahaha, we have your alt now :)
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.08.18 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Luc Boye on 18/08/2003 15:10:58
Edited by: Luc Boye on 18/08/2003 15:10:27
This is all funny, looks to me like there is 2 major groups of players in Eve:
1.) People (myself included) that grew up on starcraft, warcraft, quake or any other game where PvP was the point of the game. Mining, trading, gatecamping, convoyraiding, farming, etc. are just means to obtaing the gear for PvP, exploration or whatever.
2.) People that grew up on SIMS and are now happy that their Ken and Barbie can fly spaceships. They just wanna warp all day and pop some roids. They hate those nasty people firing at them.
When I read the description on the box I thought the game was made for the 1st group, since Sims Online was well and alive
Too bad GM's are becoming Ken and Barbies themselves.
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